2021 NBA Draft

[Marcus]

Am I missing something on Cade Cunningham? People talk about him like a surefire star, but I feel like he could just as easily be Evan Turner? Hasn't popped off the screen to me yet. What am I not seeing?

Have you had a chance to watch him in a full game? I ask because asthetically he may very well not do a whole lot for a lot of folks. It took me watching full games to become sold on all the little things he does really well that don't necessarily translate through physical gifts.

[MotownMadness]

Cades so smooth

[Klomp]

Am I missing something on Cade Cunningham? People talk about him like a surefire star, but I feel like he could just as easily be Evan Turner? Hasn't popped off the screen to me yet. What am I not seeing?

Have you had a chance to watch him in a full game? I ask because asthetically he may very well not do a whole lot for a lot of folks. It took me watching full games to become sold on all the little things he does really well that don't necessarily translate through physical gifts.

I have not.

[Marcus]

Am I missing something on Cade Cunningham? People talk about him like a surefire star, but I feel like he could just as easily be Evan Turner? Hasn't popped off the screen to me yet. What am I not seeing?

Have you had a chance to watch him in a full game? I ask because asthetically he may very well not do a whole lot for a lot of folks. It took me watching full games to become sold on all the little things he does really well that don't necessarily translate through physical gifts.

I have not.

Yeah I was in the same boat with you off of highlights until I got a chance to watch a few games of his and really got an opportunity to watch how he controls the game, how his lack of athletic gifts get covered with his understanding of space and balance, extremely high IQ, shows up in big moments, comes across as a great teammate, and is a legit two way player despite the lack of quick twitch.

They aren't full games but Ive posted a few Cade only possessions on both sides of the ball for a few games of his in his thread. Check those and watch the little things until you get a chance to see a full game. Best thing that can be said is he simply knows how to play the game.

[clyde21]

this is actually turning into a pretty deep bigs class imo, obviously headlined by Mobley but there are some serious physical talents depending on who's in/out

[Klomp]

Have you had a chance to watch him in a full game? I ask because asthetically he may very well not do a whole lot for a lot of folks. It took me watching full games to become sold on all the little things he does really well that don't necessarily translate through physical gifts.

I have not.

Yeah I was in the same boat with you off of highlights until I got a chance to watch a few games of his and really got an opportunity to watch how he controls the game, how his lack of athletic gifts get covered with his understanding of space and balance, extremely high IQ, shows up in big moments, comes across as a great teammate, and is a legit two way player despite the lack of quick twitch.

They aren't full games but Ive posted a few Cade only possessions on both sides of the ball for a few games of his in his thread. Check those and watch the little things until you get a chance to see a full game. Best thing that can be said is he simply knows how to play the game.

So what's your comp for him?

[Marcus]

I have not.

Yeah I was in the same boat with you off of highlights until I got a chance to watch a few games of his and really got an opportunity to watch how he controls the game, how his lack of athletic gifts get covered with his understanding of space and balance, extremely high IQ, shows up in big moments, comes across as a great teammate, and is a legit two way player despite the lack of quick twitch.

They aren't full games but Ive posted a few Cade only possessions on both sides of the ball for a few games of his in his thread. Check those and watch the little things until you get a chance to see a full game. Best thing that can be said is he simply knows how to play the game.

So what's your comp for him?

Heavy combo of a lot of folks TBH. Some B. Roy, big Andre Miller, some shades of Luka, defensively it's hard to say. Very versatile, switchable, rotates well, makes the right reads.

[crows2]

Am I missing something on Cade Cunningham? People talk about him like a surefire star, but I feel like he could just as easily be Evan Turner? Hasn't popped off the screen to me yet. What am I not seeing?

Have you watched the NBA over the past 10 years? He’s the archetype of a franchise player.

[clyde21]

Greg Brown has 1 assist in 289 mins...how is that even possible? compare that to Kai Jones in the same scheme who has 10 assists over the same amount of mins.

1 assist to 30 TOs...I want to like this guy's potential but I can't get over this ratio

[EvanZ]

Greg Brown has 1 assist in 289 mins...how is that even possible? compare that to Kai Jones in the same scheme who has 10 assists over the same amount of mins.

1 assist to 30 TOs...I want to like this guy's potential but I can't get over this ratio

We can agree on this.

[No-Man]

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[LofJ]

Anyone think Kai Jones is good enough to draft right outside of the lottery?

He's still pretty skinny and therefore not the best rebounder, but after Mobley he seems like the most skilled big in this draft. Which is a pretty impressive feat for someone that started playing basketball at the age of 15.

[EvanZ]

Anyone think Kai Jones is good enough to draft right outside of the lottery?

A lot of people think this.

[retrobro90]

Anyone think Kai Jones is good enough to draft right outside of the lottery?

He's still pretty skinny and therefore not the best rebounder, but after Mobley he seems like the most skilled big in this draft. Which is a pretty impressive feat for someone that started playing basketball at the age of 15.

Is he really that skilled? I've watched a handful of Texas games and he hasn't really stuck out to me. He's a 65% ft shooter and has a negative ast/to ratio. People that love him like Vecenie seem to harp on his defense too so I'm failing to see what the major appeal is.

[clyde21]

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lol...you just got on the Giddey train yourself, and Johnson 6 is perfectly fine

[cgf]

What's wrong with having Green over Suggs?

[clyde21]

top25 updated, feel good about this at this point, G League bubble might change a few things, (Green to T1 if he can prove he's not positionally locked, Kuminga dribble game, excited to see Nix/Todd too)

Spoiler:

T1
1 Evan Mobley
2 Cade Cunningham
3 Jalen Suggs

T2
4 Jalen Green
5 Moses Moody
6 Jonathan Kuminga
7 Jalen Johnson
8 Brandon Boston Jr.
9 Franz Wagner

T3
10 Scottie Barnes
11 Ziaire Williams
12 Usman Garuba
13 Jaden Springer
14 Scottie Lewis
15 Trendon Watford
16 James Bouknight
17 Keon Johnson
18 Corey Kispert
19 Roko Prkacin
20 Trayce Jackson-Davis
21 Day'Ron Sharpe
22 Joel Ayayi
23 Yoan Makoundou
24 Josh Giddey
25 Joe Wieskamp

[cgf]

Jared Butler may not end up an allstar, but he's going to be a really good guard in the NBA.

[Karanpal]

Holi smokes Greg brown has springs

[MotownMadness]

I would be tempted to give Garza a shot in the 2nd round