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Collier's archetype sucks and he doesn't care at all about winning and he'll only be good if he learns how to shoot and man does that jumper look terrible, but I think he has to be firmly top 10 at this point despite all his massive flaws due to the lack of high level talent in this draft.
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Worst games of the year for both Furphy and Walter. Both dropping on my Board. Walter's form, release and rotation are great. But his footwork needs a lot of work. That's why he's a very erratic and streaky shooter. I'm assuming he has good work ethic and will address it. The lack of any dribble drive game, somewhat understandable for wings in college due to zones, is very concerning. Like Furphy, and many others, he might benefit by returning. I'm not sure either are contributing at the NBA level next season anyway so maybe they shouldn't come out. I have a feeling many of these supposed first round guys will be returning due to NIL
Furphy just looked completely out of sorts. So bad he was benched for a deep end of rotation guy. I dunno if he was sick or what but he wasn't running back on defense and was moving slowly. Not a good look on the big stage.
Missi looked like the best NBA talent on the floor. He's definitely not a true 7 footer since he looked maybe slightly taller than Dickinson. He will probably measure just shy of 6'11" But his growth in such a short time is impressive. If he can gain some strength he could be a problem since he has the ability to put the ball on the floor and has nice touch around the basket.
Furphy just looked completely out of sorts. So bad he was benched for a deep end of rotation guy. I dunno if he was sick or what but he wasn't running back on defense and was moving slowly. Not a good look on the big stage.
Missi looked like the best NBA talent on the floor. He's definitely not a true 7 footer since he looked maybe slightly taller than Dickinson. He will probably measure just shy of 6'11" But his growth in such a short time is impressive. If he can gain some strength he could be a problem since he has the ability to put the ball on the floor and has nice touch around the basket.
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HadAnEffectHere wrote:Collier's archetype sucks and he doesn't care at all about winning and he'll only be good if he learns how to shoot and man does that jumper look terrible, but I think he has to be firmly top 10 at this point despite all his massive flaws due to the lack of high level talent in this draft.
yeah, 6'4" point guards that can drive and finish at the rim through contact, get to the FT line or pass out to open men have no place in today's NBA /s
He's shooting like 33% from three. Hardly "terrible" I think he's firmly in the top 5 as the top PG in this class and he'd go in the top half of nearly every lottery. Time to just accept this isn't as bad a draft class as you've been reading it is.
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The high end talent in this class isn't good, which makes people say it's "bad". Yeah, there's no no-doubt superstar, but when I do mocks for my website there are a lot of guys I leave out of the first round that I'm not happy about. I like the depth of this class a lot and think we could get quite a few rotation guys well into the second round.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:HadAnEffectHere wrote:Collier's archetype sucks and he doesn't care at all about winning and he'll only be good if he learns how to shoot and man does that jumper look terrible, but I think he has to be firmly top 10 at this point despite all his massive flaws due to the lack of high level talent in this draft.
yeah, 6'4" point guards that can drive and finish at the rim through contact, get to the FT line or pass out to open men have no place in today's NBA /s
He's shooting like 33% from three. Hardly "terrible" I think he's firmly in the top 5 as the top PG in this class and he'd go in the top half of nearly every lottery. Time to just accept this isn't as bad a draft class as you've been reading it is.
The Trojans are a dumpster fire. I think Collier has been pretty good since returning, considering how bad that team is. I don't know where "he doesn't care at all about winning" comes from? He's had to carry that offense quite a bit. He's a good finisher, decent enough play maker and has cut down on his turnovers.
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Collier complains constantly and throws passes with no shot just to try to look cool.
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BigGargamel wrote:The high end talent in this class isn't good, which makes people say it's "bad". Yeah, there's no no-doubt superstar, but when I do mocks for my website there are a lot of guys I leave out of the first round that I'm not happy about. I like the depth of this class a lot and think we could get quite a few rotation guys well into the second round.
a lot of those dudes are just gonna end up going back to school
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With some of the young players starting to produce like Matas and Collier, for teams that want to develop guys over time, this class is getting stronger and stronger.
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clyde21 wrote:BigGargamel wrote:The high end talent in this class isn't good, which makes people say it's "bad". Yeah, there's no no-doubt superstar, but when I do mocks for my website there are a lot of guys I leave out of the first round that I'm not happy about. I like the depth of this class a lot and think we could get quite a few rotation guys well into the second round.
a lot of those dudes are just gonna end up going back to school
If it's as bad as a draft as people think why would they go back to school? I'm of the opinion that most will if nothing else test the waters and see how they stack up with the other potential draftees during the process. If someone saw Missi against Houston, where he hit one basket, they would call him a scrub. But then he played well today and now he's going to lotto?
The pre-draft process is going to determine everything this year (more than what we're accustomed to). With that third two-way contract, things have changed regarding staying in school as well. There are quite a few guys on two-ways right now that I believe would get cut for second rounders this coming draft.
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The Kings only have their 2nd round draft pick (currently #49) so I’m focused on some hidden gems. And I’d preferably like to take some swings on a PF that could be an ideal fit with Sabonis.
Doing some light research, I feel like the candidates are:
Alex Karaban
Bobi Klintman
Coleman Hawkins
Kwame Evans
PJ Hall
Tristan Da Silva
Ulrich Chomche
I’d be curious to get anyone’s take on these players (and if you think they could be a good fit at PF next to Sabonis). Chomche and Klintman seem the most interesting to me with their size, length, and mobility.
Doing some light research, I feel like the candidates are:
Alex Karaban
Bobi Klintman
Coleman Hawkins
Kwame Evans
PJ Hall
Tristan Da Silva
Ulrich Chomche
I’d be curious to get anyone’s take on these players (and if you think they could be a good fit at PF next to Sabonis). Chomche and Klintman seem the most interesting to me with their size, length, and mobility.
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bpcox05 wrote:The Kings only have their 2nd round draft pick (currently #49) so I’m focused on some hidden gems. And I’d preferably like to take some swings on a PF that could be an ideal fit with Sabonis.
Doing some light research, I feel like the candidates are:
Alex Karaban
Bobi Klintman
Coleman Hawkins
Kwame Evans
PJ Hall
Tristan Da Silva
Ulrich Chomche
I’d be curious to get anyone’s take on these players (and if you think they could be a good fit at PF next to Sabonis). Chomche and Klintman seem the most interesting to me with their size, length, and mobility.
Most of these guys are likely gone by #49.
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Colbinii wrote:bpcox05 wrote:The Kings only have their 2nd round draft pick (currently #49) so I’m focused on some hidden gems. And I’d preferably like to take some swings on a PF that could be an ideal fit with Sabonis.
Doing some light research, I feel like the candidates are:
Alex Karaban
Bobi Klintman
Coleman Hawkins
Kwame Evans
PJ Hall
Tristan Da Silva
Ulrich Chomche
I’d be curious to get anyone’s take on these players (and if you think they could be a good fit at PF next to Sabonis). Chomche and Klintman seem the most interesting to me with their size, length, and mobility.
Most of these guys are likely gone by #49.
Well that’s a major buzzkill…
Which ones do you think would go in the 1st round (if any)?
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Of the 5 worst teams who would you like to see land the #1 pick?
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Scoot/Sharpe is a promising future. I assume they go with the top wing on their board #1.eminence wrote:I'd go with the Blazers, no strong preference though.
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Although some would hate it, I think the Spurs landing the #1 pick again would be great for them. They get to pair Wemby with a running mate for the future.
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JustBuzzin wrote:Of the 5 worst teams who would you like to see land the #1 pick?
Grizz or Hornets. Grizz could really pick based on fit or BPA as long as it’s not a lead guard. Whoever it is won’t be asked to do a lot and may not even start as we are ready to compete.
For the Hornets, just want some help for B Mill
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shangrila wrote:shangrila wrote:
I struggle to judge these heliocentric guys.
There's a skill to being able to play a role and play within a scheme. I don't know if he has it.
And after I say this he drops 30pts, 23rbds (not a typo), 9asts and 3stls. Efficiency wasn't great as he went 1-9 from 3 but he did go perfect from the line (11-11).
Just crazy numbers. At some point you stop worrying about role and just take him to see what he can do.
He also played 45 minutes in this OT game, so I assume the Knicks are going to end up drafting him.
Yeah I don't really get the hype with him. He is a 4 yr college player who is just too big/fast for the Big Sky. If he played on a decent power 5 team vs real power 5 schools I really don't know if he would be considered a draft prospect. Go look at their schedule it is a joke.
He also is only a career 32% three point shooter on pretty meh volume. He will probably be around 45 on my board if I extend it that far.
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Cam Christie (younger brother of Max) looks promising. Not sure he declares for '24 draft.
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