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Post#1521 » by GSWFan1994 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:39 am

clyde21 wrote:kinda like how people actually thought Davion Mitchell was a 40% shooter last yr that was a fun one


Do you remember our old comrade Old Blue quoting us (about what we said regarding Mitchell, pre-draft) in his signature, and then removing it when his narrative didn't fit?

I do! :lol:
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Post#1522 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:24 am

zimpy27 wrote:
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Ok but Ivey did that last year, why wasn't he a top prospect last year? Why isn't he already on an NBA team?


Westbrook was drafted after his sophomore season.


Yeah but he played in 9 minutes a game as a freshman, Ivey played 24 minutes a game.

Westbrook also improved a lot in assists which is what got him drafted since he had a role on an NBA team. Assist rate doubled.


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Post#1523 » by zimpy27 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:42 am

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Westbrook was drafted after his sophomore season.


Yeah but he played in 9 minutes a game as a freshman, Ivey played 24 minutes a game.

Westbrook also improved a lot in assists which is what got him drafted since he had a role on an NBA team. Assist rate doubled.


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Yeah Oladipo is a good example of this
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Post#1524 » by The Moose » Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:46 am

basketballRob wrote:Anyone else feel like Chet may force his way to Orlando to play with Suggs? Apparently they've been playing with each other since the 3rd grad.

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won't happen, unless every gm just decided to help the magic
If a team is in position to take Chet, and wants him, they will take him. If they don't want him, they would ask for a ransom from the Magic in this case. They won't just sit there and say, "oh well, Chet wants to play with Suggs, guess we'll take someone we consider a lesser prospect"

i think he would be a good fit on the magic though
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Post#1525 » by MotownMadness » Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:28 pm

My God Jabari's jump shot is so smooth, if his ball
handling improves he really could be like a Durant. Although I hate setting a unrealistic comp like that his shot at his height is incredible.
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Post#1526 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:59 pm

MotownMadness wrote:My God Jabari's jump shot is so smooth, if his ball
handling improves he really could be like a Durant. Although I hate setting a unrealistic comp like that his shot at his height is incredible.


hes unguardable, some people here still don't seem to understand that.

when was the last time we saw a 6-10 18 yr old be the best shooter/scorer in his class? this is absurd.
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Post#1527 » by MotownMadness » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:00 pm

clyde21 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:My God Jabari's jump shot is so smooth, if his ball
handling improves he really could be like a Durant. Although I hate setting a unrealistic comp like that his shot at his height is incredible.


hes unguardable, some people here still don't seem to understand that.

He shoots alot of them contested as well it seems
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Post#1528 » by clyde21 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:06 pm

OMG JABARI JFC
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Post#1529 » by NYPiston » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:13 pm

clyde21 wrote:
hes unguardable, some people here still don't seem to understand that.

when was the last time we saw a 6-10 18 yr old be the best shooter/scorer in his class? this is absurd.


KD

It's odd. People like to pick apart what he can't do (the ballhandling in particular) but largely ignore all the things he does at a very high level. He's an elite shooter and, oh yeah, he also happens to be 6'10. That will translate to the NBA no matter what. He's also way underrated defensively, length, IQ and effort all there defensively. One of the youngest players in the class so there's still a lot of potential to unlock and he's already pretty darn good already.

Edit: How does Jabari not get a touch on the final possession. smh
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Post#1530 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:24 pm

Caleb Love appears to be rated low. He's pretty much unanimously a non first round pick. He looks as if he's made more for the NBA game than college. He shoots 41% from 3 with pro moves off the dribble, and even off the catch after running around screens. It's as if he has refined his perimeter game first, opposite most lead guards his age. OJ Mayo and Ben Gordon are names that come to mind as to what he could become, although with a much less productive midrange at the moment. He's from St. Louis, Beal and Tatum are from the same city. Perhaps there is something in the water that will have him retain his 3 point shooting prowess in the NBA while growing his game massively.
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Post#1531 » by retrobro90 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:27 am

I think Benny Mathurin is getting under sold right now. Saw Vecenie respond to somebody on twitter and he was agreeing that Will Barton would be a good comp. Made no sense to me. Ben has a much higher motor/toughness and isn't a complete flow killer on offense. Big time shot maker. Not afraid to get his nose dirty against these Oregon Ducks tonight.
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Post#1532 » by Chi town » Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:36 am

retrobro90 wrote:I think Benny Mathurin is getting under sold right now. Saw Vecenie respond to somebody on twitter and he was agreeing that Will Barton would be a good comp. Made no sense to me. Ben has a much higher motor/toughness and isn't a complete flow killer on offense. Big time shot maker. Not afraid to get his nose dirty against these Oregon Ducks tonight.


Ben is a gamer. He will be a really good pro. Winner.
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Post#1533 » by babyjax13 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:04 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:Caleb Love appears to be rated low. He's pretty much unanimously a non first round pick. He looks as if he's made more for the NBA game than college. He shoots 41% from 3 with pro moves off the dribble, and even off the catch after running around screens. It's as if he has refined his perimeter game first, opposite most lead guards his age. OJ Mayo and Ben Gordon are names that come to mind as to what he could become, although with a much less productive midrange at the moment. He's from St. Louis, Beal and Tatum are from the same city. Perhaps there is something in the water that will have him retain his 3 point shooting prowess in the NBA while growing his game massively.


I have him as a late first. He can shoot, he's got good size for a point guard, and he is pretty athletic. Worst case scenario is a bench player who doesn't kill you, but I think he's likely going to be a very good 6th-8th man with a chance to be a starting caliber player.
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Post#1534 » by Chi town » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:15 am

I think this is a strong draft. Jabari looks to be Morant level prospect. Lots of high ceiling guys in lottery.
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Post#1535 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:51 am

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SelfishPlayer wrote:Caleb Love appears to be rated low. He's pretty much unanimously a non first round pick. He looks as if he's made more for the NBA game than college. He shoots 41% from 3 with pro moves off the dribble, and even off the catch after running around screens. It's as if he has refined his perimeter game first, opposite most lead guards his age. OJ Mayo and Ben Gordon are names that come to mind as to what he could become, although with a much less productive midrange at the moment. He's from St. Louis, Beal and Tatum are from the same city. Perhaps there is something in the water that will have him retain his 3 point shooting prowess in the NBA while growing his game massively.


I have him as a late first. He can shoot, he's got good size for a point guard, and he is pretty athletic. Worst case scenario is a bench player who doesn't kill you, but I think he's likely going to be a very good 6th-8th man with a chance to be a starting caliber player.


Alondes Williams is another interesting lead guard with great explosion, strength, and balance. He's 22, but he can do advanced things effortlessly that NBA starters can't. Additionally, he finishes above the rim, absorbs contact/overpowers, and can pass off the dribble with either hand. He's listed at 6'5" but he reminds me of shorter players like Baron Davis and Stephon Marbury.
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Post#1536 » by babyjax13 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:59 am

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SelfishPlayer wrote:Caleb Love appears to be rated low. He's pretty much unanimously a non first round pick. He looks as if he's made more for the NBA game than college. He shoots 41% from 3 with pro moves off the dribble, and even off the catch after running around screens. It's as if he has refined his perimeter game first, opposite most lead guards his age. OJ Mayo and Ben Gordon are names that come to mind as to what he could become, although with a much less productive midrange at the moment. He's from St. Louis, Beal and Tatum are from the same city. Perhaps there is something in the water that will have him retain his 3 point shooting prowess in the NBA while growing his game massively.


I have him as a late first. He can shoot, he's got good size for a point guard, and he is pretty athletic. Worst case scenario is a bench player who doesn't kill you, but I think he's likely going to be a very good 6th-8th man with a chance to be a starting caliber player.


Alondes Williams is another interesting lead guard with great explosion, strength, and balance. He's 22, but he can do advanced things effortlessly that NBA starters can't. Additionally, he finishes above the rim, absorbs contact/overpowers, and can pass off the dribble with either hand. He's listed at 6'5" but he reminds me of shorter players like Baron Davis and Stephon Marbury.


I like him, too. Not sure I'd make those comps as I don't see a lead guard, but physical secondary creators who can rebound are really valuable (Josh Hart and Marcus Smart being good examples).
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Post#1537 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:47 am

babyjax13 wrote:
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I have him as a late first. He can shoot, he's got good size for a point guard, and he is pretty athletic. Worst case scenario is a bench player who doesn't kill you, but I think he's likely going to be a very good 6th-8th man with a chance to be a starting caliber player.


Alondes Williams is another interesting lead guard with great explosion, strength, and balance. He's 22, but he can do advanced things effortlessly that NBA starters can't. Additionally, he finishes above the rim, absorbs contact/overpowers, and can pass off the dribble with either hand. He's listed at 6'5" but he reminds me of shorter players like Baron Davis and Stephon Marbury.


I like him, too. Not sure I'd make those comps as I don't see a lead guard, but physical secondary creators who can rebound are really valuable (Josh Hart and Marcus Smart being good examples).


I definitely see him as a more on the ball player especially with his creative flair. devonte' graham, and fred vanvleet are more of what I'm aiming for as far as an overlooked lead guard that can come in, ball out and develop some trade value. I'm not as huge on body typing as some, if I were, Lonnie Walker would be his comp.
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Post#1538 » by azcatz11 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:34 pm

Who does everyone like more - Mathurin or Davis? About the same age. I think Mathurin is a little longer but that just may be because he’s skinnier. I think they’re the same height also
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Post#1539 » by CptCrunch » Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:56 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Who does everyone like more - Mathurin or Davis? About the same age. I think Mathurin is a little longer but that just may be because he’s skinnier. I think they’re the same height also


Davis is a late lotto to early 20's pick for me. Davis is a negative athlete for his position in the league and is in love with jacking up mid-range jumpers. Davis has jacked his 3pt shot to 33.3% this year, and he lacks the talent to be a first option shot jacker in the league. At the end of the day, you have a mediocre efficiency high volume first option with average SG size, negative athleticism. Is any team be willing to let him run their offense?

Mathurin is a #6-10 pick. Mathurin is a much better athlete and has much better size (1" and 15 lbs on paper). Mathurin is a solid shooter, but is otherwise boring/average for a SG prospect. But this draft is so down on guard talent that Mathurin is a mid lotto pick.
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Post#1540 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:03 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Who does everyone like more - Mathurin or Davis? About the same age. I think Mathurin is a little longer but that just may be because he’s skinnier. I think they’re the same height also

Im not as high on Davis as I think most are. I have Mathurin over him without too much hesitation at the moment.

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