Jabari Parker will be the best player in the 2014 Draft

[Ruzious]

I don't mean to 1 up anyone, but I'm a Bucks fan who also remembers Big Dog at Purdue, and he was a PF there - playing a very different style than he developed in the NBA. Parker and Robinson's sizes and lengths and physical abilities are actually pretty similar at the same stage. Robinson was a legitimately great college player. And in the NBA, he had an absolute classic playoff series matchup against young superstar Tracy McGrady. Dog gave it everything he had - as did McGrady. Unfortunately, McGrady's side won - with a little help from Darrell Armstrong. I felt like after that disappointment, Robinson slacked off a bit in his career and didn't give 100% - leaving his legacy less than it probably could and should have been.

What is it like living in the dark alternate timeline where Tmac led a playoff series win? Is Lebron playing in New York instead of Miami?

Yeah...what's up with that? Surprised this post didn't have more and1s.

Probably because people either realized it was an honest mistake and didn't feel the need to make a big deal about nothing, or they didn't give a flying f or didn't know. Bucks won despite McGrady averaging 34 points, 8 assist, and 6.5 rebounds a game.

[MrBigShot]

^Nothing wrong with that, I've made quite a few mistakes in recollection of games/events on here as well. I just thought it was a bit funny how vividly you described it.

[Focus]

^Nothing wrong with that, I've made quite a few mistakes in recollection of games/events on here as well. I just thought it was a bit funny how vividly you described it.

Yeah seriously... the dude described it with so much color and flair, as if he had court side seats for the whole series and the experience was ingrained in his brain. I totally didn't even catch on until the other guy pointed out.

nothing wrong with it, but pretty jokes.

[korverd26]

People have been calling Parker the "safe pick" but i still don't think he is that safe, especially with the turn out of Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams. Another think about Parker is that he is strictly a SF in the NBA, so unlike Wiggins, he cannot play that SG/SF, and fall back on his defense if his offense is not working

Floor - Michael Beasley (or Derrick Williams)

Middle - Luol Deng (or prime Hedo Turkoglu)

Ceiling - Kevin Durant (or Carmelo)

[LloydFree]

People have been calling Parker the "safe pick" but i still don't think he is that safe, especially with the turn out of Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams. Another think about Parker is that he is strictly a SF in the NBA, so unlike Wiggins, he cannot play that SG/SF, and fall back on his defense if his offense is not working

Floor - Michael Beasley (or Derrick Williams)

Middle - Luol Deng (or prime Hedo Turkoglu)

Ceiling - Kevin Durant (or Carmelo)

Hedo Turkoglu is a reasonable outcome for Jabari Parker, but I don't see any similarities to the other players mentioned.

I'd say:

Worst case: Charlie Villenueva

Low side: Al Harrington

Most likely: Glen 'Big Dog' Robinson

Ceiling: Carmelo Anthony

[No-Man]

Most likely is 6'8 Paul Pierce
ceiling is black Larry Bird

you are underrating Parker badly.

[LloydFree]

Pierce didn't play anything like Parker when he was at Kansas, he was a slasher, played a different position, was a different size and was a better athlete than Parker at that age. The only similarity to Paul Pierce, is a body with no definition.

It's hard to compare anybody to Larry Bird, because he was so unique. I didn't see Bird play in college, so I would hesitate to use him as a comparison. As a pro, the closest thing I see to Larry Bird is Kevin Love(if he had an automatic 3 pointer and played harder). Larry Bird couldn't guard anybody, but he gave enough effort to harass his opponent. Parker can't guard anybody inside or outside, does not give effort on defense, and doesn't move as well as Larry Bird, IMO.

[ManualRam]

People have been calling Parker the "safe pick" but i still don't think he is that safe, especially with the turn out of Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams. Another think about Parker is that he is strictly a SF in the NBA, so unlike Wiggins, he cannot play that SG/SF, and fall back on his defense if his offense is not working

Floor - Michael Beasley (or Derrick Williams)

Middle - Luol Deng (or prime Hedo Turkoglu)

Ceiling - Kevin Durant (or Carmelo)

Hedo Turkoglu is a reasonable outcome for Jabari Parker, but I don't see any similarities to the other players mentioned.

I'd say:

Worst case: Charlie Villenueva

Low side: Al Harrington

Most likely: Glen 'Big Dog' Robinson

Ceiling: Carmelo Anthony

when big dog and melo put the ball on the deck they have 1 of 2 focuses: the ball or the rim. robinson would literally look at the ball on some of his forays.
jabari doesn't play with blinders on. his floor game is nice which is what separates him from all of your comparisons.

[LloydFree]

People have been calling Parker the "safe pick" but i still don't think he is that safe, especially with the turn out of Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams. Another think about Parker is that he is strictly a SF in the NBA, so unlike Wiggins, he cannot play that SG/SF, and fall back on his defense if his offense is not working

Floor - Michael Beasley (or Derrick Williams)

Middle - Luol Deng (or prime Hedo Turkoglu)

Ceiling - Kevin Durant (or Carmelo)

Hedo Turkoglu is a reasonable outcome for Jabari Parker, but I don't see any similarities to the other players mentioned.

I'd say:

Worst case: Charlie Villenueva

Low side: Al Harrington

Most likely: Glen 'Big Dog' Robinson

Ceiling: Carmelo Anthony

when big dog and melo put the ball on the deck they have 1 of 2 focuses: the ball or the rim. robinson would literally look at the ball on some of his forays.
jabari doesn't play with blinders on. his floor game is nice which is what separates him from all of your comparisons.

While some of what you say is true, Parker having a better floor game than Carmelo is mitigated by Not having anywhere near the quickness or explosiveness if Carmelo Anthony.

[ManualRam]

Hedo Turkoglu is a reasonable outcome for Jabari Parker, but I don't see any similarities to the other players mentioned.

I'd say:

Worst case: Charlie Villenueva

Low side: Al Harrington

Most likely: Glen 'Big Dog' Robinson

Ceiling: Carmelo Anthony

when big dog and melo put the ball on the deck they have 1 of 2 focuses: the ball or the rim. robinson would literally look at the ball on some of his forays.
jabari doesn't play with blinders on. his floor game is nice which is what separates him from all of your comparisons.

While some of what you say is true, Parker having a better floor game than Carmelo is mitigated by Not having anywhere near the quickness or explosiveness if Carmelo Anthony.

are you saying there's some sort of correlation b/t jabari's quickness and his floor game?

[LloydFree]

when big dog and melo put the ball on the deck they have 1 of 2 focuses: the ball or the rim. robinson would literally look at the ball on some of his forays.
jabari doesn't play with blinders on. his floor game is nice which is what separates him from all of your comparisons.

While some of what you say is true, Parker having a better floor game than Carmelo is mitigated by Not having anywhere near the quickness or explosiveness if Carmelo Anthony.

are you saying there's some sort of correlation b/t jabari's quickness and his floor game?

No. I'm saying Jabari Parker is a lesser NBA prospect than Carmelo Anthony, because of Parker's lack of quickness and explosiveness. Irregardless of his superior floor game.

Edit: let me rephrase that. His Superior floor game is not enough to compensate for the difference in quickness or explosiveness.

[ManualRam]

his quickness may not allow him to be quite the pure 1 on 1 scorer that melo is, but having a better floor game could still lead to him being a better player. he doesn't see the game like melo does, which i think is a good thing for the team that drafts him.

[EricAnderson]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

[LloydFree]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

[lilojmayo]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Its ashame that just because Melo is Ball Stopper and the Knicks are terrible..... that they forget just how good Melo is . Easily a Top 10 player


Its like people throw anyway the fact that he lead the entire NBA in scoring last year. and is averaging 26/9 this year. Good luck trying to top that Jabari Parker

[ManualRam]

Hes not the ball stopper Melo is

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Its ashame that just because Melo is Ball Stopper and the Knicks are terrible..... that they forget just how good Melo is . Easily a Top 10 player


Its like people throw anyway the fact that he lead the entire NBA in scoring last year. and is averaging 26/9 this year. Good luck trying to top that Jabari Parker

scoring was never the issue with melo. he's an awesome scorer. he can rebound too, but the rest of his game leaves a lot to be desired.
jabari shouldn't try to be another melo. he doesn't have to match that line to be considered a better player. he should strive to be a better teammate and a smarter, all-around player. he has the intangibles to possibly become that.

[Mik317]

Melo can do all the things people hate on him for not doing. He can play defense, he can pass, he can rebound....he just doesn't because #YOLO.

The answer question of if Parker can play defense may be "no, he cannot".

It will be super interesting to see how he translates to the next level. Will all of his shifty crafty moves actually translate? People like to point to Paul Pierce as an example, but Pierce was a pretty damn good athlete at one time...

[lilojmayo]

It's funny. When Carmelo was leading Syracuse to the NCAA title as a Freshman, he wasn't talked about in such a disdainful way.

Point is: Player's games transfer to the pros differently based on their athleticism. The way Parker plays now, could be totally different when he plays against NBA athletes every game. Things he does now may get lost, as he tries to match up with quicker and stronger defenders.

Its ashame that just because Melo is Ball Stopper and the Knicks are terrible..... that they forget just how good Melo is . Easily a Top 10 player


Its like people throw anyway the fact that he lead the entire NBA in scoring last year. and is averaging 26/9 this year. Good luck trying to top that Jabari Parker

scoring was never the issue with melo. he's an awesome scorer. he can rebound too, but the rest of his game leaves a lot to be desired.
jabari shouldn't try to be another melo. he doesn't have to match that line to be considered a better player. he should strive to be a better teammate and a smarter, all-around player. he has the intangibles to possibly become that.

Come on now, he has o put serious numbers like that for Jabari Parker to be regarded as equal or better than Melo. He isn't a playmaker like a Paul Pierce or a two way player like Paul George. Parker is a scorer .... like Melo.

[ManualRam]

Its ashame that just because Melo is Ball Stopper and the Knicks are terrible..... that they forget just how good Melo is . Easily a Top 10 player


Its like people throw anyway the fact that he lead the entire NBA in scoring last year. and is averaging 26/9 this year. Good luck trying to top that Jabari Parker

scoring was never the issue with melo. he's an awesome scorer. he can rebound too, but the rest of his game leaves a lot to be desired.
jabari shouldn't try to be another melo. he doesn't have to match that line to be considered a better player. he should strive to be a better teammate and a smarter, all-around player. he has the intangibles to possibly become that.

Come on now, he has o put serious numbers like that for Jabari Parker to be regarded as equal or better than Melo. He isn't a playmaker like a Paul Pierce or a two way player like Paul George. Parker is a scorer .... like Melo.

no, he doesn't. he doesn't need to score 26+ a game. he could score 22 a game and if he has a much better floor game, is smarter, a better passer, more efficient, more economical with his touches and is just a better overall teammate in general, he could be seen as a better player. and no, he's not just a scorer.

[LloydFree]

scoring was never the issue with melo. he's an awesome scorer. he can rebound too, but the rest of his game leaves a lot to be desired.
jabari shouldn't try to be another melo. he doesn't have to match that line to be considered a better player. he should strive to be a better teammate and a smarter, all-around player. he has the intangibles to possibly become that.

Come on now, he has o put serious numbers like that for Jabari Parker to be regarded as equal or better than Melo. He isn't a playmaker like a Paul Pierce or a two way player like Paul George. Parker is a scorer .... like Melo.

no, he doesn't. he doesn't need to score 26+ a game. he could score 22 a game and if he has a much better floor game, is smarter, a better passer, more efficient, more economical with his touches and is just a better overall teammate in general, he could be seen as a better player. and no, he's not just a scorer.

You are right. He is not just a scorer. He is a bad defender too.