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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1261 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:55 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I just have to get this off my chest, but how the hell has K become such a bad coach so quickly? Especially with late game scenarios? Down by 1 with 12 seconds to go and you have 1 timeout. College is different sos you cant just call the timeout and get to take it out at half court, but fine you run the ball past half court then call a timeout and draw up a play. Moore crossed the half court with 8 seconds to go, call the freaking timeout. But no he lets it run and Moore put up a horrible shot.

This is the RJ/Zion issue all over again. 2 times that year K didnt call timeouts to draw up a play to get Zion the ball. He just let RJ do his own thing and RJ blew both the Gonzaga game and the tournament game. You had freaking Zion Williamson in his peak athletic prime, get him the damn ball.

Paolo had 20 points on 6/11 shooting. Get the dude the damn ball! Or at minimum call the damn timeout and draw up a play and use him as a decoy or something. Just what a freaking joke.


just so incredibly frustrating. watching paolo getting completely ignored by his teammates for long stretches - and it's not as if he wasn't making himself available - while k just sat there and watched it all unfold. can't imagine how frustrating that must be for a duke fan, especially during a loss.

And his two alley oop passes down the stretch were perfect. Having a guy that tall able (and willing) to throw those passes inside is a huge competitive advantage.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1262 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:06 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:I just have to get this off my chest, but how the hell has K become such a bad coach so quickly? Especially with late game scenarios? Down by 1 with 12 seconds to go and you have 1 timeout. College is different sos you cant just call the timeout and get to take it out at half court, but fine you run the ball past half court then call a timeout and draw up a play. Moore crossed the half court with 8 seconds to go, call the freaking timeout. But no he lets it run and Moore put up a horrible shot.

This is the RJ/Zion issue all over again. 2 times that year K didnt call timeouts to draw up a play to get Zion the ball. He just let RJ do his own thing and RJ blew both the Gonzaga game and the tournament game. You had freaking Zion Williamson in his peak athletic prime, get him the damn ball.

Paolo had 20 points on 6/11 shooting. Get the dude the damn ball! Or at minimum call the damn timeout and draw up a play and use him as a decoy or something. Just what a freaking joke.


Every time Banchero had the ball, good things were happening with his scoring and playmaking. The fact that it took almost the entire second half for him to even get one shot off or even touch the ball is an indictment on K's coaching then that last possession was a big bag of WTF?


I don’t think it was a coincidence that Paolo got heavily involved in the 2nd right after Keels went down.

I really don’t know why K continues to try and push this Keels being ball handler 1b thing. He over dribbles all the time, his shot making off the dribble is horrible. And just overall just bad ball movement when the offense gets run through Keels.

Once he went down it really became a trio of Moore/Paolo/Roach running the offense and the offense really started to click. There was better ball movement, better attacking the paint and getting kicked out. Everyone was getting their hands on the ball.

We saw this in the game Scheyer coached as well. The ball was taken out of Keels hands in the 2nd half and the offense exploded.

I’m really hoping K isn’t married to this Keels being a 1b ball handler thing. Keels needs to be a 3&D guy and nothing more with this team. Less Keels and more Paolo and Roach with the ball.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1263 » by WargamesX » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:22 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:and kendall brown - not draftable in the first round at this point, imo.

has to stay another year and show he's good at playing basketball rather than just a prospect. he's the type of guy who looks good in an empty gym, but until he can show he can produce at the high major d1 level, he strikes me as a guy who would be drafted in the lottery and be out of the league in 3 years - a la Zhaire Smith.


Guys like Brown get drafted too high because of guys like Kuminga who become really good faster than most the league had predicted.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1264 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:04 am

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:and kendall brown - not draftable in the first round at this point, imo.

has to stay another year and show he's good at playing basketball rather than just a prospect. he's the type of guy who looks good in an empty gym, but until he can show he can produce at the high major d1 level, he strikes me as a guy who would be drafted in the lottery and be out of the league in 3 years - a la Zhaire Smith.


Guys like Brown get drafted too high because of guys like Kuminga who become really good faster than most the league had predicted.


there are some red flags there tho offensively for sure, FT% can't crack 70%, less than 1 3 attempt per game, multiple games of 5 points or less.

Minga is/was super raw, but minga might be one of the most aggro young players I've seen in a long time, he knows he has physical advantage against most defenders and will use it to consistently attack...you dont see that kind of aggressiveness from Brown at this point

Duke's right, with Brown's toolset he should be wreaking havoc right now, and again I am one of Brown's biggest supporters, had him top 5 virtually the entire year (look at 1st page of this thread), but he can't disappear as much as he does with his physical advantages.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1265 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:54 am

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:and kendall brown - not draftable in the first round at this point, imo.

has to stay another year and show he's good at playing basketball rather than just a prospect. he's the type of guy who looks good in an empty gym, but until he can show he can produce at the high major d1 level, he strikes me as a guy who would be drafted in the lottery and be out of the league in 3 years - a la Zhaire Smith.


Guys like Brown get drafted too high because of guys like Kuminga who become really good faster than most the league had predicted.


there are some red flags there tho offensively for sure, FT% can't crack 70%, less than 1 3 attempt per game, multiple games of 5 points or less.

Minga is/was super raw, but minga might be one of the most aggro young players I've seen in a long time, he knows he has physical advantage against most defenders and will use it to consistently attack...you dont see that kind of aggressiveness from Brown at this point

Duke's right, with Brown's toolset he should be wreaking havoc right now, and again I am one of Brown's biggest supporters, had him top 5 virtually the entire year (look at 1st page of this thread), but he can't disappear as much as he does with his physical advantages.


Ya another thing Kuminga has over Brown to go with his aggression is his strength. Kuminga even at 19 years old is strong and he knows how to use his strength.

Kuminga's combination of size/quickness/explosion is no doubt freakish. And again the kid knows he has these advantages as well and he uses them. We're not seeing Brown do anything close to that right now. Even at the NBA stage you always know Kuminga is on the court, he makes an impression. You can go long stretches watching a Baylor game and you completely forget Brown is on the court and on the team.

When I watch Brown I cant help but think to myself, I get him not having a great skillset on the offensive side. But he should be a Brandon Clarke-lite kind of impact. Garbage buckets just from his athleticism and size and steals and blocks, again because of that combination. Its not just the lack of production, its the complete disappearing in games that worry me the most about him. Again compare that to Kuminga, and you never forget that he is on the court, even against NBA competition.
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Post#1266 » by Bruin » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:52 pm

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1267 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:41 pm

"formerly" espn's #1 prospect? who has replaced him at the top? nevermind - just saw they've taken him out of the rankings.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1268 » by CptCrunch » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:13 pm

Sharpe is the 2022 RSCI #1.

Should be interesting. If he doesn't play, goes top 5 probably just based on high school ranking.

If he plays can drop, very intriguing situation he is in.

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"Sharpe averaged an outstanding 22.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 2.7 assists in 28 minutes over 12 games at the Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL)"


Shaedon was unranked in August 2020, became number 1 ranked consensus in a year. Supposed to be a pure athlete, former football linebacker, with 7' wingspan and 49 inch vertical.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1269 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:59 pm

On highlights Sharpe looks pretty freaky. That athleticism with a jumper that isnt broken and in fact looks quite good mechanically? Wow.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1270 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:04 pm

CptCrunch wrote:Sharpe is the 2022 RSCI #1.

Should be interesting. If he doesn't play, goes top 5 probably just based on high school ranking.

If he plays can drop, very intriguing situation he is in.

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"Sharpe averaged an outstanding 22.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 2.7 assists in 28 minutes over 12 games at the Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL)"


Shaedon was unranked in August 2020, became number 1 ranked consensus in a year. Supposed to be a pure athlete, former football linebacker, with 7' wingspan and 49 inch vertical.

Not going to lie, I dont buy any of this. To have a 7' wingspan when your'e 6'6 it is usually pretty easy to spot. The guy usually has super wide shoulders our just freakishly long arms. Sharpe doesnt seem to have either. I also dont buy the 49 inch vert thing either. Dont get me wrong he is a very bouncy athlete, but not some once in a decade kind of leaper. When you watch guys like LaVine, Gerald Green, Cassisus Stanley (in high school and Duke). Guys like that looked like they took off of a trampoline and their vert is 44-46 inches. I dont see Sharpe having a vert that is 3 inches better than prime Zach LaVine.

Dont get me wrong I like Sharpe, but stuff like that always gets exaggerated up until we see actual measurements. And again I like Sharpe and I like the combination of bounce and he has a nice looking jumper as well.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1271 » by Sea2003 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:08 pm

This'll be interesting. Is he confirmed to play at Kentucky this year? I think I'd take him over Davis and Ivey
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Post#1272 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:17 pm

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this is huge, Sharpe is a stud, ive been wondering why they've taken him out the rankings for next yr.
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Post#1273 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:33 pm

would've had Sharpe ranked 4th overall heading into season btw
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Post#1274 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:41 pm

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Post#1275 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:42 pm

Sea2003 wrote:This'll be interesting. Is he confirmed to play at Kentucky this year? I think I'd take him over Davis and Ivey

The plan they've been saying all year has been that Sharpe wouldnt play for Kentucky this year. His first practice with the team was just 2 weeks ago.

Im curious on what they're going to do. I can see arguments for both sides.

For playing:
The dude is a hell of a prospect and a few good games could definitely lock him in as a top 3 pick. He is that good of a prospect.

Not playing:
With very little practice, I can see him taking some time to get used to the speed of the game (doesnt get to jump in against horrible teams like he would if he was there to start the year). And a few rough games could drop him a few spots.

In all honesty I wouldnt be shocked if him coming there and not playing and bouncing this summer was agreed with both sides. Sharpe knows no matter what he was going to be a top 7-10 pick (most likely locked in for top 5). Going to UK he no doubt got to collect some solid NIL money. While for Cal and UK, recruiting is very momentum driven and to show you got the #1 prospect (haven't had that in awhile) definitely puts some momentum behind their name.
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Post#1276 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:45 pm

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I buy all of this except for the last sentence.

Like I just said in my post, I wouldnt be shocked if this was the thought process all along. This was a way for UK to build some recruiting buzz and momentum, it was also a way for Sharpe to get some solid training and good NIL money as well.

I have a very hard time seeing Sharpe bypassing the draft and staying another year. Unless the NIL money is very good and he thinks he can play himself into the #1 spot next year with a full summer of practicing at UK.
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Post#1277 » by Sea2003 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:10 pm

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Post#1278 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:24 pm

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I buy all of this except for the last sentence.

Like I just said in my post, I wouldnt be shocked if this was the thought process all along. This was a way for UK to build some recruiting buzz and momentum, it was also a way for Sharpe to get some solid training and good NIL money as well.

I have a very hard time seeing Sharpe bypassing the draft and staying another year. Unless the NIL money is very good and he thinks he can play himself into the #1 spot next year with a full summer of practicing at UK.


little upside to staying imo, he's a top 5 guy today without playing a single possession for UK. that minimal upside to being #1 next year is not worth getting that 2nd NBA contract a year earlier.
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Post#1279 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:32 pm

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I buy all of this except for the last sentence.

Like I just said in my post, I wouldnt be shocked if this was the thought process all along. This was a way for UK to build some recruiting buzz and momentum, it was also a way for Sharpe to get some solid training and good NIL money as well.

I have a very hard time seeing Sharpe bypassing the draft and staying another year. Unless the NIL money is very good and he thinks he can play himself into the #1 spot next year with a full summer of practicing at UK.


little upside to staying imo, he's a top 5 guy today without playing a single possession for UK. that minimal upside to being #1 next year is not worth getting that 2nd NBA contract a year earlier.

Agreed 100%. Again I think this makes total sense for his situation. For someone that decided to reclassify late, doing what he did he no doubt was able to cash in on some NIL money for "going" to UK. UK got the nice PR and recruitment buzz for "landing" the #1 player.

Nice little win win for both sides. Im sure this was the plan all along and he would've played for UK next year only if something went wacky with his NBA eligibility.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1280 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:15 pm

If your projected in the top 5 of the NBA draft you enter the NBA draft. Its one of the easiest decisions in the history of man.

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