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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1581 » by Saints14 » Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:55 pm

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peZt wrote:What exactly suggests that Edey wont be able to stay on the floor in the playoffs? Have you guys actually seen him play or are you just basing your opinion on your subjective prejudice that a 7'4 big guy can not be good on defense? Just comparing him to a 6'9 Kanter who was half a foot smaller and still slower, with the worst defensive instincts of all time disqualifies you from any sort of serious discussion. How many more times do you want to embarrass yourself?

Somebody please go through this thread and expose all the self proclaimed draft experts. The most obvious thing in the world happened: A skilled 7'4 guy who dominated college for 4 years is good at Basketball. Who would have thought. Not the experts apparently

Obviously a 7’4 guy can be good on defense because we’ve all seen Wemby. Edey won’t be able to stay in front of guys who force switches and I pull him out to the perimeter.


What’s overlooked about Edey is that his size gives him huge margin for error. Not just on the perimeter, where he can be a tick slow and still be able to contest with his length, but under the basket where he can be a bit out of position or a bit off on his timing and still be a rim protecting force. Not like he’s a statue or has particularly poor timing or instincts anyways, but he doesn’t have to be exceptional at those things to be a plus defensively because of his size.

Kanter was slow, had poor instincts and was undersized on top of it. He’s not a good comp for Edey
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1582 » by Big J » Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:59 am

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peZt wrote:What exactly suggests that Edey wont be able to stay on the floor in the playoffs? Have you guys actually seen him play or are you just basing your opinion on your subjective prejudice that a 7'4 big guy can not be good on defense? Just comparing him to a 6'9 Kanter who was half a foot smaller and still slower, with the worst defensive instincts of all time disqualifies you from any sort of serious discussion. How many more times do you want to embarrass yourself?

Somebody please go through this thread and expose all the self proclaimed draft experts. The most obvious thing in the world happened: A skilled 7'4 guy who dominated college for 4 years is good at Basketball. Who would have thought. Not the experts apparently

Obviously a 7’4 guy can be good on defense because we’ve all seen Wemby. Edey won’t be able to stay in front of guys who force switches and I pull him out to the perimeter.


What’s overlooked about Edey is that his size gives him huge margin for error. Not just on the perimeter, where he can be a tick slow and still be able to contest with his length, but under the basket where he can be a bit out of position or a bit off on his timing and still be a rim protecting force. Not like he’s a statue or has particularly poor timing or instincts anyways, but he doesn’t have to be exceptional at those things to be a plus defensively because of his size.

Kanter was slow, had poor instincts and was undersized on top of it. He’s not a good comp for Edey


Edey is slow too. The idea that he’s going to be able to stay in front of guards on the perimeter is laughable.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1583 » by tester551 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:08 am

Big J wrote:Edey is slow too. The idea that he’s going to be able to stay in front of guards on the perimeter is laughable.


Same can be said for:
Nurk, Gobert, Jokic, Zubac, Valancunus, Vucevic, Adams, Love, Lopez, Drummond, Plumlee, Clingan, Poeltl, and several others.

This is a strawman argument.

No one (that I ever remember seeing) has said that he'll be able to stay in front of guards on the perimeter. His size will make it difficult for guards to shoot over & his length will allow him to make a reasonable challenge on the shot if they drive.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1585 » by MemphisX » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:55 pm

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Big J wrote:
It’s easier to double a low post guy who can’t pass than a guard who has a center isolated on him on the perimeter.



Double the 4th option on the floor? That is already a win


Not when he is a complete liability against the perimeter on the other end.


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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1586 » by JRoy » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:30 pm

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MemphisX wrote:

Double the 4th option on the floor? That is already a win


Not when he is a complete liability against the perimeter on the other end.


:lol:


Edey gets a lot of unearned hate on this board. I hoped POR would take him but we selected Clingan instead.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1587 » by CptCrunch » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:52 pm

I was wrong; Edey is way better than expected from his floor perspective.

At worst; Edey is a 20 minute a game player. Ceiling is still unknown and imo low.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1588 » by Big J » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:39 pm

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Big J wrote:
Not when he is a complete liability against the perimeter on the other end.


:lol:


Edey gets a lot of unearned hate on this board. I hoped POR would take him but we selected Clingan instead.


Clingan is infinitely better, he actually defends, and is much younger. You guys got a good one.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1589 » by JRoy » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:40 pm

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JRoy wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
:lol:


Edey gets a lot of unearned hate on this board. I hoped POR would take him but we selected Clingan instead.


Clingan is infinitely better, he actually defends, and is much younger. You guys got a good one.


Agreed that he Seems a solid prospect, disagree Clingan is infinitely better than Edey. Would have preferred Edey and hope Clingan proves me wrong.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1590 » by JMAC3 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm

I still don't think Edey ends up very scalable as a player. I think he will have 10 really good games this year for Memphis where they feature him due to injury or matchup, but still feels like Gadget player. Just feels very unlikely they are force feeding him the ball with Ja Morant on floor, so I assume they are staggered but still hard for me to see them taking shots away from Bane, JJ or even GG to have Edey post up more than a handful of times per game.

In the 2 games with Ja this preseason he had
18 mins, 3/4 6 pts, 7 boards
20 mins, 2/7 with 7 pts and 7 boards.

Games without Ja
22 mins, 2/8 10 pts, 5 boards
22 mins, 5/10 15 pts, 8 boards
19 mins, 10/15 22 pts, 9 boards

This is with JJJ playing 0 games, who will be back shortly.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1591 » by JMAC3 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:45 pm

My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1592 » by Big J » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:00 pm

JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.


And be Wiseman level on D.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1593 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:59 pm

JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.

He's slated to start, no?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1594 » by JMAC3 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:07 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.

He's slated to start, no?


Maybe until Jaren Jackson Jr is back, but I would assume JJJ and Aldama will be the starting frontcourt because they value spacing with Ja. Brandon Clarke will also get a decent amount of mins in the frontcourt this year.

He was maxing out in the Preseason without JJJ at 20 mins or so, don't think that he will exceed that in regular season.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1595 » by JMAC3 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:15 pm

If we just look at the 96 mins available per game at the 4/5 for Memphis.

JJJ - 30 mpg
Aldama- 24 mpg
Clark- 20 mpg

That would leave 22 mins for Edey+ any small ball 4 options like LaRavia, GG Jackson.

I don't think that 15 mins or so on average over the course of the season is wild.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1596 » by The Moose » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:24 pm

My guess would be somewhere between 20-24 mpg this season
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1597 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:20 am

JMAC3 wrote:
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JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.

He's slated to start, no?


Maybe until Jaren Jackson Jr is back, but I would assume JJJ and Aldama will be the starting frontcourt because they value spacing with Ja. Brandon Clarke will also get a decent amount of mins in the frontcourt this year.

He was maxing out in the Preseason without JJJ at 20 mins or so, don't think that he will exceed that in regular season.

Aldama does not seem starter quality to me at all.

I'm thinking the plan is JJJ/Edey.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1598 » by jasonxxx102 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:13 am

Edey is awful lol

I mean nobody saw that coming
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1599 » by Big J » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:42 am

jasonxxx102 wrote:Edey is awful lol

I mean nobody saw that coming

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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#1600 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:01 am

JMAC3 wrote:If we just look at the 96 mins available per game at the 4/5 for Memphis.

JJJ - 30 mpg
Aldama- 24 mpg
Clark- 20 mpg

That would leave 22 mins for Edey+ any small ball 4 options like LaRavia, GG Jackson.

I don't think that 15 mins or so on average over the course of the season is wild.


GG is out for at least 3 months
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