Future draft classes

EricAnderson · Post #1581 » by **EricAnderson** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:31 am

Bagley is very impressive

B-Ball Freak · Post #1582 » by **B-Ball Freak** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:19 am

EricAnderson wrote:Bagley is very impressive

He's got a challenger for that number one spot in his class, Zion Willamson is killing the internet right now.

No-Man · Post #1583 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:22 pm

Vanderbilt decision is huge, he could be a gigantic piece for Oregon with Troy Brown coming in, UNC gonna need somebody at the 3-4 as well, Kentucky has literally 0 wings, although he is more of a PF, and TCU could have their best team in history with him and Fisher and solidify what Dixon has been doing, major major recruit.

Post #1584 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:44 pm

Fischella wrote:Vanderbilt decision is huge, he could be a gigantic piece for Oregon with Troy Brown coming in, UNC gonna need somebody at the 3-4 as well, Kentucky has literally 0 wings, although he is more of a PF, and TCU could have their best team in history with him and Fisher and solidify what Dixon has been doing, major major recruit.

Vanderbilts decision has an echo affect as well I think with a guy like Knox. If Vanderbilt goes to UK, with him and PJ I think that would make it too crowded for Knox to consider UK and will probably go down between UNC and Duke for Knox. UNC may really need Knox if Justin Jackson and Bradley both leave.

No-Man · Post #1585 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:57 pm

Bradley is gonna stay almost for sure, gonna get big boy minutes as a starter and be featured big time next year, so not really related, we still need Vanderbilt, not gonna happen though, and Knox is going Duke, hopefully Berry stays, Pinson as well and we can be competitive,

Berry-Felton
Williams-Woods-Platek
Pinson-Robinson
Maye
Bradley-Huffman/Manley

Really need another Forward, and Roy has nobody up his sleeve if both Knox and Vanderbilt bolt, and they will.

EricAnderson · Post #1586 » by **EricAnderson** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:18 pm

Reading tweets from guys about Ayton for a few years it really sounds like he's not the greatest competitor to say the least

When I first heard about him thought he could be a generational talent..Sounds like he's not close to that type of player

Post #1587 » by **Marcus** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:33 pm

EricAnderson wrote:Reading tweets from guys about Ayton for a few years it really sounds like he's not the greatest competitor to say the least

When I first heard about him thought he could be a generational talent..Sounds like he's not close to that type of player

he is a remarkable talent. has everything it takes to be one of the best bigs in this new era of bigs that we have in the NBA. Kid just doesn't work that hard on court. He checks out when its not handed to him it seems. When he's motivated and engaged he's a monster but how often does that happen is the question with him.

Post #1588 » by **Marcus** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:42 pm

Watch on YouTube

I know its a highlight video but I think it puts into perspective what is meant in regards to how hard Ayton plays. This is a showcase matchup with Mo Bamba who is the other freak ceiling big in the class with Ayton. Watch the activity of the two bigs and see who is more involved in what's going on. Watch who rotates and challenges and goes at the other.

Keep in mind Ayton has a much better offensive game and can be a monster on the block and both have high rim-protection and rebounding potential.

Like I said it's a highlight package so sure there could be a lot left out but I think it's still telling. Also I don't know the stat lines for either kid in this game but I'm sure they're online somewhere.

EricAnderson · Post #1589 » by **EricAnderson** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:49 pm

Marcus wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:Reading tweets from guys about Ayton for a few years it really sounds like he's not the greatest competitor to say the least

When I first heard about him thought he could be a generational talent..Sounds like he's not close to that type of player

he is a remarkable talent. has everything it takes to be one of the best bigs in this new era of bigs that we have in the NBA. Kid just doesn't work that hard on court. He checks out when its not handed to him it seems. When he's motivated and engaged he's a monster but how often does that happen is the question with him.

Even on the court I've heard now he's ceiling maybe an Aldridge.

Bamba has no offensive game

The 18' draft is looking pretty rough right now

Post #1590 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:11 am

EricAnderson wrote:
Marcus wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:Reading tweets from guys about Ayton for a few years it really sounds like he's not the greatest competitor to say the least

When I first heard about him thought he could be a generational talent..Sounds like he's not close to that type of player

he is a remarkable talent. has everything it takes to be one of the best bigs in this new era of bigs that we have in the NBA. Kid just doesn't work that hard on court. He checks out when its not handed to him it seems. When he's motivated and engaged he's a monster but how often does that happen is the question with him.

Even on the court I've heard now he's ceiling maybe an Aldridge.

Bamba has no offensive game

The 18' draft is looking pretty rough right now

Ayton's ceiling is higher than Aldridge if it clicks and he actually puts in the work. But Im not willing to bet on that. To me Bamba is an elite prospect. His freakish length plus his athleticism plus a crazy work ethic, even if he doesnt add an offensive game, hes going to be in contention for DPOY for the majority of his career and a beast on the boards and can hit free throws.

I think the draft has about 4-5 guys that I think teams will feel really good about. After that though, I think there is a really big drop off, there is no depth in this class at all. But if you get a top 5 pick you have a solid chance of coming away happy. The guys have high potential but some serious question marks.

Also on a side note, been following Bamba for awhile, my god the dude is so much bigger now. You can tell he has really focused on getting stronger, the dude is probably going to get pretty strong in his prime.

Post #1591 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:13 am

I put this in his thread but thought Id put it over here as well. The Zion Williamson show continued Tuesday night. Honestly he maybe the most entertaining college player since Lebron. He is just a freak of nature.

Watch on YouTube

Upperclass · Post #1592 » by **Upperclass** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:01 pm

He actually moves alot like LeBron as well.. its kinda uncanny. His comp is so garbage though

Post #1593 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:14 pm

Upperclass wrote:He actually moves alot like LeBron as well.. its kinda uncanny. His comp is so garbage though

In that video the opposing team has two 5 star players on it and he was guarded by one of them all game. He's also dominated the high end camps that he's gone to. The garbage comp thing can be said for every high school prospect for 99% of their games.

Upperclass · Post #1594 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:04 am

I'm not knocking him. He's problem the best H.S. wing prospect ive seen since LeBron.. his highlights are actually better than LeBrons at the same age..

Post #1595 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:14 am

Upperclass wrote:I'm not knocking him. He's problem the best H.S. wing prospect ive seen since LeBron.. his highlights are actually better than LeBrons at the same age..

Ya im not saying youre knocking him. Just saying the bad comp thing can be said for every high school prospect and that he has shown to be dominant against top level competition as well.

EricAnderson · Post #1596 » by **EricAnderson** » Mon Feb 6, 2017 8:42 pm

Watch on YouTube

Looks like Bagley is back to reclaim his spot

Beast

Post #1597 » by **Marcus** » Mon Feb 6, 2017 9:29 pm

EricAnderson wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Looks like Bagley is back to reclaim his spot

Beast

I'm sure the Zion hype has to be getting back to him.

Post #1598 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Feb 6, 2017 10:17 pm

Just for all fairness here is a quick clip of Zion dunking haha

Watch on YouTube

Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

jrob23 · Post #1599 » by **jrob23** » Mon Feb 6, 2017 11:23 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Just for all fairness here is a quick clip of Zion dunking haha

Watch on YouTube

Honestly this class has 0 depth, this is a 2 man class. Langford is a solid prospect and Reddish is solid as well. After those 4 its pretty weak. But man those 2 guys at the top are freaks! Bagley is basically the perfect 4 in today's game. 6'10 with a 7"+ wingspan, athletic and has great upside as a scorer. Zion still needs to work on his shot and is undersized for the 4. But man the potential for him is ridiculous, 6'7 built like a tank already but extremely quick and fast and the dude gets his head at the height of the rim with ease. The thing that doesnt get shown in his highlights is his ridiculous IQ, that dude just never makes mistakes, always makes the smart pass and only takes high quality shots. Those 2 would battle for the #1 pick in most drafts, Langford and Reddish are okay top 5 picks, either than that, look for this to be the year teams try to trade their 1st rounder in.

Looks like a fairly strong lottery (at least) to me. Another 'Greek Freak', Bagley, Langford, Zion, Moses....It's an even bigger draft class than 2018.

No-Man · Post #1600 » by **No-Man** » Tue Feb 7, 2017 3:55 pm

Bagley is clearly a Center when he is done maturing physically and you gotta be kidding me with Zion been undersized to play the 4.