2022 NBA Draft Part II

[GSWFan1994]

What’s everyone eating for the draft tonight?? Baked ziti in our household

Nice one AZ... I just had "the ziti" a few weeks ago!

I had a bowl of nuggets with "molho grego", lol

[GSWFan1994]

of course ivey is crying

if you asked me which player was gonna for sure cry before the draft Ivey would've been the first dude on my mind.

How did you know that? Did you graduate on Big J's School of Corporal Language?

[Duke4life831]

Just decided to listen the first 30 minutes of The Ringer coverage of the Draft. Not saying it is top tier stuff, but damn talk about a much better way to cover the draft.

You can tell KOC and Russillo actually took the time and watch the tape of these guys. They're actually breaking down the guys pretty well. And its not dry either. These guys are actually more entertaining to listen too than the crap that was going on ESPN.

Next year ESPN should just hire The Ringer guys and let them do their own thing on ESPN2 or something. ESPN's and ABC's coverage of the draft was embarrassingly bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[BostonCouchGM]

Just decided to listen the first 30 minutes of The Ringer coverage of the Draft. Not saying it is top tier stuff, but damn talk about a much better way to cover the draft.

You can tell KOC and Russillo actually took the time and watch the tape of these guys. They're actually breaking down the guys pretty well. And its not dry either. These guys are actually more entertaining to listen too than the crap that was going on ESPN.

Next year ESPN should just hire The Ringer guys and let them do their own thing on ESPN2 or something. ESPN's and ABC's coverage of the draft was embarrassingly bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

agreed. Embarrassing stuff. Between spoiling the picks, the cringe Perkins input and lack of solid analysis it was just awful.

[Duke4life831]

Just decided to listen the first 30 minutes of The Ringer coverage of the Draft. Not saying it is top tier stuff, but damn talk about a much better way to cover the draft.

You can tell KOC and Russillo actually took the time and watch the tape of these guys. They're actually breaking down the guys pretty well. And its not dry either. These guys are actually more entertaining to listen too than the crap that was going on ESPN.

Next year ESPN should just hire The Ringer guys and let them do their own thing on ESPN2 or something. ESPN's and ABC's coverage of the draft was embarrassingly bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

agreed. Embarrassing stuff. Between spoiling the picks, the cringe Perkins input and lack of solid analysis it was just awful.

Ya they were basically in the middle of nowhere land with their broadcasts, no knowledge and not entertaining. If youre not going to try and do a more analytical broadcast and focus more on entertainment fine, but at least get entertaining people. Go to Turner and see how much it will cost to get the Inside the NBA crew for the night. Listening to Perk try and talk for 3 hours was painful to watch because he isnt entertaining and has no knowledge on the subject.

Or ya find 2-3 guys that actually know what theyre talking about and try and have a broadcast where guys are actually breaking down the guys. Give someone for Bilas to have a little back and forth with. He gets a minute or so to talk about a player and its like he's talking to a brick wall because he is talking to Perk.

Again listening to The Ringer guys right now. Its clear Kevin O'Connor and Ryen Russillo have spent the time to watch the tape on these guys. They're giving solid breakdowns on what theyve seen and its actually nice to hear them kind of go back and forth on how they view guys differently. And Bill Simmons is kind of playing the role of asking these two guys about the players. And the thing is, so far this broadcast has had far more knowledge 6 picks into the draft than the ESPN crew had the entire night, plus these guys are more entertaining to listen to as well.

[Sea2003]

Happy with the way our draft went. I think Detroit won this. Congrats to you piston fans

[tundraknight]

of course ivey is crying

if you asked me which player was gonna for sure cry before the draft Ivey would've been the first dude on my mind.

I understand getting emotional when your dream comes true, but he literally never stopped crying the entire night since he got drafted.

[The Moose]

Just decided to listen the first 30 minutes of The Ringer coverage of the Draft. Not saying it is top tier stuff, but damn talk about a much better way to cover the draft.

You can tell KOC and Russillo actually took the time and watch the tape of these guys. They're actually breaking down the guys pretty well. And its not dry either. These guys are actually more entertaining to listen too than the crap that was going on ESPN.

Next year ESPN should just hire The Ringer guys and let them do their own thing on ESPN2 or something. ESPN's and ABC's coverage of the draft was embarrassingly bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

agreed. Embarrassing stuff. Between spoiling the picks, the cringe Perkins input and lack of solid analysis it was just awful.

Ya they were basically in the middle of nowhere land with their broadcasts, no knowledge and not entertaining. If youre not going to try and do a more analytical broadcast and focus more on entertainment fine, but at least get entertaining people. Go to Turner and see how much it will cost to get the Inside the NBA crew for the night. Listening to Perk try and talk for 3 hours was painful to watch because he isnt entertaining and has no knowledge on the subject.

Or ya find 2-3 guys that actually know what theyre talking about and try and have a broadcast where guys are actually breaking down the guys. Give someone for Bilas to have a little back and forth with. He gets a minute or so to talk about a player and its like he's talking to a brick wall because he is talking to Perk.

Again listening to The Ringer guys right now. Its clear Kevin O'Connor and Ryen Russillo have spent the time to watch the tape on these guys. They're giving solid breakdowns on what theyve seen and its actually nice to hear them kind of go back and forth on how they view guys differently. And Bill Simmons is kind of playing the role of asking these two guys about the players. And the thing is, so far this broadcast has had far more knowledge 6 picks into the draft than the ESPN crew had the entire night, plus these guys are more entertaining to listen to as well.

It was definitely missing Schmitz this year. Not sure why Givony doesn't do it but I guess maybe he's just not a TV guy

[Duke4life831]

agreed. Embarrassing stuff. Between spoiling the picks, the cringe Perkins input and lack of solid analysis it was just awful.

Ya they were basically in the middle of nowhere land with their broadcasts, no knowledge and not entertaining. If youre not going to try and do a more analytical broadcast and focus more on entertainment fine, but at least get entertaining people. Go to Turner and see how much it will cost to get the Inside the NBA crew for the night. Listening to Perk try and talk for 3 hours was painful to watch because he isnt entertaining and has no knowledge on the subject.

Or ya find 2-3 guys that actually know what theyre talking about and try and have a broadcast where guys are actually breaking down the guys. Give someone for Bilas to have a little back and forth with. He gets a minute or so to talk about a player and its like he's talking to a brick wall because he is talking to Perk.

Again listening to The Ringer guys right now. Its clear Kevin O'Connor and Ryen Russillo have spent the time to watch the tape on these guys. They're giving solid breakdowns on what theyve seen and its actually nice to hear them kind of go back and forth on how they view guys differently. And Bill Simmons is kind of playing the role of asking these two guys about the players. And the thing is, so far this broadcast has had far more knowledge 6 picks into the draft than the ESPN crew had the entire night, plus these guys are more entertaining to listen to as well.

It was definitely missing Schmitz this year. Not sure why Givony doesn't do it but I guess maybe he's just not a TV guy

I remember them trying Givony like the first year they brought in the Draftexpress group. Ya Givony clearly not a TV guy haha. There was a reason Schmitz became the go to TV guy from that group.

[The Moose]

Ya they were basically in the middle of nowhere land with their broadcasts, no knowledge and not entertaining. If youre not going to try and do a more analytical broadcast and focus more on entertainment fine, but at least get entertaining people. Go to Turner and see how much it will cost to get the Inside the NBA crew for the night. Listening to Perk try and talk for 3 hours was painful to watch because he isnt entertaining and has no knowledge on the subject.

Or ya find 2-3 guys that actually know what theyre talking about and try and have a broadcast where guys are actually breaking down the guys. Give someone for Bilas to have a little back and forth with. He gets a minute or so to talk about a player and its like he's talking to a brick wall because he is talking to Perk.

Again listening to The Ringer guys right now. Its clear Kevin O'Connor and Ryen Russillo have spent the time to watch the tape on these guys. They're giving solid breakdowns on what theyve seen and its actually nice to hear them kind of go back and forth on how they view guys differently. And Bill Simmons is kind of playing the role of asking these two guys about the players. And the thing is, so far this broadcast has had far more knowledge 6 picks into the draft than the ESPN crew had the entire night, plus these guys are more entertaining to listen to as well.

It was definitely missing Schmitz this year. Not sure why Givony doesn't do it but I guess maybe he's just not a TV guy

I remember them trying Givony like the first year they brought in the Draftexpress group. Ya Givony clearly not a TV guy haha. There was a reason Schmitz became the go to TV guy from that group.

I knew it was going to be a disaster as soon as I saw the panel too, Perkins really has no business being there.

They definitely need to find some actual draft analysts for their coverage

[The Moose]

Spoiler:

final update pre-lotto

Tier 1 - All-NBA potential
1. Paolo Banchero (firm on Banchero being the no.1 guy)

2a. Jabari Smith
2b. Chet Holmgren

Tier 2
4. Shaedon Sharpe
5. Tari Eason
6. Dyson Daniels
7. Jaden Ivey

Tier 3
8. Keegan Murray
9. Jeremy Sochan
10. Jalen Duren
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. AJ Griffin

Tier 4- rotation pieces

Johnny Davis
Kendall Brown
Tyty Washington
Mark Williams
Patrick Baldwin
Jaden Hardy
Jake Laravia
Wendell Moore

Second Round targets
Max Christie
David Roddy
Josh Minott
Caleb Houstan
Jalen Slawson
Vince Williams
Keon Ellis
Dalen Terry


Tier 4+ 2nd round targets are not ordered

Week before draft update

Tier 1
1. Paolo Banchero (still firm on Banchero being the no.1 guy)

2. Chet Holmgren
3a. Jabari Smith
3b. Jaden Ivey


Tier 2
5. Dyson Daniels
6. Jalen Duren
7. Tari Eason
8. Keegan Murray
9. Shaedon Sharpe

Tier 3
10. Jeremy Sochan
11. Bennedict Mathurin
12. AJ Griffin

Tier 4- rotation pieces

Johnny Davis
Kendall Brown
Malaki Branham
Mark Williams
Patrick Baldwin
Jaden Hardy
Jake Laravia
Wendell Moore
Dalen Terry

Second Round targets
Max Christie
David Roddy
Josh Minott
Caleb Houstan
Jalen Slawson
Vince Williams
Keon Ellis


Tier 4+ 2nd round targets are not ordered

Paolo still number 1 for me, biggest riser continued to be Duren. Sharpe dropped, but I find it pretty difficult to put him anywhere with confidence. He could easily outperform this ranking

Detroit ended up with 2 guys from my top 6, pretty stoked with how the draft went

[Big J]

Just decided to listen the first 30 minutes of The Ringer coverage of the Draft. Not saying it is top tier stuff, but damn talk about a much better way to cover the draft.

You can tell KOC and Russillo actually took the time and watch the tape of these guys. They're actually breaking down the guys pretty well. And its not dry either. These guys are actually more entertaining to listen too than the crap that was going on ESPN.

Next year ESPN should just hire The Ringer guys and let them do their own thing on ESPN2 or something. ESPN's and ABC's coverage of the draft was embarrassingly bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

ESPN is never hiring the Ringer to do the draft. There’s too much bad blood between those two.

[The-Power]

Detroit ended up with 2 guys from my top 6, pretty stoked with how the draft went

Congrats! It's how I felt last year for the Warriors with Moody and Kuminga, which was essentially the same situation as it is for you. Cherish the feeling, it's great!

I'm not such a believer in Duren (we'll see if there's something he hasn't really shown in college) but he's a fine fit. But more importantly, I LOVE the Cade-Ivey fit. That's going to be an incredible combo to build your team around. They are both super talented, complement each other very well and you can throw out a lot of different line-ups with them.

[The-Power]

Happy with the way our draft went. I think Detroit won this. Congrats to you piston fans

Congrats to you guys! You come out of this draft with a lot of talented players.

I wrote it elsewhere already: this is now a team with plus positional passing in a lot of spots. SGA, Giddey, Chet, Dieng, Williams and even Poku if he's still a factor – all of them are either good passers period or plus passers for their position. It's going to be interesting to see how it works out. It can unlock beautiful basketball if everyone is on the same page, or it can lead to struggles because too many players want and/or need the ball in their hands.

[The-Power]

They mentioned something about a buy out. I was unaware of this. Think he's coming over next season so I don't think it is a stash.

He is likely staying with the Warriors. They were trying to move the pick before, but Barbosa is with the organization so I think they kept it.

GM Bob Myers mentioned that they'll decide about whether to have him come over next season or not. My guess would be ‘no’ with the way Myers talked about Rollins compared to Santos. But we'll see, I suppose. It sure sounded like some people in the FO pushed for him but not everyone has had a chance to make up their mind with him.

[Big J]

Watch their teammates body language around them.

lmao

This guy is something else, no?

[jman3134]

They mentioned something about a buy out. I was unaware of this. Think he's coming over next season so I don't think it is a stash.

He is likely staying with the Warriors. They were trying to move the pick before, but Barbosa is with the organization so I think they kept it.

GM Bob Myers mentioned that they'll decide about whether to have him come over next season or not. My guess would be ‘no’ with the way Myers talked about Rollins compared to Santos. But we'll see, I suppose. It sure sounded like some people in the FO pushed for him but not everyone has had a chance to make up their mind with him.

The Barbosa connection. Both are excellent players. If I am the Warriors, I at least let summer league playout before making roster decisions like this.

100% because he couldn't participate at the combine with his season going on. Rollins is phenomenal too. If what you are saying is correct, they lucked into the Santos pick.

Santos/Rollins is an A+ draft to me.

[7r5ur]

Detroit ended up with 2 guys from my top 6, pretty stoked with how the draft went

Congrats! It's how I felt last year for the Warriors with Moody and Kuminga, which was essentially the same situation as it is for you. Cherish the feeling, it's great!

I'm not such a believer in Duren (we'll see if there's something he hasn't really shown in college) but he's a fine fit. But more importantly, I LOVE the Cade-Ivey fit. That's going to be an incredible combo to build your team around. They are both super talented, complement each other very well and you can throw out a lot of different line-ups with them.

I think that watching Cade become totally unleashed at the end of the year simply by adding a rim runner in Marvin Bagley makes Duren an absolutely perfect fit. You get an ideal roll-man for Cade who can feast off of his passes that isn't unplayable defensively (like Bags is). Those tiny flashes of a face-up jumper and passing skills at 18 years old give him an upside beyond simply a rim runner too.

[Sea2003]

Happy with the way our draft went. I think Detroit won this. Congrats to you piston fans

Congrats to you guys! You come out of this draft with a lot of talented players.

I wrote it elsewhere already: this is now a team with plus positional passing in a lot of spots. SGA, Giddey, Chet, Dieng, Williams and even Poku if he's still a factor – all of them are either good passers period or plus passers for their position. It's going to be interesting to see how it works out. It can unlock beautiful basketball if everyone is on the same page, or it can lead to struggles because too many players want and/or need the ball in their hands.

Thanks! A lot more good passers with this tenture compared to the old thunder with kd and russ. I am a bit concerned with how they'll divvy up the on ball reps but I believe Williams, mann, & dieng can all be great off ball players. The addition of Dieng just confirms to me this new archetype they love which is: Oversized creators who can pass, defend, and shoot(in theory). Hopefully one of Dieng, Poku, or Giddey turn out to be all stars.

[K_chile22]

As a rockets fan I've been especially focusing on Jabari and Tari film and the difference in how they move away from actions is jarring lol

Tari will stand upright and just walk around on both ends when he gets away from the ball while Jabari literally does not do that for a single second, seems like an easier fix for Tari but it's kind of a crazy contrast for two high level defenders