Jaren Jackson Jr.

[Chi town]

Ya I dont think his strength is going to be an issue at all. Ya will there probably be an embarrassing highlight here and there when he goes up against a Drummond or Adams? Probably. I can see him kind of getting ragged dolled but ya there arent that many guys in the league that are known for their strength and I think Jackson has a solid build and is going to put on muscle pretty easily.

I'd also add that when you have Rookie Jackson going up against Drummond and Adams – assuming we're not talking about on switches here – then you're either doing something wrong or you're trying to force them out of the paint on defense fully aware that Jackson can't handle them physically at this point in his career. As I wrote, to me he's a starter at the 4 and a 5 when teams size down, not someone you start at the 5 when the big guys are on the floor and teams use the first quarter to give them some touches.

Agreed 100% on all of this. I know its not the most popular opinion and I dont say this as a negative. But I think hes going to be a prime Serge Ibaka but with a 3pt shot instead of the mid range. I think hes going to get you around 18 points, 7-9 boards and 2-2.5 blocks. He's continue to rise up my boards, I still dont see a guy that is going to be able to create his shot all that consistently, but I think hes going to be a terror in the pick n pop or hanging out in the corner.

Prime Serge is a solid comp. I’ve just never see. Ibaka dribble through his legs and then dunk on someone w his left hand.

JJJ will be a 20ppg scorer w stupid efficiency due to his 3 ball and Hugh FT rate song w his FT%.

[Duke4life831]

I'd also add that when you have Rookie Jackson going up against Drummond and Adams – assuming we're not talking about on switches here – then you're either doing something wrong or you're trying to force them out of the paint on defense fully aware that Jackson can't handle them physically at this point in his career. As I wrote, to me he's a starter at the 4 and a 5 when teams size down, not someone you start at the 5 when the big guys are on the floor and teams use the first quarter to give them some touches.

Agreed 100% on all of this. I know its not the most popular opinion and I dont say this as a negative. But I think hes going to be a prime Serge Ibaka but with a 3pt shot instead of the mid range. I think hes going to get you around 18 points, 7-9 boards and 2-2.5 blocks. He's continue to rise up my boards, I still dont see a guy that is going to be able to create his shot all that consistently, but I think hes going to be a terror in the pick n pop or hanging out in the corner.

Prime Serge is a solid comp. I’ve just never see. Ibaka dribble through his legs and then dunk on someone w his left hand.

JJJ will be a 20ppg scorer w stupid efficiency due to his 3 ball and Hugh FT rate song w his FT%.

Its one thing to do that against college opponents, but to do it against NBA level opponents is a whole different story. To me creating your shot and attacking the basket seems to be one of the hardest things for players to transfer from college to pros. I dont think JJJ taking guys off the dribble is something were going to be seeing all too often. I think more of a pick and pop/catch and shoot big is what hes probably going to end up as offensively. A very good one at that.

[RookieStar]

I'm starting to get the Serge comparison while earlier I always though of him as a KG-type(with 3pt shooting). However, how come he does not put up consistent numbers? IS the ESPN boxscore correct? He only had 11pts while NO rebound and blocks?

[nolang1]

I'm starting to get the Serge comparison while earlier I always though of him as a KG-type(with 3pt shooting). However, how come he does not put up consistent numbers? IS the ESPN boxscore correct? He only had 11pts while NO rebound and blocks?

He is young and makes dumb fouls, and as a result gets yanked from the game. Didn't seem to be on the court too much during the comeback today.

[Duke4life831]

I'm starting to get the Serge comparison while earlier I always though of him as a KG-type(with 3pt shooting). However, how come he does not put up consistent numbers? IS the ESPN boxscore correct? He only had 11pts while NO rebound and blocks?

Youngest guy in the class so you have to kind of expect games like this from time to time, theyre just bound to happen. Ive always said Serge as my comparison because I think he is going to struggle to create for himself offensively on the next level and I dont think hes the greatest rebounder. In his prime though I could see a stat line along the lines of 17/8/2 blocks. Instead of launching a bunch of 18-20 footers like prime Serge did, those long 2s would be 3pt attempts for JJJ.

[doordoor123]

Ya I dont think his strength is going to be an issue at all. Ya will there probably be an embarrassing highlight here and there when he goes up against a Drummond or Adams? Probably. I can see him kind of getting ragged dolled but ya there arent that many guys in the league that are known for their strength and I think Jackson has a solid build and is going to put on muscle pretty easily.

I'd also add that when you have Rookie Jackson going up against Drummond and Adams – assuming we're not talking about on switches here – then you're either doing something wrong or you're trying to force them out of the paint on defense fully aware that Jackson can't handle them physically at this point in his career. As I wrote, to me he's a starter at the 4 and a 5 when teams size down, not someone you start at the 5 when the big guys are on the floor and teams use the first quarter to give them some touches.

Agreed 100% on all of this. I know its not the most popular opinion and I dont say this as a negative. But I think hes going to be a prime Serge Ibaka but with a 3pt shot instead of the mid range. I think hes going to get you around 18 points, 7-9 boards and 2-2.5 blocks. He's continue to rise up my boards, I still dont see a guy that is going to be able to create his shot all that consistently, but I think hes going to be a terror in the pick n pop or hanging out in the corner.

Although I think he has more of a three point shot than 18 footers.

[Duke4life831]

I'd also add that when you have Rookie Jackson going up against Drummond and Adams – assuming we're not talking about on switches here – then you're either doing something wrong or you're trying to force them out of the paint on defense fully aware that Jackson can't handle them physically at this point in his career. As I wrote, to me he's a starter at the 4 and a 5 when teams size down, not someone you start at the 5 when the big guys are on the floor and teams use the first quarter to give them some touches.

Agreed 100% on all of this. I know its not the most popular opinion and I dont say this as a negative. But I think hes going to be a prime Serge Ibaka but with a 3pt shot instead of the mid range. I think hes going to get you around 18 points, 7-9 boards and 2-2.5 blocks. He's continue to rise up my boards, I still dont see a guy that is going to be able to create his shot all that consistently, but I think hes going to be a terror in the pick n pop or hanging out in the corner.

Although I think he has more of a three point shot than 18 footers.

Ya thats why I said Serge with a 3pt shot. Thats where the extra couple points a game boost I gave in my prediction came over Serge's 15 points a game.

[hadzi dogg]

A little something to take in consideration:

If you scaled Jaren Jacksons minutes to ~32-33 minutes a game like Bagley, Bamba, Ayton it would look like

17.1 ppg, 8.7rpg, 4.9 bpg while making 1.8 3PT per game and getting to the FT line 6 times a game. Those are some ridiculous numbers when you put it into context like that

[thamadkant]

A little something to take in consideration:

If you scaled Jaren Jacksons minutes to ~32-33 minutes a game like Bagley, Bamba, Ayton it would look like

17.1 ppg, 8.7rpg, 4.9 bpg while making 1.8 3PT per game and getting to the FT line 6 times a game. Those are some ridiculous numbers when you put it into context like that

Im a fan that he actually gets to the line... and he's aggressive to the rim.

[The-Power]

Im a fan that he actually gets to the line... and he's aggressive to the rim.

Yeah. Unsustainable FTr or not, you certainly can't say that he's afraid of contact. As one of the youngest players in College to look for contact this aggressively bodes well for the NBA. Much easier to channel your aggressiveness more productively than to have to ramp up it up at the next level.

[delfam]

So is he a tweener right now? Not strong enough to play Center in the NBA, but not quick enough or good enough shooter to cover NBA 4's (guys like Tobias Harris and Kevin Love would give him fits i think)?

I think he could end up like Lamarcus Aldridge as a skinny guy coming in that puts on weight and improves his mid range game and can player either 4 or 5. He could also end up as a guy with no position and is a mismatched against opposing 4/5's.

[SeattleJazzFan]

he's quick enough and good enough to defend NBA fours. at least in comparison to other rookies who only played one year of college.

[doordoor123]

A little something to take in consideration:

If you scaled Jaren Jacksons minutes to ~32-33 minutes a game like Bagley, Bamba, Ayton it would look like

17.1 ppg, 8.7rpg, 4.9 bpg while making 1.8 3PT per game and getting to the FT line 6 times a game. Those are some ridiculous numbers when you put it into context like that

I’m really not a fan of these kind of comparisons in terms of just adding up what his numbers would look like with more minutes. It doesn’t say anything. He’s playing against a lot of guys that are undersized, some bad players and some bad teams. NBA is also literally a different game since the NCAA has a shorter three point less, less talented players than the NBA and a longer shot clock. This is a non-story.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

His handle will be good enough to attack close outs.

[The-Power]

So is he a tweener right now?

No, he's the opposite of a tweener. He's a player with the ability to play two positions in the NBA.

[clyde21]

He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

[anthony00]

He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

he barely got the ball

[clyde21]

He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

he barely got the ball

Well, that's part of the problem. He's going to have to learn how to contribute to the game without the ball in hands, and to do a better job of fighting for position off-the-ball to make himself more available.

I don't think this changes anything in the grand scheme of things, but it was disappointing. When the top 6 guys in the draft are so close, it could be a downgrade of a few spots in the eyes of teams.

[anthony00]

He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

he barely got the ball

Well, that's part of the problem. He's going to have to learn how to contribute to the game without the ball in hands, and to do a better job of fighting for position off-the-ball to make himself more available.

I don't think this changes anything in the grand scheme of things, but it was disappointing. When the top 6 guys in the draft are so close, it could be a downgrade of a few spots in the eyes of teams.

he contributes but he picks up fouls early thats his problem and he also is not effective against a zone

[doordoor123]

He was really bad these last two games. Not sure what happened there.

he barely got the ball

Why isn’t he getting the ball though? He’s almost 7 feet tall with a 7’4 wingspan and he’s really mobile. Why wasn’t he getting the ball from rebounds? I’ll tell you why, he was bothered by the length of Syracuse and their physicality going after rebounds. The reality is that his lack of athleticism was outplayed by athletic guys with length, which is what the NBA will be like every game. I know a lot of people want to blame his games of bad rebounding on Jackson shooting threes and he’s behind the three point line, but that’s bull. He doesn’t stand by the three point line most of the game. He’s just not a good rebounder.