Has Wiggins been compared to Cory Brewer?

[Marvin Martian]

And 4 blocks.

41 pts, 8 rbs, 5 steals and 4 blocks is a ridiculous stat line, especially with very high efficiency.

Wiggins vs Embiid is certainly heating up.

Embiid has the numbers to back up his hype. Wiggins doesn't. In this new analytical NBA, GMs are leaning less towards sportscenter highlights so the chances of Wiggins being drafted before Embiid is slim to none.

Embiid is scoring ~ 10 ppg. Granted his advance stats look sexy, but at the end of the day GMs will be drafting him based on his learning curve and potential. He doesn't have traditional #1 numbers.

And how do you think his potential will be gauged? His per 40 numbers, which are on par with some of the greatest big man prospects. Wiggins per 40 numbers on the other hand, are ordinary for a wing prospect, and yet his name is casually being thrown in the same sentence as Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, and T-Mac. His numbers do not match the hype.

[Tave]

Embiid has the numbers to back up his hype. Wiggins doesn't. In this new analytical NBA, GMs are leaning less towards sportscenter highlights so the chances of Wiggins being drafted before Embiid is slim to none.

Embiid is scoring ~ 10 ppg. Granted his advance stats look sexy, but at the end of the day GMs will be drafting him based on his learning curve and potential. He doesn't have traditional #1 numbers.

And how do you think his potential will be gauged? His per 40 numbers, which are on par with some of the greatest big man prospects. Wiggins per 40 numbers on the other hand, are ordinary for a wing prospect, and yet his name is casually being thrown in the same sentence as Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, and T-Mac. His numbers do not match the hype.

Yes, Embiid's imaginary numbers where he's allowed to commit 6 fouls a game and never gets tired look pretty awesome.

[bigboi]

Embiid has the numbers to back up his hype. Wiggins doesn't. In this new analytical NBA, GMs are leaning less towards sportscenter highlights so the chances of Wiggins being drafted before Embiid is slim to none.

Embiid is scoring ~ 10 ppg. Granted his advance stats look sexy, but at the end of the day GMs will be drafting him based on his learning curve and potential. He doesn't have traditional #1 numbers.

And how do you think his potential will be gauged? His per 40 numbers, which are on par with some of the greatest big man prospects. Wiggins per 40 numbers on the other hand, are ordinary for a wing prospect, and yet his name is casually being thrown in the same sentence as Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, and T-Mac. His numbers do not match the hype.

That's why per 40 is a garbage stat. I like Embiid, but dude can barely play 25 minutes per game without fouling out. You can't use those stats if he can't stay in the game

[MiltownHawkeye]

Embiid has the numbers to back up his hype. Wiggins doesn't. In this new analytical NBA, GMs are leaning less towards sportscenter highlights so the chances of Wiggins being drafted before Embiid is slim to none.

Embiid is scoring ~ 10 ppg. Granted his advance stats look sexy, but at the end of the day GMs will be drafting him based on his learning curve and potential. He doesn't have traditional #1 numbers.

And how do you think his potential will be gauged? His per 40 numbers, which are on par with some of the greatest big man prospects. Wiggins per 40 numbers on the other hand, are ordinary for a wing prospect, and yet his name is casually being thrown in the same sentence as Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter, Kobe Bryant, and T-Mac. His numbers do not match the hype.

Yeah, just look at Kobe Bryant and T-Mac's per 40 numbers as freshmen in college!

[BoutPractice]

To put things in perspective a bit, because statistical correlations are often presented as laws of nature here...

Wiggins currently has better averages as a college freshman than Vince Carter as a junior... better averages than Paul George had playing for formidable Fresno... similar averages as sophomore Paul Pierce... and of course, better averages than a certain Michael Jordan as a freshman, among many other swingmen stars and superstars.

I'm not saying he'll be as good as any of those, but it's not an impossibility he might be (well, except for MJ. That one I'm pretty sure of ). Freshman stats are hardly a gotcha argument against anyone, especially since they're actually quite decent.

[TheHottestHand]

I see Wiggins as a rich mans jimmy butler. They're both about equal in height at 6'8 whilst still being athletic enough to play the 2. Wiggins is going to be fantastic on D, which is why I always rate him higher than the possible tweener Jabari.

[Tave]

To put things in perspective a bit, because statistical correlations are often presented as laws of nature here...

Wiggins currently has better averages as a college freshman than Vince Carter as a junior... better averages than Paul George had playing for formidable Fresno... similar averages as sophomore Paul Pierce... and of course, better averages than a certain Michael Jordan as a freshman, among many other swingmen stars and superstars.

I'm not saying he'll be as good as any of those, but it's not an impossibility he might be (well, except for MJ. That one I'm pretty sure of ). Freshman stats are hardly a gotcha argument against anyone, especially since they're actually quite decent.

People forget that most freshmen, even those who eventually have successful NBA careers, are not ready to dominate the NCAA right off the bat. Some can, and because coaches are more willing to give freshmen minutes in the modern NCAA, we see a guy like Durant or Beasley have a huge year. They are exceptions to the general rule.

The two best players drafted in the last 5 years are Griffin and Davis, IMO. Of the two, only Davis could arguably be said to have dominated his freshman year, and even then mainly on the defensive end and in terms of team success. Griffin looked good as a freshman but turned into a monster as a sophomore.

[Michael Lucky]

It's not even that, the college game doesn't favor slasher's games at all. Rose wasn't scoring anywhere near 20ppg, neither was westbrook, etc. College BBall favors shooters due to the zone D and lack of spacing, hence why you see the Morrison, McDermott, Fredette etc look great in it.

[Tave]

None of those guys came close to 20 ppg their freshman season. None scored more than Wiggins.

[Marvin Martian]

It's not even that, the college game doesn't favor slasher's games at all. Rose wasn't scoring anywhere near 20ppg, neither was westbrook, etc. College BBall favors shooters due to the zone D and lack of spacing, hence why you see the Morrison, McDermott, Fredette etc look great in it.

Rose and Westbrook are PGs. Want to know some other PGs that didn't score a lot?
CP3
Wall
Rondo
Conley
D Will

And many others.

[Michael Lucky]

Westbrook was playing the two...... Not to mention Rose and Westbrook are both shoot first guards, so really don't see your point.

[Mr Sixer]

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Cory Brewer ceiling if lucky IMO

[j-ragg]

Looked like '06 DWade there.

[Flight33]

I'd say this topic is pretty lock worthy.

[Blues]

I think the Corey Brewer comparison is a great one.

[moss_is_1]

I think the Corey Brewer comparison is a great one.

I bet Wiggins is at least as good as Corey Brewer from the get go.

I think he definitely has his flaws, but that's to be expected from a college freshman. People act like players don't improve.

[Brauer]

I said this on the General Forum thread, but WV played man to man against Kansas, which shows what we have been saying for a while now

[reanimator]

Wiggins with 30 so far LOL

[crazy_me_87]

ok.. with his play recently... nobody can tell me hes a second Harrison Barnes or Corey Brewer...

what will his haters/doubters say if he plays like the last 2 games from now on?

if he learns how to be agressive on a regular basis...

dear lord..

[reignfire]

He's quickly becoming the locked number 2 pick. No one can surpass Embiid but he's solidifying himself as the clear number 2 guy in this draft.