Scoot Henderson

EvanZ · Post #1421 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 9:53 pm

JMAC3 wrote:2 good games, blows up thread.. but again don't forget dude hates laptaking lol. Nobody in the thread said he wasn't athletic. What was said is he isn't someone who is so athletic that he can't fail and that he will have to be a much much better shooter to be successful.

Big J has been saying this literally the whole time. It's his entire argument. :banghead:

EvanZ · Post #1422 » by **EvanZ** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 9:55 pm

I love when JMAC has to walk the laps backwards.

JMAC3 · Post #1423 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Feb 1, 2024 10:10 pm

EvanZ wrote:I love when JMAC has to walk the laps backwards.

I come in to say he had good back to back to games, don't ruin it and make me run through all the negatives that still exist my guy.

elias808 · Post #1424 » by **elias808** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 12:47 am

You can throw up all the stats you want, but at some point it goes deeper than that. The context of the team and specifically coach have to be taken into consideration for Scoots development, or lack there of.

Big J · Post #1425 » by **Big J** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 3:58 am

Even Clyde knows not to come out of his hole and lap take because Scoot is going to have another 4-12 shooting 5 turnover game soon.

elias808 · Post #1426 » by **elias808** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 4:42 am

Big J wrote:Even Clyde knows not to come out of his hole and lap take because Scoot is going to have another 4-12 shooting 5 turnover game soon.

Players have bad games. Especially on bad teams. Even more so with bad coaches. So what of it?

Unnecessary and irrelevant comment.

JMAC3 · Post #1427 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 3:49 pm

I had Scoot 5th on my board, I think he will eventually figure it out and be an average starting pg. Right now he is one of the worst players in the league by advanced stats, I clearly don't think he is that bad. However, I feel pretty confident he isn't a generational player at this point.

Portland will build around him and I think he will be fine. I said all along I thought Jaden Ivey was a better prospect than Scoot, who would you rather have right now?

EvanZ · Post #1428 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 8:18 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I had Scoot 5th on my board, I think he will eventually figure it out and be an average starting pg. Right now he is one of the worst players in the league by advanced stats, I clearly don't think he is that bad. However, I feel pretty confident he isn't a generational player at this point.

Portland will build around him and I think he will be fine. I said all along I thought Jaden Ivey was a better prospect than Scoot, who would you rather have right now?

I really don't understand this "generational player" reference that you and Big J keep bringing up throughout the thread in order to justify your laps. Was this also something that only Clyde was saying before the draft? I certainly never thought he was a "generational player". I honestly can't remember anyone here saying he was, except somehow in your and Big J's head it's your white whale. In reality, it's just a straw man. It would have been equally ridiculous to call Brandon Miller a generational player. There was only one generational player in this draft. We all know who it was. Nobody had to say it.

I'll take Scoot over Ivey right now. Not sure what you're seeing with Ivey that would justify taking him. His DARKO is POOP. In fact last I checked Scoot is already catching up as "bad" as he's been.

JMAC3 · Post #1429 » by **JMAC3** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 8:29 pm

EvanZ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I had Scoot 5th on my board, I think he will eventually figure it out and be an average starting pg. Right now he is one of the worst players in the league by advanced stats, I clearly don't think he is that bad. However, I feel pretty confident he isn't a generational player at this point.

Portland will build around him and I think he will be fine. I said all along I thought Jaden Ivey was a better prospect than Scoot, who would you rather have right now?

I really don't understand this "generational player" reference that you and Big J keep bringing up throughout the thread in order to justify your laps. Was this also something that only Clyde was saying before the draft? I certainly never thought he was a "generational player". I honestly can't remember anyone here saying he was, except somehow in your and Big J's head it's your white whale. In reality, it's just a straw man. It would have been equally ridiculous to call Brandon Miller a generational player. There was only one generational player in this draft. We all know who it was. Nobody had to say it.

I'll take Scoot over Ivey right now. Not sure what you're seeing with Ivey that would justify taking him. His DARKO is POOP. In fact last I checked Scoot is already catching up as "bad" as he's been.

Do you look at draft stuff outside of RealGM? Scoot was oversold by like 75% of people who cover the draft. He was oversold all over RealGM too, it is not just 1 poster.

In terms of the Scoot vs Ivey, again I am referencing them as prospects without even weighing in what they are today. I had Ivey as the better shooter, athlete and defender at the time of them both being drafted. In terms of where they are headed as players right now I don't have a strong preference for 1 over the other they both have been underwhelming.

EvanZ · Post #1430 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Feb 2, 2024 8:58 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I had Scoot 5th on my board, I think he will eventually figure it out and be an average starting pg. Right now he is one of the worst players in the league by advanced stats, I clearly don't think he is that bad. However, I feel pretty confident he isn't a generational player at this point.

Portland will build around him and I think he will be fine. I said all along I thought Jaden Ivey was a better prospect than Scoot, who would you rather have right now?

I really don't understand this "generational player" reference that you and Big J keep bringing up throughout the thread in order to justify your laps. Was this also something that only Clyde was saying before the draft? I certainly never thought he was a "generational player". I honestly can't remember anyone here saying he was, except somehow in your and Big J's head it's your white whale. In reality, it's just a straw man. It would have been equally ridiculous to call Brandon Miller a generational player. There was only one generational player in this draft. We all know who it was. Nobody had to say it.

I'll take Scoot over Ivey right now. Not sure what you're seeing with Ivey that would justify taking him. His DARKO is POOP. In fact last I checked Scoot is already catching up as "bad" as he's been.

Do you look at draft stuff outside of RealGM? Scoot was oversold by like 75% of people who cover the draft. He was oversold all over RealGM too, it is not just 1 poster.

In terms of the Scoot vs Ivey, again I am referencing them as prospects without even weighing in what they are today. I had Ivey as the better shooter, athlete and defender at the time of them both being drafted. In terms of where they are headed as players right now I don't have a strong preference for 1 over the other they both have been underwhelming.

No I don't look at draft stuff. It's all crap. Maybe you should take a lesson from me so you're not continually red-pilled and feel the need to rage against the machine here.

I would have had Scoot ahead of Ivey. Ivey is not a point guard at the end of the day. He's a smaller 2. It's just a tougher archetype to succeed most times. Scoot has a pretty clear path to being a legit starter in the NBA. Ivey is working uphill although I thought his elite athleticism would be enough. But he is not a good shooter, not a good defender and doesn't really bring much else other than slashing.

JRoy · Post #1431 » by **JRoy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:42 am

elias808 wrote:
Big J wrote:Even Clyde knows not to come out of his hole and lap take because Scoot is going to have another 4-12 shooting 5 turnover game soon.

Players have bad games. Especially on bad teams. Even more so with bad coaches. So what of it?

Unnecessary and irrelevant comment.

Especially bad players.

Big J · Post #1432 » by **Big J** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:37 am

Scoot is actually making me eat crow these last 3 games. Y’all Scoot homers should be beating the **** out of your chests right now.

EvanZ · Post #1433 » by **EvanZ** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:45 am

Big J wrote:Scoot is actually making me eat crow these last 3 games. Y’all Scoot homers should be beating the **** out of your chests right now.

All the receipts are here for anyone to go back and read. :lol:

MasterIchiro · Post #1434 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:34 am

You mean to say we're not surrounded by experts who are above us, but fans who are our equals?

Never!

MasterIchiro · Post #1435 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:07 am

Read on Twitter

JRoy · Post #1436 » by **JRoy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:36 am

As a POR fan I am glad to see improvement but he has a lot to prove.

MasterIchiro · Post #1437 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:41 am

JRoy wrote:As a POR fan I am glad to see improvement but he has a lot to prove.

Man, his order is to run a whole NBA team at a very young age. He's for real committed to making the most of his gifts. So is Miller. Props to advocates of both.

JRoy · Post #1438 » by **JRoy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:45 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
JRoy wrote:As a POR fan I am glad to see improvement but he has a lot to prove.

Man, his order is to run a whole NBA team at a very young age. He's for real committed to making the most of his gifts. So is Miller. Props to advocates of both.

Lillard is a tough act to follow. I didn’t like the pick.

He seems to be be humble after a very rough introduction to nba basketball. I am hoping he proves me wrong.

MasterIchiro · Post #1439 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:47 am

JRoy wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
JRoy wrote:As a POR fan I am glad to see improvement but he has a lot to prove.

Man, his order is to run a whole NBA team at a very young age. He's for real committed to making the most of his gifts. So is Miller. Props to advocates of both.

Lillard is a tough act to follow. I didn’t like the pick.

He seems to be be humble after a very rough introduction to nba basketball. I am hoping he proves me wrong.

I like Sharpe with him too. Both very raw but the ceiling is there. It was the right time to pivot.

I wouldn't settle for anything less than 2 first round picks for Anfernee Simons either.

I like Brogdon in a caretaker role as well.

Downhill ever since you took Nance Jr. over Lauri in the Bulls trade with the Cavs.

JRoy · Post #1440 » by **JRoy** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:49 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
JRoy wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Man, his order is to run a whole NBA team at a very young age. He's for real committed to making the most of his gifts. So is Miller. Props to advocates of both.

Lillard is a tough act to follow. I didn’t like the pick.

He seems to be be humble after a very rough introduction to nba basketball. I am hoping he proves me wrong.

I like Sharpe with him too. Both very raw but the ceiling is there. It was the right time to pivot.

I wouldn't settle for anything less than 2 first round picks for Anfernee Simons either.

I like Brogdon in a caretaker role as well.

Downhill ever since you took Nance Jr. over Lauri in the Bulls trade with the Cavs.

You’re not wrong.

Picking a different HC would have been great too.