2023 NBA Draft

[The-Power]

The lottery of this draft is getting overstuffed with quality prospects. If it were up to me, these guys would get drafted in the lottery: Victor, Scoot, Amen, Ausur, GG, George, Whitmore, Miller, Sensabaugh, Smith Jr., Walker, Howard, Hendricks, Black

However, I could also see Dick, Murray and Wallace challenging for one of those spots.

I think a bunch of them are fringe lottery picks at best.

[clyde21]

so...does Scheyer get Feyerd

[WargamesX]

Was considered a weak draft at the time and turns out to be right. The draft still produced players though like all drafts.

Anthony Edwards
Lamelo Ball
Onyeka Okongwu
Devin Vassell
Tyrese Haliburton
Tyrese Maxey
Desmond Bane

Probably the best players to come out of it

All-stars
Anthony Edwards
Lamelo Ball
Tyrese Haliburton

Starter Level players
Onyeka Okongwu
Devin Vassell
Tyrese Maxey
Desmond Bane

Bench Players
Immanuel Quickley
Jaden McDaniels
Siddiq Bey
Precious Achiuwa
Aaron Nesmith
Obi Toppin
Jalen Smith
Isiah Stewart

That list above is solid for a draft. 2019 has 10 guys worth mentioning in the roles of all star, starter level, and bench players and half of them are bench players. I think everyone I mention above will get signed for second and maybe third NBA contract. The only notable thing about 2019 was how badly COVID affected scouting so the talent is scattered around the draft from 1-30.

[clyde21]

it's a terrible class broski, just stop.

[azcatz11]

so...does Scheyer get Feyerd

Miami pencils Duke in every year for that game at home. It’s their biggest rivalry. Not surprised at the result based off the game a few weeks ago. Lively looked good though. Duke must be out drinking

[The-Power]

Bench Players
Jaden McDaniels

Jaden McDaniels is and will be a starter for a long time.

[WargamesX]

Bench Players
Jaden McDaniels

Jaden McDaniels is and will be a starter for a long time.

Fair enough, that strengthens my point.

[WargamesX]

it's a terrible class broski, just stop.

We can disagree, but I had to make my argument.

To bring it back to this year’s draft, I think this year looks better than last year.

[toussaud]

I'm an arkansas fan I've seen every one of blacks game. I've seen Brandon Miller. I'm telling u guys Keyonte George.IS. HIM. HIM I TELL YA. He's a right handed James harden. A certified bucket. We have two of the best guard defenders in the country and he made them look like fools.

I think black is a perfect fit for a team like the magic cause he's a very low usage good distributor pure pg that would fit right in. But any other team with the third pick needs to jump on george.

[The-Power]

I'm an arkansas fan I've seen every one of blacks game. I've seen Brandon Miller. I'm telling u guys Keyonte George.IS. HIM. HIM I TELL YA. He's a right handed James harden. A certified bucket. We have two of the best guard defenders in the country and he made them look like fools.

James Harden was miles ahead in terms of efficiency, however. George needs to prove that he is more than just a streaky scorer to justify running the offense through him at the next level. If you catch him on his best day he looks like an absolute stud who should light up the NBA – but those days only happen every now and then.

[clyde21]

George is being criminally underrated for some reason, he's gonna be what Markelle Fultz was supposed to be, that's his comp

their numbers per36:

Fultz: 23 / 6 / 6 / 1.6 stls

George: 21 / 6 / 4 / 1.3 stls

virtually the same foul/TO rates too

and Fultz was good enough to go #1 in his class.

now Fultz was much better from an efficiency standpoint and u can argue that's the biggest differentiator, but they had almost identical FT rates as well and George is dropping his at >80% while Fultz was at 65% (probably should have been a bigger redflag that it was at the time).

he, imo, other than AB, is the only one that has a strong argument for #3 right now imo,

[The-Power]

George is being criminally underrated for some reason, he's gonna be what Markelle Fultz was supposed to be, that's his comp

their numbers per36:

Fultz: 23 / 6 / 6 / 1.6 stls

George: 21 / 6 / 4 / 1.3 stls

virtually the same foul/TO rates too

and Fultz was good enough to go #1 in his class.

now Fultz was much better from an efficiency standpoint and u can argue that's the biggest differentiator, but they had almost identical FT rates as well and George is dropping his at >80% while Fultz was at 65% (probably should have been a bigger redflag that it was at the time).

he, imo, other than AB, is the only one that has a strong argument for #3 right now imo,

Fultz playmaking numbers were much better, and he has shown a lot more athletic ability, especially on defense. Fultz college season was just a lot better overall. I buy George as a better shooter but that's about it. He should end up being better than Fultz but that's mostly because Fultz developed the yips and obviously in hindsight Fultz would be nowhere near the top of his draft any longer.

And I think I'm fairly high on George (clearly top 7, and an argument for top 5). But if you want to to make a mostly statistical/boxscore argument for anyone to be drafted #3 it would have to be Brandon Miller who has essentially been a better version Paul George on offense (not on defense) in terms of his statistical profile.

[clyde21]

i think the statistical case is just part of it, but it's more to solidify the comp to Fultz, who was probably in a vacuum a better prospect due to broader efficiency (which is why he went 1st in his class) but in terms of archetype, tools, and overall skill set I think they are pretty close, and I think KG will essentially end up being what a lot of people thought Fultz would be.

[zike_42]

What do you (meaning everyone) think will happen with Tyrese Proctor? Is he a first rounder, or maybe goes back to Duke for next season?

[babyjax13]

What do you (meaning everyone) think will happen with Tyrese Proctor? Is he a first rounder, or maybe goes back to Duke for next season?

My bet is he returns to school but not to Duke. Every NBA prospect there should transfer.

[Duke4life831]

What do you (meaning everyone) think will happen with Tyrese Proctor? Is he a first rounder, or maybe goes back to Duke for next season?

Everything I’ve heard is Proctor was planning on being at Duke for two years, don’t see any reason on why that would change.

[SeattleJazzFan]

that black/wallace matchup last night was so much fun. i have questions about both of them as prospects, but in terms of freshman point guards who compete hard, play great defense, rebound their position, play smart, under control basketball, there aren't and haven't been many like them.

[clyde21]

Black and Wallace are winning players in every way

[CptCrunch]

Black is straight up 90% as good as Cade. You can't change my mind.

(Yes I get that Black won't score 20 ppg in the league right now, but given that Cade has slightly dissapointed, I would rate Black as a better passer and an elite defender and thus would have equal impact by his 2nd year)

Plus as a Rockets fan, I'm 100% on board with drafting Black at #3 (Wemby/Scoot goes #1/#2) to replace the chucker KPJ.

[Colbinii]

Was considered a weak draft at the time and turns out to be right. The draft still produced players though like all drafts.

Anthony Edwards
Lamelo Ball
Onyeka Okongwu
Devin Vassell
Tyrese Haliburton
Tyrese Maxey
Desmond Bane

Probably the best players to come out of it

All-stars
Anthony Edwards
Lamelo Ball
Tyrese Haliburton

Starter Level players
Onyeka Okongwu
Devin Vassell
Tyrese Maxey
Desmond Bane

Bench Players
Immanuel Quickley
Jaden McDaniels
Siddiq Bey
Precious Achiuwa
Aaron Nesmith
Obi Toppin
Jalen Smith
Isiah Stewart

That list above is solid for a draft. 2019 has 10 guys worth mentioning in the roles of all star, starter level, and bench players and half of them are bench players. I think everyone I mention above will get signed for second and maybe third NBA contract. The only notable thing about 2019 was how badly COVID affected scouting so the talent is scattered around the draft from 1-30.

Jaden McDaniels is one of the better wing defenders in the game, being able to guard 1-4 [From Ja Morant to LeBron James at a high level] and is an efficient knock-down shooter.

He is not a bench player in any capacity.