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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#141 » by doordoor123 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:18 pm

Don7 wrote:
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JJJ and whatever guard emerges


Who is JJJ? John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt?


Jaren Jackson Jr.


..why not just say Jaren Jackson Jr then? Why make up an acronym that doesn’t exist? If other people are doing that, I’ll do it too. I’ll call him JX3. And Michael Porter Jr can be MPJR. And Mohamed Bamba can be MoBa.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#142 » by Marcus » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:35 am

doordoor123 wrote:
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Who is JJJ? John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt?


Jaren Jackson Jr.


..why not just say Jaren Jackson Jr then? Why make up an acronym that doesn’t exist? If other people are doing that, I’ll do it too. I’ll call him JX3. And Michael Porter Jr can be MPJR. And Mohamed Bamba can be MoBa.


Whatever works for you sir.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#143 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:14 am

If Porter thinks he'll recover sooner than 3 months he'll be fit for workouts and combine at minimum.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#144 » by Mr B » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If Porter thinks he'll recover sooner than 3 months he'll be fit for workouts and combine at minimum.


Porter needs to be careful not to try to come back too early. Even if it costs him a few spaces in the draft taking care of his back should be his #1 priority. He’s still going to get drafted in the 1st round. Falling a few spots only means he’ll be going to a better team which could help his development.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#145 » by 916fan » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:26 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:If Porter thinks he'll recover sooner than 3 months he'll be fit for workouts and combine at minimum.


Porter needs to be careful not to try to come back too early. Even if it costs him a few spaces in the draft taking care of his back should be his #1 priority. He’s still going to get drafted in the 1st round. Falling a few spots only means he’ll be going to a better team which could help his development.

I doubt Porter Jr falls outside of the top 10. Likely goes top 5 imo.

I think he'll have lots of advisors around him. No reason for him to rush back any injury. High pick regardless
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#146 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:38 am

Jontay (per 30) 14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal @ 124 O-Rating.

Probably helps GMs confidence if the younger, lower rated brother is performing this well.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#147 » by nolang1 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:38 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Jontay (per 30) 14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal @ 124 O-Rating.

Probably helps GMs confidence if the younger, lower rated brother is performing this well.


I don’t really follow. You could just as easily say that always playing with at least one good teammate has helped ease the burden on him. For example, when they played Marvin Bagley’s high school last season, Bagley was destroying Michael on the interior so Jontay switched onto him.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#148 » by Derento » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:15 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Jontay (per 30) 14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal @ 124 O-Rating.

Probably helps GMs confidence if the younger, lower rated brother is performing this well.


I don’t really follow. You could just as easily say that always playing with at least one good teammate has helped ease the burden on him. For example, when they played Marvin Bagley’s high school last season, Bagley was destroying Michael on the interior so Jontay switched onto him.

Probably good for confidence in his Shooting stroke when his young brother is shooting 49/40/90 who wasn't seen as a shooter.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#149 » by nolang1 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:04 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Jontay (per 30) 14 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 steal @ 124 O-Rating.

Probably helps GMs confidence if the younger, lower rated brother is performing this well.


I don’t really follow. You could just as easily say that always playing with at least one good teammate has helped ease the burden on him. For example, when they played Marvin Bagley’s high school last season, Bagley was destroying Michael on the interior so Jontay switched onto him.

Probably good for confidence in his Shooting stroke when his young brother is shooting 49/40/90 who wasn't seen as a shooter.


According to who exactly? Jontay shot 43% on 3s while playing without Michael in the EYBL this past summer; he's always been known as more of a skilled big than an athletic one. Anyway the two are different players and the jumpers Jontay shoots are primarily pick-and-pop. It surely helps show that Jontay is a good player in his own right and may have been underrated due to playing in his older brother's shadow. Even before the injury, I don't think shooting stroke was too high up on the list of concerns for MPJ.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#150 » by Marcus » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:52 pm

nolang1 wrote:
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I don’t really follow. You could just as easily say that always playing with at least one good teammate has helped ease the burden on him. For example, when they played Marvin Bagley’s high school last season, Bagley was destroying Michael on the interior so Jontay switched onto him.

Probably good for confidence in his Shooting stroke when his young brother is shooting 49/40/90 who wasn't seen as a shooter.


According to who exactly? Jontay shot 43% on 3s while playing without Michael in the EYBL this past summer; he's always been known as more of a skilled big than an athletic one. Anyway the two are different players and the jumpers Jontay shoots are primarily pick-and-pop. It surely helps show that Jontay is a good player in his own right and may have been underrated due to playing in his older brother's shadow. Even before the injury, I don't think shooting stroke was too high up on the list of concerns for MPJ.


I think he was joking and posting something similar to what you originally responded to.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#151 » by reanimator » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:23 am

Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#152 » by The Sparest » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:08 am

reanimator wrote:Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.


Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#153 » by King Ken » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:41 pm

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reanimator wrote:Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.


Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.

I would be happy if Atlanta landed any of the big 5. I would prefer Ayton and Bamba. After that, I am all over the place. Porter Jr is needed more long term. Doncic is a better fit and Bagley is the most talented with the most potential of all.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#154 » by Mr B » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:20 am

The Sparest wrote:
reanimator wrote:Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.


Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.


If the Mavs are there at 5 and have decided not to take Porter who would you take? Bagley, Doncic, Ayton, and Bamba would all be off the table who would you take?
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#155 » by King Ken » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:10 am

Mr B wrote:
The Sparest wrote:
reanimator wrote:Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.


Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.


If the Mavs are there at 5 and have decided not to take Porter who would you take? Bagley, Doncic, Ayton, and Bamba would all be off the table who would you take?

They would take Porter Jr. or Sexton. Other than Sexton, no one else in this class is worth being mentioned with those guys. Even then, with Sexton, you have a lot of NBA translate questions but then again, he's better than Dennis Smith Jr. and I don't think it's that close. Honestly, Sexton in the same class with Fultz and Ball.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#156 » by The Sparest » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:15 am

Mr B wrote:
The Sparest wrote:
reanimator wrote:Just disappointed we will have no data on him, especially since I was super high on him. Outside of Bagley, he was the guy I thought had the most questions in terms of the vision, defense and finishing.


Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.


If the Mavs are there at 5 and have decided not to take Porter who would you take? Bagley, Doncic, Ayton, and Bamba would all be off the table who would you take?


Jaren Jackson is the most likely player to push his way into the top 5. I could see the Mavs taking him over Porter at 5 if the injury concerns really are that bad. The injury scares me, especially with DSJ already on the team. Building around two guys who have injury concerns isn't ideal. But it would be hard to pass on Porter at 5 unless the injury looks really bad, or Jackson looks really good.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#157 » by King Ken » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:32 am

The Sparest wrote:
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Same here. Those guys are all exclamation points and question marks. Bagley is growing on me with every game, but Porter worries me since the Mavs could be in position to take him. He could be an All Star, a bust, or never healthy enough for us to know either way. Some team out there is going to take a huge gamble on him, and I'm not sure if I want it to be mine.


If the Mavs are there at 5 and have decided not to take Porter who would you take? Bagley, Doncic, Ayton, and Bamba would all be off the table who would you take?


Jaren Jackson is the most likely player to push his way into the top 5. I could see the Mavs taking him over Porter at 5 if the injury concerns really are that bad. The injury scares me, especially with DSJ already on the team. Building around two guys who have injury concerns isn't ideal. But it would be hard to pass on Porter at 5 unless the injury looks really bad, or Jackson looks really good.

His injury isn't that big of a deal. P.J. Tucker had it last year was out for 2 months at the most.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#158 » by The Sparest » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:59 am

King Ken wrote:His injury isn't that big of a deal. P.J. Tucker had it last year was out for 2 months at the most.


Back injuries are a big red flag to me. I've seen too many of my favorite athletes struggle with them. They have a tendency to become chronic, and while they may not end careers, they can hamper them.

I hope he proves me wrong and has a great career, but I can't deny the uneasy knot in my stomach when back injuries come up.
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Re: Michael Porter Jr. 

Post#159 » by King Ken » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:01 am

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King Ken wrote:His injury isn't that big of a deal. P.J. Tucker had it last year was out for 2 months at the most.


Back injuries are a big red flag to me. I've seen too many of my favorite athletes struggle with them. They have a tendency to become chronic, and while they may not end careers, they can hamper them.

I hope he proves me wrong and has a great career, but I can't deny the uneasy knot in my stomach when back injuries come up.

Most of the players who struggle with them were super athletics like Dwight and Tracy. These guys was much older too. Porter Jr. doesn't play like them
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Post#160 » by The Sparest » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:18 am

King Ken wrote:
The Sparest wrote:
King Ken wrote:His injury isn't that big of a deal. P.J. Tucker had it last year was out for 2 months at the most.


Back injuries are a big red flag to me. I've seen too many of my favorite athletes struggle with them. They have a tendency to become chronic, and while they may not end careers, they can hamper them.

I hope he proves me wrong and has a great career, but I can't deny the uneasy knot in my stomach when back injuries come up.

Most of the players who struggle with them were super athletics like Dwight and Tracy. These guys was much older too. Porter Jr. doesn't play like them


Yeah, that is the ray of hope here, and the reason he will still (most likely) go top 3-5 once the draft rolls around.
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