2023 Combine thread

[Big J]

Scoot didn’t measure? Yikes

[eminence]

Scoot didn’t measure? Yikes

The last top 3 guy to measure was Jaylen Brown.

Top guys don't measure, it is what it is.

[clyde21]

would've liked Cam's hands to be bigger obv but it's not very relevant unless you're a primary ball handler or a big that needs to catch in tight quarters, he killed the explosive drills and measuring almost 6-6 without shoes is actually a huge win for him.

otherwise not sure what people were expecting.

[Big J]

Scoot didn’t measure? Yikes

The last top 3 guy to measure was Jaylen Brown.

Top guys don't measure, it is what it is.

Thompson twins measured. Dudes scurred.

[EvanZ]

You can see why the Thompson twins measured though. Their last measurements were from a year ago and were much worse than this. They clearly knew they could impress people and they did. Mission accomplished.

[Big J]

You can see why the Thompson twins measured though. Their last measurements were from a year ago and were much worse than this. They clearly knew they could impress people and they did. Mission accomplished.

True, and Scoot would have probably had a poor showing.

[eminence]

Scoot didn’t measure? Yikes

The last top 3 guy to measure was Jaylen Brown.

Top guys don't measure, it is what it is.

Thompson twins measured. Dudes scurred.

Well, I did say top guys don't measure.

[Big J]

Scoot just knows he’ll get picked apart because how many 6’ guys are even in the league anymore? Not many.

[JMAC3]

would've liked Cam's hands to be bigger obv but it's not very relevant unless you're a primary ball handler or a big that needs to catch in tight quarters, he killed the explosive drills and measuring almost 6-6 without shoes is actually a huge win for him.

otherwise not sure what people were expecting.

Cam was fine and his Vert was as expected. Actually after that P3 release you could argue it was disappointing (some thought it was 44+). Him having small hands and a meh wingspan just added to the confusion on where he plays at the next level. I guess its a 2/3 but he really doesn't handle the ball or playmake much so it limits his upside at those positions.

Still like him to some degree, but still gives me those tweener vibes.

[clyde21]

he's a 2/3 and has always been a 2/3, there should have never been a confusion here.

[Duke4life831]

I’m surprised Lively didn’t get measured. Seemed like that would be an easy win for him.

He could only lose. There's no way his wingspan is as large as *he* said it was.

Ya that could easily be the reason. He was hyped at having a 7'7 wingspan all season. If he measures and it ends up being like 7'4-7'5 (not bad), definitely wouldnt be a positive media buzz about it, since most in the media automatically write him down as like a 7'7 wingspan.

[ItsDanger]

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Potential to be high end role player for years.

[JMAC3]

Jazian Gortman is a guy I could see a team take a shot at around 20. He was 6-1, but had a 6-10 wingspan and 38.5 inch vert at Gleague combine. He was a former top 10 high school player that went to OTE. Plays defense, has the tools and actually one of the better outside shooters in the OTE this year.

Played well enough in scrimmages to get combine invite, wonder if he can keep it going vs the next level of prospects.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Grant Nelson 6-10 without shoes, 7-0 wingspan

What's the wingspan for Whitmore?

Bad measurements I would say. Wingspan is 'fine' not amazing for a SF, but his hands are legit tiny.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023-24

one of my issues with whitmore at nova was his poor hands. had trouble hanging on to the ball in traffic, securing rebounds, etc. had no idea they were small, just thought he had poor hands. this may explain it.

[Rafael122]

Based on the combine numbers, no idea how Whitmore is even considered a top 10 pick at this point. Undersized, small hands, ehhh

Good thing that the draft position is not determined by some measurements. Also, what did you expect? Whitmore actually measured taller than what many people expected and nobody thought he was particularly long either. The only measurement that qualifies as a surprise are his small hands. Still, combine the measurements with the solid athletic testing numbers and this combine has not hurt Whitmore's stock at all, imo.

The issue I have with it is that he's listed as a forward but he's measuring like a guard. So what is he at the next level? PJ Tucker? I noticed on the Ringer's draft guide, he's the only one, that I can see that doesn't have a direct player comp. Not that that's a deal breaker, but what is he? A smaller Brandon Clarke?

[clyde21]

Cam is literally the same size as Jimmy Butler pretty much, down to the mediocre wingspan and hand size

and no not him comping to Jimmy Buckets, just be careful before we make too much out of measurements. it's just one side of the story.

[kobyz]

Based on the combine numbers, no idea how Whitmore is even considered a top 10 pick at this point. Undersized, small hands, ehhh

Good thing that the draft position is not determined by some measurements. Also, what did you expect? Whitmore actually measured taller than what many people expected and nobody thought he was particularly long either. The only measurement that qualifies as a surprise are his small hands. Still, combine the measurements with the solid athletic testing numbers and this combine has not hurt Whitmore's stock at all, imo.

The issue I have with it is that he's listed as a forward but he's measuring like a guard. So what is he at the next level? PJ Tucker? I noticed on the Ringer's draft guide, he's the only one, that I can see that doesn't have a direct player comp. Not that that's a deal breaker, but what is he? A smaller Brandon Clarke?

Keldon Johnson

[CP War Hawks]

Vukcevic measured out really well and he's likely the best shooting 5 in the class.

[EvanZ]

Cam is basically smaller Harrison Barnes which I’ve said several times here.


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[The-Power]

Based on the combine numbers, no idea how Whitmore is even considered a top 10 pick at this point. Undersized, small hands, ehhh

Good thing that the draft position is not determined by some measurements. Also, what did you expect? Whitmore actually measured taller than what many people expected and nobody thought he was particularly long either. The only measurement that qualifies as a surprise are his small hands. Still, combine the measurements with the solid athletic testing numbers and this combine has not hurt Whitmore's stock at all, imo.

The issue I have with it is that he's listed as a forward but he's measuring like a guard. So what is he at the next level? PJ Tucker? I noticed on the Ringer's draft guide, he's the only one, that I can see that doesn't have a direct player comp. Not that that's a deal breaker, but what is he? A smaller Brandon Clarke?

Are we still making a distinction between physical profile and skill profile? Initially you talked about measurements only, but clearly any player comparison is at least as much based on role and skill-set.

Also, I don't think he's measured as a Guard. He has the height of a SF, the length of a SG, and the weight of a PF. I'd strength is more relevant than length in terms of who you can guard, or at least as important. Length matters when it comes to the effectiveness of contests and how disruptive a player is, but not being bullied is the first threshold to pass when it comes to which players you can potentially check. So I still believe that Whitmore is a 3/4 in the NBA.