Bol Bol

doordoor123 · Post #161 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:22 pm

Really sad.

King Ken · Post #162 » by **King Ken** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 9:03 pm

This moves him back like I moved Caris Levert but worse because Bol is a 5. This is a weak class but Bol and Porter are in the late teens, early 20s. Hate it for Bol, he was a top 5 pick lock for me. I hate it.

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Patsfan1081 · Post #163 » by **Patsfan1081** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 10:34 pm

King Ken wrote:This moves him back like I moved Caris Levert but worse because Bol is a 5. This is a weak class but Bol and Porter are in the late teens, early 20s. Hate it for Bol, he was a top 5 pick lock for me. I hate it.

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I don't see it, he's still clearly the best center in the draft and a foot injury isn't as concerning as to what Levert went through(reinjuring the same footbagain then another surgery on the opposite leg the following year). He'll have plenty of time after rehab to show teams he's healthy. If Boston has two late lottery picks like that currently do I doubt he gets by them.

KirkHinrich · Post #164 » by **KirkHinrich** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:54 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
King Ken wrote:This moves him back like I moved Caris Levert but worse because Bol is a 5. This is a weak class but Bol and Porter are in the late teens, early 20s. Hate it for Bol, he was a top 5 pick lock for me. I hate it.

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I don't see it, he's still clearly the best center in the draft and a foot injury isn't as concerning as to what Levert went through(reinjuring the same footbagain then another surgery on the opposite leg the following year). He'll have plenty of time after rehab to show teams he's healthy. If Boston has two late lottery picks like that currently do I doubt he gets by them.

A foot injury for a 7'3" player has been more concerning historically than for a guard. I think this will hurt his stock more than if it was an upper body injury.

Post #165 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:57 pm

KirkHinrich wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:
King Ken wrote:This moves him back like I moved Caris Levert but worse because Bol is a 5. This is a weak class but Bol and Porter are in the late teens, early 20s. Hate it for Bol, he was a top 5 pick lock for me. I hate it.

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I don't see it, he's still clearly the best center in the draft and a foot injury isn't as concerning as to what Levert went through(reinjuring the same footbagain then another surgery on the opposite leg the following year). He'll have plenty of time after rehab to show teams he's healthy. If Boston has two late lottery picks like that currently do I doubt he gets by them.

A foot injury for a 7'3" player has been more concerning historically than for a guard. I think this will hurt his stock more than if it was an upper body injury.

Yup. Fair or not, you add in how he is built as well, he already had plenty of people wondering if his body would be able to hold up. Foot injury on a big lanky dude can be a big deal.

clyde21 · Post #166 » by **clyde21** » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:59 pm

Atlhawks09 wrote:

Read on Twitter

sucks, they just got King back too.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #167 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Jan 4, 2019 1:59 am

Hard to make an argument Alex Len with the same injury was a better prospect and he went 5.

Stillwater · Post #168 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Jan 5, 2019 4:16 pm

Not surprised he was the next big with foot problems really, beanpole frame etc. Hopefully for his sake this doesn't slow his ability to get stronger in the lower body, but it probably will significantly. Late lottery seems like his ceiling at this point unless he is fully recovered participates in the combine(doubtful) and has great workouts for potential suiters.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25678381/top-5-nba-prospect-bol-bol-season-oregon-enter-draft

doordoor123 · Post #169 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:15 pm

I can see this foot issue really hurting his stock, but after Embiid fell and turned out okay Im sure someone will gamble on him in the lottery. If he’s healthy he’s a possible future all-star. If not, third big on the bench. So it’s a huge risk/reward scenario.

clyde21 · Post #170 » by **clyde21** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:29 pm

I know this is gonna seem wild, but the more I watch of him the more I am reminded of Durant offensively...similar post moves, similar apex on their J, shot mechanics are similar (especially on some of the pull-up stuff).

here is an example of a post-up that looks exactly like Durant:

here it is again with the high release:

here he is putting the ball on the floor:

please note that I am not saying he is anywhere near Durant as a prospect, and he definitely isn't nearly as graceful of an athlete as KD or as quick, but just some of the length and skill/footwork in the post especially definitely reminds me of KD in some aspects.

if he can manage to stay healthy (and that's a pretty big if given his frame and length), I think he's going to be an absolute monster offensively in the NBA. i haven't seen this type of skill set of someone his size since at least Porzingis.

doordoor123 · Post #171 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:44 pm

See his stock getting killed because of his injury. Anyone know if there are any updates? If he’ll make a full recovery?

kobyz · Post #172 » by **kobyz** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:58 am

Offensively he reminds me Pau gasol without the passing...

patman52 · Post #173 » by **patman52** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:45 am

not being able to touch the guy when you play defense is going to help him.

clyde21 · Post #174 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:02 pm

kobyz wrote:Offensively he reminds me Pau gasol without the passing...

interesting, I don't quite remember young Gasol so i'll go take a look at some of his vids...

btw mods...looks like there actually is already a Bol Bol thread that I couldn't find...u can go ahead and merge this with that if needed.

Ball4life32 · Post #175 » by **Ball4life32** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:07 pm

How do y’all see him defensively at the next level? I think he needs to get stronger and improve his awareness but I always thought he could develop into a good defender.

But I’ve also seen a lot people that think he is awful defensively.

doordoor123 · Post #176 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:34 pm

Hey mods, can you combine this with the other thread? This thread shouldn’t have been made.

clyde21 · Post #177 » by **clyde21** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:47 pm

Atlhawks09 wrote:How do y’all see him defensively at the next level? I think he needs to get stronger and improve his awareness but I always thought he could develop into a good defender.

But I’ve also seen a lot people that think he is awful defensively.

not awful defensively but agains we don't have a great sample size to work with.

his shot blocking rate is elite by virtue of his length and timing but I think he'll struggle a bit in the ball against the stronger 'bully' types like Julius Randle.

where is value is gonna come in tho defensively is in rim protection and help defense more so than on-ball post D.

Nathan2331 · Post #178 » by **Nathan2331** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:39 am

Atlhawks09 wrote:How do y’all see him defensively at the next level? I think he needs to get stronger and improve his awareness but I always thought he could develop into a good defender.

But I’ve also seen a lot people that think he is awful defensively.

With his length and ability to move at his height, he can become about as good as Gobert if he puts the work in. Strength his most glaring weakness, but with time he can get strong enough to hold his own. His ability to contest and deter shots can cover up a lot of issues if he puts in the effort on every play.

clyde21 · Post #179 » by **clyde21** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:49 am

Nathan2331 wrote:
Atlhawks09 wrote:How do y’all see him defensively at the next level? I think he needs to get stronger and improve his awareness but I always thought he could develop into a good defender.

But I’ve also seen a lot people that think he is awful defensively.
With his length and ability to move at his height, he can become about as good as Gobert if he puts the work in. Strength his most glaring weakness, but with time he can get strong enough to hold his own. His ability to contest and deter shots can cover up a lot of issues if he puts in the effort on every play.

Gobert? definitely wouldn't go that far. doesn't have Gobert's frame or strength.

might be as good of a shot blocker but definitely won't be as good of a post defender.

Nathan2331 · Post #180 » by **Nathan2331** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:55 am

clyde21 wrote:
Nathan2331 wrote:
Atlhawks09 wrote:How do y’all see him defensively at the next level? I think he needs to get stronger and improve his awareness but I always thought he could develop into a good defender.

But I’ve also seen a lot people that think he is awful defensively.
With his length and ability to move at his height, he can become about as good as Gobert if he puts the work in. Strength his most glaring weakness, but with time he can get strong enough to hold his own. His ability to contest and deter shots can cover up a lot of issues if he puts in the effort on every play.

Gobert? definitely wouldn't go that far. doesn't have Gobert's frame or strength.

might be as good of a shot blocker but definitely won't be as good of a post defender.

I agree that Bol won't put on that much weight to match Gobert, but I think he can get strong enough that he won't get bullied in the post. His length will complicate shots no matter what, and so long as he doesn't get targeted, he can be effective everywhere else he needs to be as a center. Bully ball isn't extinct yet, but I don't think it's a big enough issue to write Bol off like I've seen others do.

All that being said, a comparison to Gobert is probably hyperbolic. That's just who he resembles as far as his length and movement is concerned.