Biggest Sleeper for 2014 Draft?

[doordoor123]

So I was randomly going through each team's best players and I picked out players with the best stats. I also picked based on size at the position and skills at each position. I gave some leeway to players that were really good at one stat. There were a lot of scoring point guards I had to weed through, a lot of short shooting guards and a lot of small centers. I sometimes ignored turnovers. And I haven't finished every team yet. This list ignores stuff that a lot of scouts look for like athleticism and on-ball defense.


SF CJ Fair - Syracuse 6'8 (Senior)
PG Tyler Ennis - Syracuse 6'2 (Freshman)
SG Darrun Hilliard - Villanova 6'6 (Junior)
PG DeAndre Kane - Iowa State 6'4 (Senior)
SF/PF Nate Buss - Northern Iowa 6'9 (Junior)
PF Roscoe Smith - UNLV 6'8 (Junior)
SF Brandon Ashley - Arizona 6'8 (Sophmore)
PF Aaron Gordon - Arizona 6'9 (Freshman)
C Kaleb Tarczewski - Arizona 7'0 (Sophmore)
PG Delon Wright - Utah 6'5 (Junior)
SF LaQuinton Ross - Ohio State 6'8 (Junior)
C Amir Williams - Ohio State 6'11 (Junior)
G Sean Kilpatrick - Cincinnati 6'4 (Senior)
PF Cameron Bairstow - New Mexico 6'9 (Senior)
C Alex Kirk - New Mexico 7'0 (Junior)
PG Kendall Williams - New Mexico 6'4 (Senior)
G Eric Atkins - Notre Dame 6'2 (Senior)
G Jerian Grant - Notre Dame 6'5 (Senior)
SG Pat Connaughton - Notre Dame 6'5 (Junior)
SG Christian Thomas - Layola 6'5 (Junior)
PG Marcus Paige - North Carolina 6'1 (Sophmore)
PF Brice Johnson - North Carolina 6'9 (Sophmore)
SF Tristan Spurlock - UFC 6'8 (Senior)
SG Rashad Muhammad - San Jose State 6'6 (Freshman)
PF TaShawn Thomas - San Jose Sate 6'8 (Junior)
SG Joe Harris - Virginia 6'6 (Senior)
PG Keifer Sykes - Green Bay 5'11 (Junior)
PG Kareem Canty - Marshall 6'1 (Freshman)
SG D.J. Newboll - Penn State 6'4 (Junior)
PG Tim Frazier - Penn State 6'1 (Senior)
SF Karrington Ward - Eastern Michigan 6'7 (Junior)
C AJ Hammons - Purdue 7'0 (Sophmore)
PG Cedrick Lindsay - Richmond 6'1 (Senior)
PF Devin Thomas - Wake Forest 6'9 (Sophmore)
PF Jarnell Stokes - Tennessee 6'8 (Junior)
C Cameron Ridley - Texas 6'9 (Sophmore)
PF Jonathan Holmes - Texas 6'8 (Junior)
PF Anthony Lee - Temple 6'9 (Junior)
SG Dalton Pepper - Temple 6'5 (Senior)
SF Glenn Robinson III - Michigan 6'6 (Sophmore)
PF Mitch McGary - Michigan 6'10 (Sophmore)
SG Nik Stauskas - Michigan 6'6 (Sophmore)
PF Eric Mika - Brigham 6'10 (Freshman)
SG Tyler Haws - Brigham 6'5 (Junior)
G Kyle Collinsworth - Brigham 6'6 (Sophmore)
PG Chaz Williams - Massachusetts 5'9 (Senior)
SF Raphiael Putney - Massachusetts 6'9 (Senior)
SF Sampson Carter - Massachusetts 6'8 (Senior)
C Cady Lalanne - Massachusetts 6'10 (Junior)
PG Kevin Pangos - Gonzaga 6'2 (Junior)
C Przemek Karnowski - Gonzaga 7'1 (Sophmore)
PF/C Sam Dower - Gonzaga 6'9 (Senior)
C Sim Bhullar - New Mexico State 7'5 (Sophmore)
G Zach LaVine - UCLA 6'5 (Freshman)
SF Kyle Anderson - UCLA 6'9 (Sophmore)
SG Jordan Adams - UCLA 6'5 (Sophmore)
SG Jabari Brown - Missouri 6'5 (Junior)
PF Shaq Goodwin - Memphis 6'9 (Sophmore)
F Austin Nichols - Memphis 6'8 (Freshman)
PG Michael Dixon Jr. - Memphis 6'1 (Senior)
SF Nick King - Memphis 6'7 (Freshman)
SF Shawn Glover - Oral Roberts 6'7 (Senior)
G Ron Baker - Wichita State 6'3 (Sophmore)
PF Frank Kaminsky - Wisconsin 7'0 (Junior)
SF Sam Dekker - Wisconsin 6'7 (Sophmore)
SG Josh Gasser - Wisconsin 6'3 (Junior)
PF Shawn Long - Louisiana-Lafayette 6'10 (Sophmore)
PG Elfrid Payton - Louisiana-Lafayette 6'3 (Junior)
G Kasey Shepherd - Louisiana-Lafayette 6'3 (Sophmore)
PF Montrezl Harrell - Louisville 6'8 (Sophmore)
PG Russ Smith - Louisville 6'0 (Senior)
PG Chris Jones - Louisville 5'10 (Junior)
SF Perry Ellis - Kansas 6'8 (Sophmore)
SG Andrew Wiggins - Kansas 6'8 (Freshman)
PG Wayne Selden Jr. - Kansas 6'5 (Freshman)
C Joel Embiid - Kansas 7'0 (Freshman)
G Spencer Dinwiddie - Colorado 6'6 (Junior)
PF Josh Scott - Colorado 6'10 (Sophmore)
PG Andrew Harrison - Kentucky 6'6 (Freshman)
SG Aaron Harrison - Kentucky 6'6 (Freshman)
SG James Young - Kentucky 6'6 (Freshman)
PF Julius Randle - kentucky 6'9 (Freshman)
C Willie Cauley-Stein - Kentucky 7'0 (Sophmore)
C Dakari Johnson - Kentucky 7'0 (Freshman)
PF Cory Jefferson - Baylor 6'9 (Senior)
C Isaiah Austin - Baylor 7'1 (Sophmore)
PG Marcus Smart - Oklahoma State 6'4 (Sophmore)
SF Le'Bryan Nash - Oklahoma State 6'7 (Junior)
SG Markel Brown - Oklahoma State 6'3 (Senior)
G Phil Forte - Oklahoma State 5'11 (Sophmore)
PF DeAndre Daniels - Connecticut 6'9 (Junior)
PG Ryan Boatright - Connecticut 6'0 (Junior)
PG Shabazz Napier - Connecticut 6'1 (Senior)
PG Talib Zanna - Pittsburgh 6'9 (Senior)
SG/SF Lamar Patterson - Pittsburgh 6'5 (Senior)
PG Jabari Peters - Sam Houston State 6'4 (Junior)
F Ike Azotam - Quinnipiac 6'7 (Senior)
F Ousmane Drame - Quinnipiac 6'9 (Junior)
F Jerrelle Benimon - Towson 6'8 (Senior)
SF Jacob Parker - Stephen F. Austin (Junior)
SG Xavier Thames - San Diego State 6'3 (Senior)
PG Christopher Anderson - San Diego 5'7 (Junior)
SG Eron Harris - West Virginia 6'3 (Sophmore)
PG Juwan Staten - West Virginia 6'1 (Junior)
G Jarvis Summers - Ole Miss 6'3 (Junior)
SF Thomas Gipson - Kansas State 6'7 (Junior)
PG Gary Harris - Michigan State 6'4 (Sophomore)
PG Keith Appling - Michigan State 6'1 (Senior)
C Adreian Payne - Michigan State 6'10 (Senior)
PG Travis Trice - Michigan State 6'0 (Junior)
SF Evan Smotrycz - Maryland 6'8 (Junior)
SF Jake Layman - Maryland 6'8 (Sophomore)
PG Jonathan Stark - Tulane 6'0 (Freshman)
SF T.J. Warren - North Carolina State 6'8 (Sophomore)
C Jordan Vandenberg - North Carolina State 7'1 (Senior)
PG Anthony Barber - North Carolina State 6'2 (Freshman)
PG Nic Moore - SMU 5'9 (Sophomore)
C Yankick Moreira - SMU 6'11 (Junior)
PF Kourtney Roberson - Texas A&M 6'9 (Junior)
PG Trevor Releford - Alabama 6'0 (Senior)
G Olivier Hanlan - Boston College 6'4 (Sophomore)
PF Ryan Anderson - Boston College 6'9 (Junior)
SF Terran Petteway - Nebraska 6'6 (Junior)
PF Leslee Smith - Nebraska 6'8 (Junior)
PG Yogi Ferrell - Indiana 6'0 (Sophomore)
PF Noah Vonleh - Indiana 6'10 (Freshman)
SF Rodney Hood - Duke 6'8 (Sophomore)
SF Jabari Parker - Duke 6'8 (Freshman)
PG Quinn Cook - Duke 6'2 (Junior)
C Alan Williams - UCSB 6'7 (Junior)
SF Taran Brown - UCSB 6'8 (Sophomore)
SF Jarell Eddie - Virginia Tech 6'7 (Senior)
PF Aaron White - Iowa 6'9 (Junior)
PF/C Nnanna Egwu - Illinois 6'11 (Junior)
C Daniel Miller - Georgia Tech 6'11 (Senior)
PG Rod Hall - Clemson 6'1 (Junior)
SF K.J. McDaniels - Clemson 6'6 (Junior)
PG Ian Miller - Florida State 6'3 (Senior)
SF Okaro White - Florida State 6'8 (Senior)
SF Rod Odom - Vanderbilt 6'9 (Senior)
PG Langston Hall - Mercer 6'4 (Senior)
PF Daniel Coursey - Mercer 6'10 (Senior)
SF Bud Thomas - Mercer 6'6 (Senior)
SF Jakob Gollon - Mercer 6'6 (Senior)
PG Jordan Woodard - Oklahoma 6'0 (Freshman)
SG Buddy Hield - Oklahoma 6'4 (Sophomore)
SG Isaiah Cousins - Oklahoma 6'4 (Sophomore)
SG Cameron Clark - Oklahoma 6'7 (Senior)
SF Nemanja Djurisic - Georgia 6'8 (Junior)
SG Michael Frazier II - Florida 6'4 (Sophomore)
PG Scottie Wilbekin - Florida 6'2 (Senior)
PG Chad Frazier - UAB 6'4 (Junior)
SF C.J. Washington - UAB 6'8 (Junior)
SG Maurice Creek - George Washington 6'5 (Senior)
PF Isaiah Armwood - George Washington 6'9 (Senior)
SF Ethan Wragge - Creighton 6'7 (Senior)
SF Doug McDermott - Creighton 6'8 (Senior)
SG DaVonte Lacy - Washington State 6'4 (Junior)
SF Ronald Roberts Jr, - Saint Joseph's 6'8 (Senior)
SG Tre Bowman - Iona 6'5 (Senior)
G Sean Armand - Iona 6'5 (Senior)
PF David Laury - Iona 6'9 (Junior)
PG Brett Comer - FGCU 6'3 (Junior)
PF Chase Fieler - FGCU 6'8 (Senior)
C Jordan Bachynski - Arizona State 7'2 (Senior)
SG Jermaine Marshall - Arizona State 6'4 (Senior)
PG Jahii Carson - Arizona State 5'10 (Sophomore)
PF Adjehi Baru - Charleston 6'9 (Junior)
G Kellen Dunham - Butler 6'6 (Sophomore)
PF Kameron Woods - Butler 6'9 (Junior)
SF Khyle Marshall - Butler 6'6 (Senior)
PF Jordan Mickey - LSU 6'8 (Freshman)
PF Johnny O'Bryant III - LSU 6'9 (Junior)
PF Juvonte Reddic - VCU 6'9 (Senior)
SF Drew Windler - Belmont 6'9 (Senior)
PG Glenn Cosey - Eastern Kentucky 6'0 (Senior)
F Jarvis Williams - Murray State 6'8 (Junior)
PG Stephen Holt - Saint Mary's 6'4 (Senior)
SG James Walker III - Saint Mary's 6'3 (Senior)
PF Brad Waldow - Saint Mary's 6'9 (Junior)
SG Javonte Green - Radford 6'4 (Junior)
PG Frantz Massenat - Drexel 6'4 (Senior)
SG Michael Qualls - Arkansas 6'6 (Sophomore)
SG Jabari Bird - Caifornia 6'6 (Freshman)
PG Brandon Young - DePaul 6'4 (Senior)
C Tommy Hamilton - DePaul 6'10 (Freshman)
SF Cleveland Melvin - DePaul 6'8 (Senior)
PF Dwight Powell - Stanford 6'10 (Senior)
SF Josh Huestis - Stanford 6'7 (Senior)
SG Anthony Brown - Stanford 6'6 (Junior)
PF Derek Cooke Jr. - Wyoming 6'9 (Junior)
PF Willie Clayton - Charlotte 6'9 (Sophomore)
C Mike Thorne Jr. - Charlotte 6'11 (Sophomore)
PG Matt Glover - San Francisco 6'5 (Junior)
SF Cole Dickerson - San Francisco 6'7 (Senior)
PG Angelo Warner - Morehead State 6'2 (Junior)
C Chad Posthumus - Morehead State 6'11 (Senior)
C Chris Pelcher - New Hampshire 6'10 (Senior)
SF Mark Nwakamma - Hartford 6'6 (Junior)
SF Brandon Edwards - Texas-Arlington 6'6 (Senior)
PF Brandan Stith - East Carolina 6'7 (Freshman)
C Steve Zack - La Salle 6'11 (Junior)
SF Cory Dixon - New Orleans 6'7 (Senior)
SF Jalen Cannon - St. Francis 6'6 (Junior)
PG Sidney Sanders Jr. - Fairleigh Dickinson 5'11 (Senior)
PF Cedrick Williams - North Carolina-Wilmington 6'9 (Junior)
PF Devon Collier - Oregon State 6'8 (Senior)
PG Roberto Nelson - Oregon State 6'4 (Senior)
F Christian Standhardinger - Hawaii 6'8 (Senior)
F Dave Dudzinski - Holy Cross 6'9 (Senior)
PG Reggie Dillard - Presbyterian 6'4 (Freshman)
SG Jordan Downing - Presbyterian 6'5 (Junior)
SF Justin Sears - Yale 6'8 (Sophomore)
SG Nick Kellogg - Ohio 6'3 (Senior)
G Dyami Starks - Bryant University 6'2 (Junior)
PG Richard Carter - Drake 5'11 (Senior)
SG Amos Olatayo - Louisiana-Monroe 6'4 (Senior)
PG Aaron Bacote - Old Dominion 6'4 (Sophomore)

[brackdan70]

WOW

[No-Man]

anybody else think that rondae hollis-jefferson is a better freshman prospect than aaron gordon?

If Gordon is able to play the 3, he will be a RHJ kind of guy, they are similar players, but RHJ executes his role much better and is more comfortable doing it.

[doordoor123]

Only a junior, so he may not declare this year, but I think Andre Hollins from Minnesota is a possible sleeper. He's probably not going to be a full-time starter in the league, and will likely only be a 2nd rounder whenever he declares.

In the second round, teams are looking for skillsets. Someone who has one standout skill will probably be preferred over a good overall player who doesn't stand out in one area. Hollins has one NBA-ready skill: he can shoot the basketball. That immediately will get scouts interested. (Note: Shooting just 31.7% from 3 early, but shot 41.8% as a sophomore and 37.9% as a freshman.)

He's not a true point guard, and at 6'2", he's too short for SG. However, he should be able to carve out a niche as a sparkplug off the bench. Think Daniel Gibson. I think that is definitely realistic for him, and maybe more.

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My only problem with this guy is that there are 20 guys just like him. That score as many points as an under-sized shooting guard. I think he goes undrafted. Maybe late second, but I think this draft is too stacked. The only reason Pierre Jackson was taken at all last year was because it was such a thin draft.

[ManualRam]

anybody else think that rondae hollis-jefferson is a better freshman prospect than aaron gordon?

If Gordon is able to play the 3, he will be a RHJ kind of guy, they are similar players, but RHJ executes his role much better and is more comfortable doing it.

rhj is the more natural 3. he's already better defensively at the position. he's got longer arms, better lateral quickness, lower center of gravity, lower stance on d. i think he can cover just as much ground as AG given his better length. he's also a better ball-handler, better slasher and i like the form on his shot more than AG's.

[ManualRam]

i know some guys in this thread were asking about shawn long. i was able to watch the louisiana-lafayette/louisville game over the weekend and i got to see long play. he was productive scoring wise, but i can't say that i was too impressed. i think his numbers are influenced by their style of play. they're very up and down and they only play 1 big at a time. he's the beneficiary of a spread floor with shooters and payton's penetration. he scored a lot of his points off of dump offs. to his credit he does show good touch around the rim and decent hands. he looks every bit of 6'9 240 with long arms and a solid, albeit soft frame. i was not impressed by his athleticism though. he didn't look explosive at all, but he was also playing through a toe sprain which may have hindered his mobility. he had a couple of post touches, where, if he didn't turn the ball over (announcers mentioned he was TO prone), showed an ability to wheel into the lane for finishes. probably the most impressive part of his game was his ability to step out and hit college 3's. he looks very comfortable doing so. he's got a very smooth, almost guard like release. i did some background research on him and he happens to be another one of those kids who had a couple of late growth spurts in HS, maybe even growing some while in college, but in HS he was a guard so that could explain his ability to shoot from the outside.

his defense though was awful. his team as a whole doesn't play much defense, which was a bit surprising since elfrid payton is the spearhead of that team and he's a really good defender. long looked slow to react, relying on his length to try to make plays late. he got into foul trouble in the first half though so he gave up on a lot of plays, but his effort on that end was almost non-existent.
its only 1 game, and again he was playing through a toe sprain so take it for what its worth.

[No-Man]

I like TaShawn Thomas a lot, he needs to add weight to play PF in NBA, but the guy is strong, has long arms and is a rebounding machine that block shots.
Need work on his shot, but if he add 20-30lbs plus getting comfortable with his shot...

[Ruzious]

i know some guys in this thread were asking about shawn long. i was able to watch the louisiana-lafayette/louisville game over the weekend and i got to see long play. he was productive scoring wise, but i can't say that i was too impressed. i think his numbers are influenced by their style of play. they're very up and down and they only play 1 big at a time. he's the beneficiary of a spread floor with shooters and payton's penetration. he scored a lot of his points off of dump offs. to his credit he does show good touch around the rim and decent hands. he looks every bit of 6'9 240 with long arms and a solid, albeit soft frame. i was not impressed by his athleticism though. he didn't look explosive at all, but he was also playing through a toe sprain which may have hindered his mobility. he had a couple of post touches, where, if he didn't turn the ball over (announcers mentioned he was TO prone), showed an ability to wheel into the lane for finishes. probably the most impressive part of his game was his ability to step out and hit college 3's. he looks very comfortable doing so. he's got a very smooth, almost guard like release. i did some background research on him and he happens to be another one of those kids who had a couple of late growth spurts in HS, maybe even growing some while in college, but in HS he was a guard so that could explain his ability to shoot from the outside.

his defense though was awful. his team as a whole doesn't play much defense, which was a bit surprising since elfrid payton is the spearhead of that team and he's a really good defender. long looked slow to react, relying on his length to try to make plays late. he got into foul trouble in the first half though so he gave up on a lot of plays, but his effort on that end was almost non-existent.
its only 1 game, and again he was playing through a toe sprain so take it for what its worth.

Thanks for that. Sounds like Andrew Nicholson with maybe a little more range and baby fat might be a good comp.

[Ruzious]

anybody else think that rondae hollis-jefferson is a better freshman prospect than aaron gordon?

If Gordon is able to play the 3, he will be a RHJ kind of guy, they are similar players, but RHJ executes his role much better and is more comfortable doing it.

rhj is the more natural 3. he's already better defensively at the position. he's got longer arms, better lateral quickness, lower center of gravity, lower stance on d. i think he can cover just as much ground as AG given his better length. he's also a better ball-handler, better slasher and i like the form on his shot more than AG's.

The more I look at Gordon, the more I think he's just a tweener who's probably going to end up an under-sized 4 - lacking strength and not having the length I thought he had. I caught some of RHJ's game against UNLV, and he showed an impressive ability to drive and dish - but looking at his stats, he hasn't done that In other games. So, I'm thinking the best is yet to come with him - it'll be interesting to follow his progress.

[165bows]

i know some guys in this thread were asking about shawn long. i was able to watch the louisiana-lafayette/louisville game over the weekend and i got to see long play. he was productive scoring wise, but i can't say that i was too impressed. i think his numbers are influenced by their style of play. they're very up and down and they only play 1 big at a time. he's the beneficiary of a spread floor with shooters and payton's penetration. he scored a lot of his points off of dump offs. to his credit he does show good touch around the rim and decent hands. he looks every bit of 6'9 240 with long arms and a solid, albeit soft frame. i was not impressed by his athleticism though. he didn't look explosive at all, but he was also playing through a toe sprain which may have hindered his mobility. he had a couple of post touches, where, if he didn't turn the ball over (announcers mentioned he was TO prone), showed an ability to wheel into the lane for finishes. probably the most impressive part of his game was his ability to step out and hit college 3's. he looks very comfortable doing so. he's got a very smooth, almost guard like release. i did some background research on him and he happens to be another one of those kids who had a couple of late growth spurts in HS, maybe even growing some while in college, but in HS he was a guard so that could explain his ability to shoot from the outside.

his defense though was awful. his team as a whole doesn't play much defense, which was a bit surprising since elfrid payton is the spearhead of that team and he's a really good defender. long looked slow to react, relying on his length to try to make plays late. he got into foul trouble in the first half though so he gave up on a lot of plays, but his effort on that end was almost non-existent.
its only 1 game, and again he was playing through a toe sprain so take it for what its worth.

Thanks for that. Sounds like Andrew Nicholson with maybe a little more range and baby fat might be a good comp.

What's the take on UCSB's Alan Williams? Better or worse NBA career than Leon Powe?

[Bluejay]

Kyle Anderson
Delon Wright

[ManualRam]

Kyle Anderson
Delon Wright

ahhh. great name right there. i'm gonna have to catch some utah games now. i've only heard of him. haven't seen him play in college yet.
sick line so far.

for ya'll that haven't heard of him, thats dorell's little brother.

edit: figures there'd be no archived utah games on espn3

[doordoor123]

Kyle Anderson
Delon Wright

ahhh. great name right there. i'm gonna have to catch some utah games now. i've only heard of him. haven't seen him play in college yet.
sick line so far.

for ya'll that haven't heard of him, thats dorell's little brother.

edit: figures there'd be no archived utah games on espn3

I don't think I got to Utah yet, but man, this guy is a BEAST. Look at those stats. Those are MONSTER numbers. .743 FG% inside is insane. .400 is pedestrian 3PT shot right now though. Not bad at all, but he doesn't really shoot threes. Who needs to when you have a .743 FG%. 3.4 steals and 6.4 assists stick out to me. He's also 6'5 (good size for a PG). Definite sleeper.
SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2013-14 UTAH 32.5 6.5-8.8 .743 0.5-1.3 .400 2.6-3.8 .700 6.8 6.4 1.1 3.4 1.4 1.8 16.1

[ManualRam]

yeah you also missed khem birch (unlv) right off the top i see.
there are few guys you missed but i'm not trying to look at that list too long since it puts me in a trance.
you should've maybe broken it up by conferences or something....SOMETHING

[doordoor123]

yeah you also missed khem birch (unlv) right off the top i see.
there are few guys you missed but i'm not trying to look at that list too long since it puts me in a trance.
you should've maybe broken it up by conferences or something....SOMETHING

You're right. I don't know how I overlooked him. Has he been injured? I'll break it up later based on position and best PER. I'm still adding a lot more. Gunna take me about two weeks till I finish it. Also gunna update it. It's a little hard to read everything right now. When each team plays ten more games, there will be a better picture. I might shorten it to the best of the best though.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Watched a little bit of Delon Wright's highlights...dude has a little McGrady in him, which ironically enough, was Dorell Wright's comparison at one point.

I'm not sure about his jumpshot though, but he can create off the dribble, has a good handle as well.

[credezcrew24]

rhj is the more natural 3. he's already better defensively at the position. he's got longer arms, better lateral quickness, lower center of gravity, lower stance on d. i think he can cover just as much ground as AG given his better length. he's also a better ball-handler, better slasher and i like the form on his shot more than AG's.

RHJ is better at defending on the perimeter, but AG is far better in the post. RHJ's best attribute is his size and because Arizona is one of the most talented teams in the country inside with Zeus, Ashley, and AG - RHJ is a major matchup problem in college. That attribute will be largely negated in the NBA. AG is without a doubt a better ball handler and passer than RHJ. RHJ is also very one dimensional on offense. He has no 3point shot. RHJ is never the second option on the floor for the Wildcats. York AG McConnell and Johnson all handle the ball A LOT more than him. Ashley is also a better scoring option and although he doesn't RHJ's handles he is more versatile on offense. RHJ would be nothing more than a defensive specialist with a high motor in the NBA at this point. AG would be the far better NBA player as of now.

[ManualRam]

rhj is the more natural 3. he's already better defensively at the position. he's got longer arms, better lateral quickness, lower center of gravity, lower stance on d. i think he can cover just as much ground as AG given his better length. he's also a better ball-handler, better slasher and i like the form on his shot more than AG's.

RHJ is better at defending on the perimeter, but AG is far better in the post. RHJ's best attribute is his size and because Arizona is one of the most talented teams in the country inside with Zeus, Ashley, and AG - RHJ is a major matchup problem in college. That attribute will be largely negated in the NBA. AG is without a doubt a better ball handler and passer than RHJ. RHJ is also very one dimensional on offense. He has no 3point shot. RHJ is never the second option on the floor for the Wildcats. York AG McConnell and Johnson all handle the ball A LOT more than him. Ashley is also a better scoring option and although he doesn't RHJ's handles he is more versatile on offense. RHJ would be nothing more than a defensive specialist with a high motor in the NBA at this point. AG would be the far better NBA player as of now.

better in the post doing what? cuz it ain't scoring.
and i'll just disagree that AG has the better handle. he's got a high sloppy handle with predetermined moves. he also overplays his hand, trying to grab the ball off the rim and go which usually leads to nothing. he should just give the ball up and fill a lane.
ag is a good passer, so i'll give him that. rhj has actually had the better ast rate so far, but the difference is negligible (<1).
if rhj is one dimensional on offense then what is ag? no dimensional? he has no go-to anything and pretty much just gets his points on garbage buckets and transition, which rhj can do too, while also being the better slasher.
at the very least rhj would be a defensive specialist. i don't even know what ag can be. an energy guy? well rhj is that too.
i'll take rhj long-term.

[credezcrew24]

rhj is the more natural 3. he's already better defensively at the position. he's got longer arms, better lateral quickness, lower center of gravity, lower stance on d. i think he can cover just as much ground as AG given his better length. he's also a better ball-handler, better slasher and i like the form on his shot more than AG's.

RHJ is better at defending on the perimeter, but AG is far better in the post. RHJ's best attribute is his size and because Arizona is one of the most talented teams in the country inside with Zeus, Ashley, and AG - RHJ is a major matchup problem in college. That attribute will be largely negated in the NBA. AG is without a doubt a better ball handler and passer than RHJ. RHJ is also very one dimensional on offense. He has no 3point shot. RHJ is never the second option on the floor for the Wildcats. York AG McConnell and Johnson all handle the ball A LOT more than him. Ashley is also a better scoring option and although he doesn't RHJ's handles he is more versatile on offense. RHJ would be nothing more than a defensive specialist with a high motor in the NBA at this point. AG would be the far better NBA player as of now.

better in the post doing what? cuz it ain't scoring.
and i'll just disagree that AG has the better handle. he's got a high sloppy handle with predetermined moves. he also overplays his hand, trying to grab the ball off the rim and go which usually leads to nothing. he should just give the ball up and fill a lane.
ag is a good passer, so i'll give him that. rhj has actually had the better ast rate so far, but the difference is negligible (<1).
if rhj is one dimensional on offense then what is ag? no dimensional? he has no go-to anything and pretty much just gets his points on garbage buckets and transition, which rhj can do too, while also being the better slasher.
at the very least rhj would be a defensive specialist. i don't even know what ag can be. an energy guy? well rhj is that too.
i'll take rhj long-term.

RHJ is better at defending the perimeter AG is better at defending the post.
AG has the ability to put a move on while driving, RHJ only tries to power through weaker defenders.
AG has the ability to pick and pop outside the 3 point line. He can drive as well as RHJ, he is better at putbacks and in transition and he is a good spot up shooter. AG is also fantastic at backdoor cuts. AG is much tougher to defend.

Other than Zeus noone in Arizona's 7 man rotation is more reliant on garbage buckets and transition than RHJ.

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RHJ is better at defending on the perimeter, but AG is far better in the post. RHJ's best attribute is his size and because Arizona is one of the most talented teams in the country inside with Zeus, Ashley, and AG - RHJ is a major matchup problem in college. That attribute will be largely negated in the NBA. AG is without a doubt a better ball handler and passer than RHJ. RHJ is also very one dimensional on offense. He has no 3point shot. RHJ is never the second option on the floor for the Wildcats. York AG McConnell and Johnson all handle the ball A LOT more than him. Ashley is also a better scoring option and although he doesn't RHJ's handles he is more versatile on offense. RHJ would be nothing more than a defensive specialist with a high motor in the NBA at this point. AG would be the far better NBA player as of now.

better in the post doing what? cuz it ain't scoring.
and i'll just disagree that AG has the better handle. he's got a high sloppy handle with predetermined moves. he also overplays his hand, trying to grab the ball off the rim and go which usually leads to nothing. he should just give the ball up and fill a lane.
ag is a good passer, so i'll give him that. rhj has actually had the better ast rate so far, but the difference is negligible (<1).
if rhj is one dimensional on offense then what is ag? no dimensional? he has no go-to anything and pretty much just gets his points on garbage buckets and transition, which rhj can do too, while also being the better slasher.
at the very least rhj would be a defensive specialist. i don't even know what ag can be. an energy guy? well rhj is that too.
i'll take rhj long-term.

RHJ is better at defending the perimeter AG is better at defending the post.
AG has the ability to put a move on while driving, RHJ only tries to power through weaker defenders.
AG has the ability to pick and pop outside the 3 point line. He can drive as well as RHJ, he is better at putbacks and in transition and he is a good spot up shooter. AG is also fantastic at backdoor cuts. AG is much tougher to defend.

Other than Zeus noone in Arizona's 7 man rotation is more reliant on garbage buckets and transition than RHJ.

rhj is just a good defender anywhere. post, perimeter, wherever. rhj has the better tools and projects better to defend his position (sf) better than ag (pf) too imo.
i don't see these moves from ag. he still looks very upright and mechanical. rhj has a lower center of gravity, dribbles lower, has more abrupt, rangier changes of direction with his better length.

ag can't pick and pop. neither can shoot, but i like rhj 's form better going forward. you can see the purity of ag's stroke by his ft%. he's worked hard on it but it's still mechanical and he has some really bad misses.

sure there is another player reliant on garbage buckets and transition in their rotation. his name is aaron gordon, but i like rhj's better ability to slash.