Jayson Tatum

CptCrunch · Post #161 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:49 am

Upperclass wrote:Tatum looks a legit 6'10 to me. He'll probably measure 6'8.5 or 6'9 without shoes

And Tatum's shoulders are fairly high and neck fairly short. Not sure if that is a bad or good thing. Look at Giles, lower shoulders, but much longer neck thus taller.

Asian Celtic · Post #162 » by **Asian Celtic** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:41 am

Tatum looks like he has some Paul Pierce skillset.

shawn_hemp · Post #163 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:04 am

paulbball wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Why though? Durant s probably a 6'11 and still plays SF. Tatum being 6'10 would still be a good SF

Durant is an outlier. Most players can't keep his physical profile and be effective. Larger SF in the league bulk up and become LeBron/Melo type players within 5 years. Another inch beyond 6'8" takes away from his SF quickness and pidgeonholes him into PF sooner in his career. I think Tatum is best played at SF.

Yeah but he is never really going to live off being quicker than other players in the NBA anyway so is him playing either PF or SF really that much different?

Kolkmania · Post #164 » by **Kolkmania** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:19 am

paulbball wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Tatum looks a legit 6'10 to me. He'll probably measure 6'8.5 or 6'9 without shoes

And Tatum's shoulders are fairly high and neck fairly short. Not sure if that is a bad or good thing. Look at Giles, lower shoulders, but much longer neck thus taller.

To me that's a good thing, a long neck and head adds inches to someone's height, but aren't that relevant. Standing reach is more important since it gives an indication of someone's potential rebounding and blocking capabilities, range to deflect passes, etc.

SirChurros · Post #165 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:14 pm

Tatum has very broad shoulders.

Look at pictures of him from high school and pictures of him now. He has added a ton to his frame and will probably only continue to. I feel like that will only benefit him more when he gets to the NBA, because he'll be able to absorb more contact. Right now, despite probably being strong enough to take contact, he tends to avoid it.

No-Man · Post #166 » by **No-Man** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:16 pm

RookieStar wrote:Why though? Durant s probably a 6'11 and still plays SF. Tatum being 6'10 would still be a good SF

Durant is incredibly better at the 4, has always been.

shawn_hemp · Post #167 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:30 pm

Yeah Tatum would ideally play PF in the NBA because that would hide the lack of explosiveness in his movements

Just because he can dunk on someone every once and a while doesn't make him explosive.

He's a very average athlete (for NBA standards), with excellent coordination and footwork with the basketball.

He's an underrated passer, and sometimes you know he was going to pass it before he got the ball because he gets rid of it so fast. He is not a black hole type of player at all

Amazing FT shooter, good at getting to the line

Whether he can hit NBA 3s is still up in the air

He's a PF that can play SF IMO. Not the other way around

SirChurros · Post #168 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:48 pm

This athleticism thing with Tatum is incredibly overblown. Goodness.

Tatum is athletic. He's not a freak a la Lebron, but come on.

No-Man · Post #169 » by **No-Man** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:03 pm

Have It All wrote:This athleticism thing with Tatum is incredibly overblown. Goodness.

Tatum is athletic. He's not a freak a la Lebron, but come on.

He struggled to throw a dunk over freaking Kennedy Meeks, he isnt athletic vertically, not at NBA levels, he is average, has other traits, but explosive pop aint one of them.

SirChurros · Post #170 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:10 pm

Fischella wrote:
Have It All wrote:This athleticism thing with Tatum is incredibly overblown. Goodness.

Tatum is athletic. He's not a freak a la Lebron, but come on.

He struggled to throw a dunk over freaking Kennedy Meeks, he isnt athletic vertically, not at NBA levels, he is average, has other traits, but explosive pop aint one of them.

Care to explain how he struggled to throw that dunk down?

The obsession with "explosive pop" in the NBA today is embarrassing. Tatum is a high-level athlete. He's not going to jump out of the gym, but to say he's an average athlete is a bit of a joke. Find me someone with his athleticism coupled with offensive skill set that has come out recently.

I'm sure those questioning his athleticism are the same people who critiqued Jabari for being an "average" athlete coming out of college. Think everyone knows what he looked like this season before getting hurt.

shawn_hemp · Post #171 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:11 pm

Have It All wrote:This athleticism thing with Tatum is incredibly overblown. Goodness.

Tatum is athletic. He's not a freak a la Lebron, but come on.

I mean, compared to me or you, yeah, he's incredibly athletic

But he will need to be able to hit jump shots consistently in the NBA for players with quicker feet to cover him more tightly which will allow him to have an easier time getting past them.

If this dude doesn't shoot well from mid range or 3 he has no shot in the NBA

As opposed to someone like Josh Jackson or Isaac who could theoretically live off just being fast break finisher / defensive specialists

shawn_hemp · Post #172 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:16 pm

Have It All wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Have It All wrote:This athleticism thing with Tatum is incredibly overblown. Goodness.

Tatum is athletic. He's not a freak a la Lebron, but come on.

He struggled to throw a dunk over freaking Kennedy Meeks, he isnt athletic vertically, not at NBA levels, he is average, has other traits, but explosive pop aint one of them.

Care to explain how he struggled to throw that dunk down?

The obsession with "explosive pop" in the NBA today is embarrassing. Tatum is a high-level athlete. He's not going to jump out of the gym, but to say he's an average athlete is a bit of a joke. Find me someone with his athleticism coupled with offensive skill set that has come out recently.

I'm sure those questioning his athleticism are the same people who critiqued Jabari for being an "average" athlete coming out of college. Think everyone knows what he looked like this season before getting hurt.

Idk, is TJ Warren a decent comparison in your opinion?

SirChurros · Post #173 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:20 pm

shawn_hemp wrote:
Have It All wrote:
Fischella wrote:He struggled to throw a dunk over freaking Kennedy Meeks, he isnt athletic vertically, not at NBA levels, he is average, has other traits, but explosive pop aint one of them.

Care to explain how he struggled to throw that dunk down?

The obsession with "explosive pop" in the NBA today is embarrassing. Tatum is a high-level athlete. He's not going to jump out of the gym, but to say he's an average athlete is a bit of a joke. Find me someone with his athleticism coupled with offensive skill set that has come out recently.

I'm sure those questioning his athleticism are the same people who critiqued Jabari for being an "average" athlete coming out of college. Think everyone knows what he looked like this season before getting hurt.

Idk, is TJ Warren a decent comparison in your opinion?

Eh, I think Tatum is much more athletic and I think he is light years better than where Warren was when it comes to a well-round offensive game.

shawn_hemp · Post #174 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:28 pm

I was going to say that Warren is slightly more athletic but not as skilled as Tatum but that is the closest comparison recently
I can find

An ACC guy who lacks elite athleticism but can still get buckets through his technical ability and can hit 3s but would prefer to shoot from mid range.

I like TJ Warren don't get me wrong, but to say that is Tatum's floor isn't that outlandish IMO.

Warren looked good this year too

Dr Positivity · Post #175 » by **Dr Positivity** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:06 pm

Tatum projects as a lot better 3pt shooter than Warren to me

Derento · Post #176 » by **Derento** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:16 pm

I've seen Tatum miss open dunks at 6'8 that's slightly worrisome.

SirChurros · Post #177 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:21 pm

Derento wrote:I've seen Tatum miss open dunks at 6'8 that's slightly worrisome.

I've seen a lot of guys in the NBA who are taller than that miss open dunks.

The-Power · Post #178 » by **The-Power** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:28 pm

Derento wrote:I've seen Tatum miss open dunks at 6'8 that's slightly worrisome.

Why is this worrisome? I mean, you know he can dunk with ease?

Arsenal · Post #179 » by **Arsenal** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:14 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Tatum projects as a lot better 3pt shooter than Warren to me

This. Tatum is going to be an excellent 3 point shooter in the NBA. Warren on the other hand will never be.

The spacing this creates is huge in today's game.

shawn_hemp · Post #180 » by **shawn_hemp** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Tatum projects as a lot better 3pt shooter than Warren to me

This. Tatum is going to be an excellent 3 point shooter in the NBA. Warren on the other hand will never be.

The spacing this creates is huge in today's game.

Are you guys basing this solely off of his FT%

That seems to be the new trend. Not saying it is wrong but to pencil Tatum in as a 3pt threat in the NBA seems a bit premature IMO and could wind up being his downfall

Ask yourself this: what happens to Tatum if he ISNT a good 3pt shooter?