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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1201 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:06 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Honestly dudes like JMAC, Big J and “Kemba” are the worst because they literally live off cherry picking, recency and confirmation bias. They specialize in lap taking but they never come back years later to have to defend picks they got wrong. There’s no long term accounting or accountability. Just perceived short term self congratulating. It’s truly tacky. Ugh, why even bother.


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Lol at attacking posters because they disagree with you.



It's not just about disagreeing. It's about your messed up process, lap taking, cherry picking, and just all around **** attitude towards all this.


Got it, so again you disagree because you are right and we are wrong. You don't like our process and your way is the right way. So therefore it makes it okay to attack posters and name call. These are the actions of a 15 year old, not a grown adult.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1202 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:10 pm

In real news, Scoot looked better last night. Wish it wasn't mostly against the Jazz 3rd stringers down by 30, but it was a sign of positive things. I will say it again, if he plays like this more frequently then I think people will gain hope again... but up to this point he has been mostly negative hence why most people are calling it out.

He actually finished at the rim dunking the ball for the first time consistently all year. Hopefully this a trend and not just a one off game.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1203 » by Waynearchetype » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:45 pm

Trying to decide Scoots career based on 1/8th of a season, especially his first season, has always been a bit silly.

A more interesting aspect, if you want to deep dive into this, is why do highly touted prospects from G-League Ignite seem to struggle getting going in the NBA? It definitely seems like the lack of something to win for Ignite shields these kids from the pressure to excel in the NBA. Or is it a lack of playing in front of a crowd?

Jalen Green
Dyson Daniels
Jonathan Kuminga

All highly touted prospects who have looked like its taken them longer to adjust to the NBA than kids out of college or foreign leagues. It's a small sample size of course, but seems more relevant than Scoots 10 games in the NBA. Especially with Ron, Matas, and Izan all potentially going in the lottery this year. Will teams start to get wise on Ignite failing to develop these highly rated athletes?

That said, I do gotta give a hearty laugh to the folks who were saying Scoot was a subpar athlete because he didn't dunk a lot in the G-league. Even when Scoot was playing extremely bad at the start of the season you'd see him just outrun his competition, he just doesn't dunk a lot (until this last game at least).
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1204 » by Big J » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:55 pm

How is y’all flexing nuts after 2 good games any different than us doing it after 20 bad ones? I still had this kid in my lottery, so my projection is still holding up.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1205 » by Waynearchetype » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:04 pm

Big J wrote:How is y’all flexing nuts after 2 good games any different than us doing it after 20 bad ones? I still had this kid in my lottery, so my projection is still holding up.

I mean first off he hasn't played 20 games, which might explain peoples problem with some folks hyperbole on the matter.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1206 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:47 pm

JMAC3 wrote:In real news, Scoot looked better last night. Wish it wasn't mostly against the Jazz 3rd stringers down by 30, but it was a sign of positive things. I will say it again, if he plays like this more frequently then I think people will gain hope again... but up to this point he has been mostly negative hence why most people are calling it out.

He actually finished at the rim dunking the ball for the first time consistently all year. Hopefully this a trend and not just a one off game.


You're just so bad at this.

"Uh well I guess I could change my mind that he's a bust because, uh, duh, he, uh, played some more games and, uh, well, you know, I guess 10 games, uh, maybe that wasn't enough to declare him a bust" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1207 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:48 pm

Big J wrote:How is y’all flexing nuts after 2 good games any different than us doing it after 20 bad ones? I still had this kid in my lottery, so my projection is still holding up.


LMAOOOOOOOOOO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1208 » by eminence » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:55 pm

Waynearchetype wrote:Trying to decide Scoots career based on 1/8th of a season, especially his first season, has always been a bit silly.

A more interesting aspect, if you want to deep dive into this, is why do highly touted prospects from G-League Ignite seem to struggle getting going in the NBA? It definitely seems like the lack of something to win for Ignite shields these kids from the pressure to excel in the NBA. Or is it a lack of playing in front of a crowd?

Jalen Green
Dyson Daniels
Jonathan Kuminga

All highly touted prospects who have looked like its taken them longer to adjust to the NBA than kids out of college or foreign leagues. It's a small sample size of course, but seems more relevant than Scoots 10 games in the NBA. Especially with Ron, Matas, and Izan all potentially going in the lottery this year. Will teams start to get wise on Ignite failing to develop these highly rated athletes?

That said, I do gotta give a hearty laugh to the folks who were saying Scoot was a subpar athlete because he didn't dunk a lot in the G-league. Even when Scoot was playing extremely bad at the start of the season you'd see him just outrun his competition, he just doesn't dunk a lot (until this last game at least).


Is that notably worse than the college rate?

The Ignite haven't had somebody come in hot yet, but none of those guys seem way behind expectations - all likely still lotto guys in current re-drafts.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1209 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:14 am

Waynearchetype wrote:Trying to decide Scoots career based on 1/8th of a season, especially his first season, has always been a bit silly.

A more interesting aspect, if you want to deep dive into this, is why do highly touted prospects from G-League Ignite seem to struggle getting going in the NBA? It definitely seems like the lack of something to win for Ignite shields these kids from the pressure to excel in the NBA. Or is it a lack of playing in front of a crowd?

Jalen Green
Dyson Daniels
Jonathan Kuminga

All highly touted prospects who have looked like its taken them longer to adjust to the NBA than kids out of college or foreign leagues. It's a small sample size of course, but seems more relevant than Scoots 10 games in the NBA. Especially with Ron, Matas, and Izan all potentially going in the lottery this year. Will teams start to get wise on Ignite failing to develop these highly rated athletes?

That said, I do gotta give a hearty laugh to the folks who were saying Scoot was a subpar athlete because he didn't dunk a lot in the G-league. Even when Scoot was playing extremely bad at the start of the season you'd see him just outrun his competition, he just doesn't dunk a lot (until this last game at least).


Green was taken #2. His game hasn't improved at all. Why are we blaming Ignite and not just accepting that he was overrated? Mobley was taken a pick after him after going to USC. He hasn't developed at all either. Why isn't his decision to go to college being blamed for it? Like with Green, I think he was just overrated as a prospect. In both their cases, their physical profile and athleticism gave them both high floor and high ceilings. Not every player reaches their ceiling.

Scouts said Green was 6'7" but he's actually just a shade over 6'4". Since he's a poor 3 pt shooter, combined with his average height and small build for a shooting guard, it makes him a liability on defense, so combined with his lack of shooting, he's stuck at his floor. Mobley was thought to be a potential stretch 5 by scouts I guess because he shot an okay 30% from three (college line) and 70% FT? Someone who could anchor a defense, defend the perimeter and take centers out of the paint with his shooting. Well, he's kinda not any of those things. He's never blocked 2 shots a game in his three seasons, he struggles against good wings and guards on the perimeter and he can't spread the floor with his own shooting.

Both guys are still young so there's still hope but enough time has gone on with no development to sort of have to accept this is likely as good as it gets. Maybe this is proof that that supposedly strong draft class with "top of the draft type talent" (that the 2024 draft class supposedly lacks) was overrated and the scouts got it wrong?
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1210 » by Braggins » Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:41 am

per 36 stats since returning from injury (10 games)

17.3 pts ~ 4.3 reb ~ 6.2 ast
38.2% fg(17.5 fga) ~ 31.0% 3pt(6.0 3pta) ~ 68.2% ft(3.1 fta)

per36 stats last 6 games

19.7 pts ~ 4.1 reb ~ 7.6 ast
40.9% fg(19.1 fga) ~ 29.6% 3pt(5.8 3pta) ~ 78.6% ft(3.0 fta)

Also had another nice dunk last night
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1211 » by EvanZ » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:34 am

Scoot is really moving like he did before the injuries. Just glides out there. Imagine someone thinking this guy is “not athletic”.


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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1212 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:56 am

Braggins wrote:per 36 stats since returning from injury (10 games)

17.3 pts ~ 4.3 reb ~ 6.2 ast
38.2% fg(17.5 fga) ~ 31.0% 3pt(6.0 3pta) ~ 68.2% ft(3.1 fta)

per36 stats last 6 games

19.7 pts ~ 4.1 reb ~ 7.6 ast
40.9% fg(19.1 fga) ~ 29.6% 3pt(5.8 3pta) ~ 78.6% ft(3.0 fta)

Also had another nice dunk last night
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1213 » by The Sebastian Express » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:56 am

He is getting much more comfortable with his touch around the basket and with using his elite speed to his advantage. He had several nice kisses off the glass tonight and isn't just going full throttle then with a wild acrobatic move at the cup. And he's starting to get some foul calls too, instead of always getting called for fouls, so he's getting to the line a bit more on shots that might've been otherwise deemed 'wild' when not considering the bumps.
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Post#1214 » by MemphisX » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:55 am

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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1215 » by clyde21 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:15 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:He is getting much more comfortable with his touch around the basket and with using his elite speed to his advantage. He had several nice kisses off the glass tonight and isn't just going full throttle then with a wild acrobatic move at the cup. And he's starting to get some foul calls too, instead of always getting called for fouls, so he's getting to the line a bit more on shots that might've been otherwise deemed 'wild' when not considering the bumps.


you mean a 19 yr old rookie is adjusting his game and pace to the NBA? let's not get crazy here Sebass.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1216 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:06 pm

EvanZ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:In real news, Scoot looked better last night. Wish it wasn't mostly against the Jazz 3rd stringers down by 30, but it was a sign of positive things. I will say it again, if he plays like this more frequently then I think people will gain hope again... but up to this point he has been mostly negative hence why most people are calling it out.

He actually finished at the rim dunking the ball for the first time consistently all year. Hopefully this a trend and not just a one off game.


You're just so bad at this.

"Uh well I guess I could change my mind that he's a bust because, uh, duh, he, uh, played some more games and, uh, well, you know, I guess 10 games, uh, maybe that wasn't enough to declare him a bust" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If you can pull a single post of me saying he was going to be a bust before the draft or even after these first 16 games then by all means show me. I did however say that I have lowered my opinion on him after these 16 games, I know wild.

The fact is he is still shooting 37% from field, 24.5% from three with a PER of 5.8. Still 2nd to last in VORP and Winshares among all players.

So if you want to say he has turned the corner and you expect him to be awesome you can have that view. I had him 5th pre-draft and he is probably 7th or 8th for me right now.

For some reason I can't be lower on him than consensus, but not have him labeled a bust. I have to be far right or far left apparently.
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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1217 » by EvanZ » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:18 pm

The lap taker trying to walk back the laps


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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1218 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:26 pm

EvanZ wrote:The lap taker trying to walk back the laps



Literally the opposite of what I just said, but if you want to just blabber on and misquote what I am saying then I really don't feel like expending energy to do that.
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Scoot Henderson 

Post#1219 » by EvanZ » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:28 pm

Everyone knows who said what. The best you can do now is probably go back and delete some bad takes on your part. Maybe learn some lessons and next time don’t jump out ahead of the starting gun.


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Re: Scoot Henderson 

Post#1220 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:31 pm

EvanZ wrote:Everyone knows who said what. The best you can do now is probably go back and delete some bad takes on your part. Maybe learn some lessons and next time don’t jump out ahead of the starting gun.


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As I said, show me where I proclaimed he was a bust?
All your doing is putting lies in my mouth, which is pretty disrespectful.

If he ends up the 6th,7th best player from the lottery then yeah I would say that is pretty bad outcome for a guy people were saying should of went #2 no brainer. Are you saying you think he is without a doubt the 2nd or 3rd best player still from the top 10?

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