Who will be the BUST of the 2019 draft class?

[Stillwater]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

[clyde21]

Sexton should be traded and shouldn't be in the same back court w/ DG, he's not a bust in that he could be a serviceable guard off the bench but he's just not a starter

[The_Hater]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

[Stillwater]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

No not really, he is still learning and they are still starting him and he is still doing what he do, but
Now that Garland is proving to be what he was hyped as distributing the ball and shooting better despite being gifted the job all season and failing at it , we see Sexton able to play off him some despite being a ball dominant scorer above all else.
Sextons being coached to hunt for his shot pass later,they don't want him to be the floor gen type but do still obviously believe it's just a skill he can develop as they were just starting the rebuild when they picked him. Garlands probably got the floor gen gig now in half court sets and yes part of that is Sexton still doesn't have great vision or anticipatory skill except it shows up immediately if a teammate gets out and runs with him in transition which rarely happens.
So again he ain't a floor gen...to CLE he is more than that potentially and will obviously get a better feel for his teammates once they are determined.
He is probably best served as a 6th man " right now" but until KPJ is back not much sense in changing the starting line up .FYI Beilein mixes the line ups so often their are no locked in assignments

[NotACat]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

He could also be great playing next to a big PG (Simmons, Giannis, Luka, LeBron)

[Stillwater]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

He could also be great playing next to a big PG (Simmons, Giannis, Luka, LeBron)

He could become a really good starter next to Garland still as well, I mean now the Garland is finally waking up, it's allowed Sextons game to open up some. The experiment will likely go on through this time next season and by then they will know if there are ego issues or anything but right now they playing like young kids having fun out there...and that is a start
I've never liked the idea that taking a meh iq guard with elite physical tools aka high ceiling project in the lottery should be pigeonholed into a position at all this soon but given most of the time the league doesnt have the patience to develop these types most just assume the player won't break out and so therefore us what they are.
I think he is now and what he will be isn't at all the same given his relentless behaviors and esp if the org continues to believe in developing him.

[The_Hater]

most keep throwing Sexton under the Bus cause he aint a floor gen. I get that much, but he is far from a bust and can score easily.
He has been struggling with his outside shot this season which is a head scratcher, but his defense and strength picked up significantly, and the growing pains of a small back court have started to fade as both Garland and Sexton are playing better together.

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

He could also be great playing next to a big PG (Simmons, Giannis, Luka, LeBron)

But the holes in his game are still pretty big and based on what we’re watching will never become strengths. Terrible at defending PG’s and too small to defend wings and a poor passer/facilitator who looks for his own offence.

These issues coupled with his strengths don’t make him a bad player overall but they do limit his upside imo. There’s a good reason reason that players with these weaknesses have historically come off the bench as instant offence types.

He could become a really good starter next to Garland still as well,.

I honestly don’t see any scenario where that duo starts together on a contender. Two undersized, shoot first guards who are both poor defenders and substandard passers. It’s definitely a huge defensive problem but it’s not a good offensive combination either. That’s never been the type of combination a team puts in their backcourt and expects to win.

I personally think the Cavs will have to pick one or the other going forward.

[NotACat]

This is exactly why myself and others were comparing his future to Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford instead of the leagues elite PG’s.

The idea of this comparison was deemed an insult by you just 2 months ago, do you have a different opinion now?

He could also be great playing next to a big PG (Simmons, Giannis, Luka, LeBron)

But the holes in his game are still pretty big and based on what we’re watching will never become strengths. Terrible at defending PG’s and too small to defend wings and a poor passer/facilitator who looks for his own offence.

These issues coupled with his strengths don’t make him a bad player overall but they do limit his upside imo. There’s a good reason reason that players with these weaknesses have historically come off the bench as instant offence types.

He could become a really good starter next to Garland still as well,.

I honestly don’t see any scenario where that duo starts together on a contender. Two undersized, shoot first guards who are both poor defenders and substandard passers. It’s definitely a huge defensive problem but it’s not a good offensive combination either. That’s never been the type of combination a team puts in their backcourt and expects to win.

I personally think the Cavs will have to pick one or the other going forward.

I haven't watched many Cavs games, surprised to hear he's still bad at defending PGs. I think he'd do good next to a big creator because he could be a SG in a PG body, defending other PGs. The passing/facilitating wouldn't be a big deal because he'd be a secondary creator at best.

I agree with you about the Garland/Sexton backcourt. Even if the fit was good, you need a bigger team than that to compete in the NBA today.

[Stillwater]

He could also be great playing next to a big PG (Simmons, Giannis, Luka, LeBron)

But the holes in his game are still pretty big and based on what we’re watching will never become strengths. Terrible at defending PG’s and too small to defend wings and a poor passer/facilitator who looks for his own offence.

These issues coupled with his strengths don’t make him a bad player overall but they do limit his upside imo. There’s a good reason reason that players with these weaknesses have historically come off the bench as instant offence types.

He could become a really good starter next to Garland still as well,.

I honestly don’t see any scenario where that duo starts together on a contender. Two undersized, shoot first guards who are both poor defenders and substandard passers. It’s definitely a huge defensive problem but it’s not a good offensive combination either. That’s never been the type of combination a team puts in their backcourt and expects to win.

I personally think the Cavs will have to pick one or the other going forward.

I haven't watched many Cavs games, surprised to hear he's still bad at defending PGs. I think he'd do good next to a big creator because he could be a SG in a PG body, defending other PGs. The passing/facilitating wouldn't be a big deal because he'd be a secondary creator at best.

I agree with you about the Garland/Sexton backcourt. Even if the fit was good, you need a bigger team than that to compete in the NBA today.

As far as backcourt pairing on a contender...noone knows this soon if either of them is going to BECOME good enough to play in a rotation let alone start on a contender.
This early in development nobody should be making judgements either way, but it's pretty easy for me to remain interested in Sextons development because he is a much better defender who is rarely ever tasked with defending pgs because that's the only player Garland might be able to defend when they our there together. Sexton has been a serviceable defender guarding wings all season and sometimes a pg on a switch that's it. The notion he is a bad is shortsighted.
Garland has the vision Sexton lacks to be the better playmaker for others, but keep in mind the Cavs are still developing both meaning Garland needs to get stronger to defend some or at least learn to flop along with continuing his chops running the set plays making the right pass etc and Sexton needs to continue to hunt for his shot and learn to recognize quicker the opportunity for a better shot might require sacrificing the rock to an open teammate now and again even if they are not shooting good enough for him to see it as the optimal move.
I give it another year minimum before I even think about trading one away, and that's only if it's Garland because he's been outplayed