2021 NBA Draft

[No-Man]

I’d love to get Jalen Johson or Scottie Barnes to the Pels.


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Why? you want them to lose?

[NO-KG-AI]

I’d love to get Jalen Johson or Scottie Barnes to the Pels.


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Why? you want them to lose?

I like them as prospects, and I feel like we need, big, athletic combo forwards in the worst way, despite our two best players being those types.

[Duke4life831]

I’d love to get Jalen Johson or Scottie Barnes to the Pels.


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Why? you want them to lose?

I like them as prospects, and I feel like we need, big, athletic combo forwards in the worst way, despite our two best players being those types.

Kispert is a guy I’d love to see the Pels draft. He’s basically just a Joe Harris clone. Draft him, plug him in at the 2 and move on.

[No-Man]

I think Kispert defensively as a 2G esp next to Ingram and Zion, would be a disaster

For where the Pels will be draft, I'd love them to grab Kai Jones, Ziaire, Keon, Moody or Bouknight, would focus on those

[Hoopz Afrik]

Jaden Springer is so good

I like him a lot. Brogdon vibes.

Don’t see him dropping outside the lottery.

I like this comp a lot

[Ruzious]

Jaden Springer is so good

I like him a lot. Brogdon vibes.

Don’t see him dropping outside the lottery.

I like this comp a lot

I think Springer's a better athlete than given credit for - though I'm not sure he has the pg skills and the length that Brogdon does.

[Ruzious]

Looking deep in the draft, I really like 2 UVA players - and neither of them is a Hauser brother. Jay Huff is already 23 and looks like a 7'1 basketball dinosaur, but there's a value in being an old prospect - there's not the long developmental time. Also, while his defense in the NBA won't be as effective as it is in UVA - especially in pnr - he will be able to defend against most teams if used right, and he's got proven 3 point range. People rated him a poor rebounder, but he's really not - Look at his per 100 possession stats, because UVA has played at a very slow pace throughout his career. Most don't have him being drafted, but he will contribute by his 2nd NBA season.

And then there's the aptly named Trey Murphy. He has just as smooth a 3 as Hauser, and he's 6'9 and also shows a good feel to cut to the hoop for baskets. He's in the Cam Johnson/Rodney Hood mold, but if he can finally add some muscle, he can be better than both. At 20, he should be able to do that - his size can be very helpful on switches. It helps that he's now coached by one of the best.

[cgf]

Jaden Springer is so good

He's really come on and is doing a better job of showing off his playmaking than earlier in the year, which had turned me off on him before he settled in...kinda like a mini-RJ with that bullyball game as a slasher, very good athleticism that gets over-shadowed by his freakier team-mate, work to do as a shooter, and playmaking potential that I didn't see initially

[cgf]

What's the consensus on Bouknight? Is he considered lottery instead of top 7 or 8 guy because of injury concerns? Because he looks like a sure thing to me in the NBA, where most of these non tier 1 guys have question marks.

He's neck & neck with Moody, right behind Ziaire Williams, Jalen Johnson & the top 5, for me. With him or Moody at the front of that tier with Barnes & the Tennessee guards, depending on when you ask me lol.

[Marcus]

What's the consensus on Bouknight? Is he considered lottery instead of top 7 or 8 guy because of injury concerns? Because he looks like a sure thing to me in the NBA, where most of these non tier 1 guys have question marks.

He's neck & neck with Moody, right behind Ziaire Williams, Jalen Johnson & the top 5, for me. With him or Moody at the front of that tier with Barnes & the Tennessee guards, depending on when you ask me lol.

That whole section is like some sort of elimination dating show. So many options. Picking whoever you feel at that second.

[cgf]

What's the consensus on Bouknight? Is he considered lottery instead of top 7 or 8 guy because of injury concerns? Because he looks like a sure thing to me in the NBA, where most of these non tier 1 guys have question marks.

He's neck & neck with Moody, right behind Ziaire Williams, Jalen Johnson & the top 5, for me. With him or Moody at the front of that tier with Barnes & the Tennessee guards, depending on when you ask me lol.

That whole section is like some sort of elimination dating show. So many options. Picking whoever you feel at that second.

I think Ziaire & JJ's realistic-ceilings are closer to the top 5 than the others..even if they have further to go to get there...but yeah, I like all of those kids & would be thrilled with any of them if we can't get into the top 5.

[No-Man]

I was low on Jalen Johnson already but he is in the do not touch territory kinda

Very out on him

[Duke4life831]

I was low on Jalen Johnson already but he is in the do not touch territory kinda

Very out on him

Hold up, you were not always low on Jalen. It was only a couple months ago you said this to me,

"Jesus man you are low on JJ, he is a top15 prospect pretty clearly and unless he **** it up off-the-court or with interviews he is def going to go lotto/top15"

[Marcus]

My guy Moses Moody is evolving his attack from primarily spot ups, curls, and pin downs. Adding the straight line left or right from the top of key finishing with the floater. His defense, iq, jumpshot, and a developing smart offensive attack changes his 3 and D archtype into something along the lines of Brogdon playing off ball.

[No-Man]

I was low on Jalen Johnson already but he is in the do not touch territory kinda

Very out on him

Hold up, you were not always low on Jalen. It was only a couple months ago you said this to me,

"Jesus man you are low on JJ, he is a top15 prospect pretty clearly and unless he **** it up off-the-court or with interviews he is def going to go lotto/top15"

I wasn't low from HS actually he was one of the guys that I thought could break in the top5 pre-season talent wise but I got low on him as time went on during the college season pretty rapidly, in my last two boards I had him late teens already, that's what I meant with the post really

Draft season moves fast haha

[retrobro90]

My guy Moses Moody is evolving his attack from primarily spot ups, curls, and pin downs. Adding the straight line left or right from the top of key finishing with the floater. His defense, iq, jumpshot, and a developing smart offensive attack changes his 3 and D archtype into something along the lines of Brogdon playing off ball.

I rewatched their OT game against Mizzou yesterday since it came on ESPNU after the Ignite game. I think he's got some post chops/face up game as well that doesn't always get featured in the Hogs offense. Also the assist numbers aren't there yet obviously but I think he's a willing passer who's going to have too much in his scoring arsenal to not leverage that into opportunities for his teammates as he continues to grow his game at the next level.

[Marcus]

My guy Moses Moody is evolving his attack from primarily spot ups, curls, and pin downs. Adding the straight line left or right from the top of key finishing with the floater. His defense, iq, jumpshot, and a developing smart offensive attack changes his 3 and D archtype into something along the lines of Brogdon playing off ball.

I rewatched their OT game against Mizzou yesterday since it came on ESPNU after the Ignite game. I think he's got some post chops/face up game as well that doesn't always get featured in the Hogs offense. Also the assist numbers aren't there yet obviously but I think he's a willing passer who's going to have too much in his scoring arsenal to not leverage that into opportunities for his teammates as he continues to grow his game at the next level.

Yeah been high on him for a few years now. Think I sold his development short a little bit just because he's such an ideal day one fit anywhere. But his continuing growth in terms of his offensive versatility opens up some additional avenues and expands his gravity on the floor. He was always gonna be someone you had to hug off ball and attach at the hip when he was on the move, but the possibility of drive and kick, drive and dump gives lineup versatility around him instead of just what he brings to lineup versatility. Very curious to see if advancements can be added to his handle. First step is solid but not sudden, however given his limbs he does well once he beats you, if he ever adds an effective hang dribble or learns to freeze the defense enough for his look he gets into different tier convos at the next level.

[retrobro90]

My guy Moses Moody is evolving his attack from primarily spot ups, curls, and pin downs. Adding the straight line left or right from the top of key finishing with the floater. His defense, iq, jumpshot, and a developing smart offensive attack changes his 3 and D archtype into something along the lines of Brogdon playing off ball.

I rewatched their OT game against Mizzou yesterday since it came on ESPNU after the Ignite game. I think he's got some post chops/face up game as well that doesn't always get featured in the Hogs offense. Also the assist numbers aren't there yet obviously but I think he's a willing passer who's going to have too much in his scoring arsenal to not leverage that into opportunities for his teammates as he continues to grow his game at the next level.

Yeah been high on him for a few years now. Think I sold his development short a little bit just because he's such an ideal day one fit anywhere. But his continuing growth in terms of his offensive versatility opens up some additional avenues and expands his gravity on the floor. He was always gonna be someone you had to hug off ball and attach at the hip when he was on the move, but the possibility of drive and kick, drive and dump gives lineup versatility around him instead of just what he brings to lineup versatility. Very curious to see if advancements can be added to his handle. First step is solid but not sudden, however given his limbs he does well once he beats you, if he ever adds an effective hang dribble or learns to freeze the defense enough for his look he gets into different tier convos at the next level.

This for sure isn't a perfect comp but given his overall efficiency and the point you make here: He kinda reminds me of Khris Middleton. Moody a couple inches shorter but the plus length/shot selection/efficiency etc makes me think of Middy. Think they could operate from very similar spots/sets and like you say be seamless fits on basically any roster.

[Marcus]

I rewatched their OT game against Mizzou yesterday since it came on ESPNU after the Ignite game. I think he's got some post chops/face up game as well that doesn't always get featured in the Hogs offense. Also the assist numbers aren't there yet obviously but I think he's a willing passer who's going to have too much in his scoring arsenal to not leverage that into opportunities for his teammates as he continues to grow his game at the next level.

Yeah been high on him for a few years now. Think I sold his development short a little bit just because he's such an ideal day one fit anywhere. But his continuing growth in terms of his offensive versatility opens up some additional avenues and expands his gravity on the floor. He was always gonna be someone you had to hug off ball and attach at the hip when he was on the move, but the possibility of drive and kick, drive and dump gives lineup versatility around him instead of just what he brings to lineup versatility. Very curious to see if advancements can be added to his handle. First step is solid but not sudden, however given his limbs he does well once he beats you, if he ever adds an effective hang dribble or learns to freeze the defense enough for his look he gets into different tier convos at the next level.

This for sure isn't a perfect comp but given his overall efficiency and the point you make here: He kinda reminds me of Khris Middleton. Moody a couple inches shorter but the plus length/shot selection/efficiency etc makes me think of Middy. Think they could operate from very similar spots/sets and like you say be seamless fits on basically any roster.

Honestly think that's pretty damn attainable. What we've watched Middleton evolve into could be the very direction Moody might be heading. He only needs just a little shake to get his space and his measurements should be able to handle it from there. If Moses can develop his short burst handle to create step space for his shot, especially out of the triple threat that comp isn't far off if off at all.

[No-Man]

If you think Middleton is attainable you should have Moody ranked like 2nd in the class almost