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Post#1581 » by yoyoboy » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:19 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Would Wendell Carter be much improvement on Tristan Thompson?

He's bigger and longer than Tristan, he's a much better shooter, he's better in the post and his touch around the basket is way better, he's a smarter player, and he's a better dribbler. They're similarly active in terms of motor, even though Tristan's has declined in that aspect in the past two years.

Tristan has a higher vertical, but he's slower off the ground. I'll give Tristan the advantage for side-to-side mobility, but neither of these two are/will be that successful switching onto guards. Tristan used to be good, but he gets burned every time now, a result of both better scouting and his overall regression as a player.

Carter will likely be a better player than Tristan halfway into his rookie season.
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Post#1582 » by SirChurros » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:38 am

I honestly kind of get a Boogie vibe from Wendell Carter. I think this kid is getting overlooked big time.
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Post#1583 » by 916fan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:18 am

doordoor123 wrote:Hot Take: Miles Bridges won’t be able to defend the wing in the NBA. He’ll have to try to recover a lot. His lateral movement just isn’t very good.

I disagee. He's got adequate lateral quickness on SFs. How many SFs will be able to face him up and attack Here are some of the better SFs in the game:
1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. George
4. Middleton
5. Kawhi
6. Wiggins
7. Barnes
8. Harris
9. Warren
10. Porter Jr
11. Covington
12. Ingram
13. Tatum
14. Carroll
15. Ariza

There are very few on the list who have a legitimate slashing game. Most of them are post-power players or jumpshooters. I don't see his quickness being a major problem. He balances himself out with his strength.
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Post#1584 » by Kolkmania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:45 am

916fan wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Hot Take: Miles Bridges won’t be able to defend the wing in the NBA. He’ll have to try to recover a lot. His lateral movement just isn’t very good.

I disagee. He's got adequate lateral quickness on SFs. How many SFs will be able to face him up and attack Here are some of the better SFs in the game:
1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. George
4. Middleton
5. Kawhi
6. Wiggins
7. Barnes
8. Harris
9. Warren
10. Porter Jr
11. Covington
12. Ingram
13. Tatum
14. Carroll
15. Ariza

There are very few on the list who have a legitimate slashing game. Most of them are post-power players or jumpshooters. I don't see his quickness being a major problem. He balances himself out with his strength.


I personally I'm not convinced yet if Bridges will be a plus defender in the NBA, but as a wing defender in the modern NBA you have to be way more versatile than being capable of containing let's say Robert Covington. With all the heavy-switching schemes around the perimeter he'll get switched onto smaller wings as well, not sure if he can effectively guard those as well.
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Post#1585 » by kennydorglas » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:29 pm

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Post#1586 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:13 pm

Carter looked like a top-5 pick today.
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Post#1587 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:08 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Carter looked like a top-5 pick today.


He has outplayed Bagley the last 3 games. Wake has a really big front line, but I'm still waiting to see Carter bring it against a top tier front line. MSU he struggled from the field, Texas he was pretty quiet throughout most of the game (solid stats though). I'm looking forward to the Louisville game to see if he can have the same impact against a top tier front line love he has had against these small or bad front lines.
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Post#1588 » by doordoor123 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:31 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Carter looked like a top-5 pick today.


I would take him at the 5th pick. I have him at 8 right now, just behind the 7 top guys (Young, Jackson, Porter, Ayton, Mamba, Bagley, Doncic). I could see myself taking him above some of these players.
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Post#1589 » by baca » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:02 pm

Wendell Carter also has more than 1 attempt per game and over 40% 3PT right now. He can stretch the floor and attack inside with his post moves. That is the big difference between him and Jahlil Okafor. I think he should be at least a lottery pick or even top 10 pick.
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Post#1590 » by SirChurros » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:22 pm

Carter is far more mobile than Okafor and actually can play defense, too. Wendell has gone overlooked all year long because of how great Bagley has been, but he has been tremendous.
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Post#1591 » by The-Power » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:41 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:Carter is far more mobile than Okafor and actually can play defense, too. Wendell has gone overlooked all year long because of how great Bagley has been, but he has been tremendous.

True. There's no way he drops out of the lottery if he keeps playing like that, and he has the realistic chance to climb as high as to the 7th spot on my personal Big Board.
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Post#1592 » by 916fan » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:25 pm

Kolkmania wrote:
916fan wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:Hot Take: Miles Bridges won’t be able to defend the wing in the NBA. He’ll have to try to recover a lot. His lateral movement just isn’t very good.

I disagee. He's got adequate lateral quickness on SFs. How many SFs will be able to face him up and attack Here are some of the better SFs in the game:
1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. George
4. Middleton
5. Kawhi
6. Wiggins
7. Barnes
8. Harris
9. Warren
10. Porter Jr
11. Covington
12. Ingram
13. Tatum
14. Carroll
15. Ariza

There are very few on the list who have a legitimate slashing game. Most of them are post-power players or jumpshooters. I don't see his quickness being a major problem. He balances himself out with his strength.


I personally I'm not convinced yet if Bridges will be a plus defender in the NBA, but as a wing defender in the modern NBA you have to be way more versatile than being capable of containing let's say Robert Covington. With all the heavy-switching schemes around the perimeter he'll get switched onto smaller wings as well, not sure if he can effectively guard those as well.

Teams don't switch nearly as much as you say. His defense will not be a big problem at the next level... it's puzzling that anyone would question his lateral quickness. He can guard SFs. I don't know where this notion that he's heavey footed is coming from. He would do a fine job on switches against PGs too.

He's a SF. Not a SG. He won't have to guard SGs.
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Post#1593 » by NoZoLakers » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:19 pm

any suggestions for solid role playing 3/d wings in mid 2nd rders?
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Post#1594 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:33 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:Carter is far more mobile than Okafor and actually can play defense, too. Wendell has gone overlooked all year long because of how great Bagley has been, but he has been tremendous.


Ya he and Okafor really don't have anything in common except they both played for Duke. He scores from all 3 levels, legit rim protector (consistency issues with the rest of defense though) and the dude is a beast rebounder. If he can become more consistent with his defensive reads and rotations, he can become an ideal 5 in today's NBA.
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Post#1595 » by SirChurros » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:19 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Krispy Kreme wrote:Carter is far more mobile than Okafor and actually can play defense, too. Wendell has gone overlooked all year long because of how great Bagley has been, but he has been tremendous.


Ya he and Okafor really don't have anything in common except they both played for Duke. He scores from all 3 levels, legit rim protector (consistency issues with the rest of defense though) and the dude is a beast rebounder. If he can become more consistent with his defensive reads and rotations, he can become an ideal 5 in today's NBA.


Totally agree.
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Post#1596 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:21 am

BallnIngram wrote:any suggestions for solid role playing 3/d wings in mid 2nd rders?


There are more than a couple. I think he’s more of a first round pick, but I can see him sliding into the second round. He’s going to be a steal if he falls: Khyri Thomas from Creighton. Same height and wingspan as Donovan Mitchell and one of the best wing defenders in college. He also shoots 40% from 3.

Another is LaGerald Vick from Kansas. He’s a pest on defense and he’s going to bother a lot of guys on that end. He also is a good shooter. More of a Mid-range shooter, but he has 3 point range. He’s another guy that can go lower than where he probably should go.

Dakota Mathias is another good guy. Really good shooter, hustles on defense. Not sure how much his defense will translate, but he’s someone to take a shot in the dark on.

Rawle Alkins from Arizona is a great defender, passer and slasher with athleticism that should make him be a sleeper to become really really good. If he can develop his three point shot he can become an all-star type. He has injury history and might end up a second round pick. I would take him in the first personally.

Chandler Hutchison from Boise State is a long forward who is really good at finishing around the basket and this year hes improved his three point shot (only stand-still). I’m not 100 percent sold on his defense, but he’s long and is mobile. He should be solid. Another guy that is probably a first round pick, but could slide into the second.

Tres Tinkle from Oregon State is a good three point shooter that can also post up and he’s a really good passer. I’m not completely sold on his defense, but he’s smart and tough. He has good size, but I question his lateral quickness a little.
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Post#1597 » by Rafly » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:51 am

Thoughts on Svi Mykhailiuk. Great shooter. Feel many are sleeping on him.
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Post#1598 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:38 am

Rafly wrote:Thoughts on Svi Mykhailiuk. Great shooter. Feel many are sleeping on him.


Really good shooter with good size and mobility. Definitely not star potential or anything like that, but I can see him becoming a solid rotation player. Similar to what Joe Harris has become for the Nets.
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Post#1599 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:40 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Rafly wrote:Thoughts on Svi Mykhailiuk. Great shooter. Feel many are sleeping on him.


Really good shooter with good size and mobility. Definitely not star potential or anything like that, but I can see him becoming a solid rotation player. Similar to what Joe Harris has become for the Nets.


He’s better than Joe Harris IMO. His upside is a solid starter. He’s a pretty good defender, he’s a good shooter who shoots in rhythm, can shoot in multiple ways.
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Post#1600 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:10 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Rafly wrote:Thoughts on Svi Mykhailiuk. Great shooter. Feel many are sleeping on him.


Really good shooter with good size and mobility. Definitely not star potential or anything like that, but I can see him becoming a solid rotation player. Similar to what Joe Harris has become for the Nets.


He’s better than Joe Harris IMO. His upside is a solid starter. He’s a pretty good defender, he’s a good shooter who shoots in rhythm, can shoot in multiple ways.


I agree, I think he can be better than Harris. He's bigger and is a better athlete. I think he can have a Joe Harris role on a good team. I don't think Harris is good enough for 25 minutes a game for most teams, I think Svi will be.

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