realEAST wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:realEAST wrote:
What I liked about him the little I watched him this season is that he looked like the floor general when he was out there. I have a sense his role on the team was diminished towards the end of season as the stakes got higher. I think his shooting woes overshadowed other aspects of his game, which are all at pretty decent level, and if or as he improves shooting wise, all of them should become more apparent.
He was misused. In high school he was fantastic in transition and in the PnR. He was fantastic in transition at Duke (scoring or facilitating) but for some reason Duke rarely ran the PnR with him. Here was one of my main issues with Duke and K last year.
Duval: PnR just 13% of his plays
Carter: Roll man in just 5% of his plays
Bagley: Roll man in just 4% of his plays
Now the few times Duval did run the PnR it wasnt the greatest but he never was able to get the chance to get any kind of rhythm with it, PnR was one of the reasons he was ranked so high. Then you team him up with 2 guys that are made to be PnR lob targets and you rarely run it. Just for comparison on the lack of times these 3 ran the PnR
Young: PnR 37%
Sexton: PnR 29%
Doncic: PnR 32%
Ayton: Roll man 15%
Bamba: Roll man 12%
Really interesting stats, especially since P'n'R is one of the most common plays in NBA. Just goes to show how much right situation means for young player.
Maybe slightly off topic, and I probably haven't followed college basketball close enough to make a more compelling case, but I think too much talent on a college team, in a sense of players who require room for mistakes in order to develop, no matter how good they are, is an obvious downside for those very prospects, which should stop the barely emerging trend of trying to form "superteams" on college level, what seems to me Duke and Kentucky tried/did this year (and those guys agreed to, ofc), stacking a lot of talented freshmen on their teams.
Ya, so Duval in a more heavy PnR system could thrive like he did back in high school, instead of his biggest play style coming from spot ups, especially when spot up shooting is the worst aspect of his game.
I think playing for a stacked team in college can have its positives and negatives. The 2015 UK team I think had a lot of positives for those players. KAT got to play alongside the best defensive player in the country with WCS, WCS was able to erase a lot of the bad rotations KAT did and it allowed KAT to focus more on help side blocks and he looked great defensively. Trey Lyles was another guy in the perfect situation where all his negatives were hidden and his strengths were highlighted. Justise Winslow was another dude that benefited from a stacked team.
But ya you definitely can run into some negatives and Wendell Carter said some pretty similar things a couple weeks ago. Duval was on a stacked team and whenever he made any kind of mistake with the ball, K would take the ball out of his hands and put it into Grayson's hands. Then add that the system K had them playing didnt really take advantage of the roster didnt help.
This upcoming Duke team is going to be intriguing to watch because of this exact thing. Is a guy like Zion going to be put in the perfect situation with him being the #3 guy on offense, he will be able to take advantage of big time mismatches and look great while his biggest negatives get hidden. Or does he get somewhat lost in the shuffle and it hurts him. I do trust K's ability let wings shine in his system though. He has a pretty damn good track record of wings looking great (Winslow, Tatum, Ingram, Parker, Hood and even Deng back in the day).
