2019 Draft Class - Part 2

[Coeur]

Matisse Thybulle or whoever falls. Hard to guess who without knowing how the draft shapes up.

That would be a good pick. I think that range will be the sweet spot for SG’s and the PF’s maybe?


I’m really thinking a big part of picks 8-22 will be the group of bigs. Goga/Bolbol/Hayes/claxton/kabegele all go before 23

Herro goes before 23. Rui/Clarke/Doumboya all gone.

Maybe Grant Williams falls? People seem high on him though I don't know if you guys recommend a different player due to fit/upset/whatever. Quickly looking at Thybulle, he sounds like he'd be a good fit next to Ja on the defensive end.

SI has us taking Kabegele in their updated mock draft. I know nothing about him though.

Appreciate the responses guys!

Id think grant Williams will be there at 23 but I don’t like him as a pick for you there. I don’t think he’s going to be a starter. And you’re too far away to try for the perfect role players.

The 2 guys I think of as super high ceiling players that would fit memphis are KZ Okpala and Louis the King. I’d also like the guy from Yale later in the draft too

[No-Man]

Why isn't Jordan Caroline being considered as a draftable talent?

Trash on defense, like utter garbage

[Roddy B for 3]

so you make one wrong assumption, but then double down by making yet another assumption?

NAW barely made 3rd team all conference, he was a lot closer to 4th team than 2nd team. His play definitely got worse once conference play started. There is no way he deserved to be listed amongst the top 10 players in the ACC, not even close.

Blackshear
Guy
Hunter
Jerome
Cam Johnson
Zion
RJ
Coby White
May
Nwora
Bowman
Reed
Battle

That's 13 players right there who inarguably had better years than NAW.

you

Like May is not a better basketball player than NAW.

I don't even think you think that.

Which if the two do you have higher in your big board?

how does that have anything to do with who was the better player this year????

Your joking, right?

*Luke May is not a better basketball player than NAW, then I said "I don't even think you think that".
Then I said "*Which of the two do you have higher on your big board?"

If you think Luke May is a better basketball player than NAW wouldn't it stand to reason he'd be higher on your big board?

[shakes0]

you

Like May is not a better basketball player than NAW.

I don't even think you think that.

Which if the two do you have higher in your big board?

how does that have anything to do with who was the better player this year????

Your joking, right?

*Luke May is not a better basketball player than NAW, then I said "I don't even think you think that".
Then I said "*Which of the two do you have higher on your big board?"

If you think Luke May is a better basketball player than NAW wouldn't it stand to reason he'd be higher on your big board?

Stop trying to move the goalposts. Here is what you said...

NAW is 6'6" with a 6'9" wingspan who was one of the unquestionable 10 best players in the best college conference


I responded by accurately pointing out that NAW was clearly not one of the 10 best players in the ACC this year. You responded by asking about my big board. Big board/draft prospect has nothing to do with your quote above. You wrote that NAW was a a top 5-10 player in the ACC this year. He wasn't. Not even close.


If you honestly think that ranking a player in college vs ranking players' by draft prospects are the same thing that's a pretty big logical disconnect on your part. Let's use your own example. Luke Maye was better this year than not only NAW, but also Cam Reddish. Both of those guys are much higher rated pro prospects, but it's inarguable that Maye was the better player this year. This isn't rocket science.

[Roddy B for 3]

HOw was NAW unquestionably one of the 10 best players in the ACC when he didn't even make 1st or 2nd team all conference? He was arguably only the 3rd best player on his own team behind Blackshear and a healthy Robinson. And it's not like he was close to being 2nd team all ACC, there were 3 players on the 3rd team who had much more votes than NAW. He was closer to 4th team than he was to 2nd team.

I made an assumption there. Even as I wrote it I regretted it. I just didn't want to delete my entire collum because of one work being wrong.

I don't know all the players on the allACC teams, but I'm very confident NAW should have been 1st or 2nd team.

so you make one wrong assumption, but then double down by making yet another assumption?

NAW barely made 3rd team all conference, he was a lot closer to 4th team than 2nd team. His play definitely got worse once conference play started. There is no way he deserved to be listed amongst the top 10 players in the ACC, not even close.

Blackshear
Guy
Hunter
Jerome
Cam Johnson
Zion
RJ
Coby White
May
Nwora
Bowman
Reed
Battle

That's 13 players right there who inarguably had better years than NAW.

I think I can "argue" NAW had a better year than several of those guys.

[Roddy B for 3]

I've moved Miye Oni to #7 on my board

[clyde21]

last night's draft was complete chaos, im still trying to compute what happened.

[clyde21]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

[No-Man]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

[Roddy B for 3]

Does anyone have a link to where all the players went post trades?

Nba.com shows the picks but, not all of the traded picks are shown.

[clyde21]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

i literally just grabbed the first list I saw on twitter, didnt really put much thought. this is probably a list of the most familiar names.

[Roddy B for 3]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

How about instead of being negative on someone else's list you provide your own?

Let's see a list of "20 or so interesting udfas" from you before you discredit someone else's?

Then I will tell you which names on your list are "not all that good"?

Does that sound fun to you?

[Funcrusher]

last night's draft was complete chaos, im still trying to compute what happened.

literally after the first three picks everything on my board was wrong

[peZt]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

How about instead of being negative on someone else's list you provide your own?

Let's see a list of "20 or so interesting udfas" from you before you discredit someone else's?

Then I will tell you which names on your list are "not all that good"?

Does that sound fun to you?

It's Fishella. He get's off on being negative towards others and acting like the smartest guy in the room.

[clyde21]

so Jontay still hasn't been signed as a UDFA...medicals that bad?

[nolang1]

i don't remember seeing so many notable guys go undrafted:

Jaylen Hoard
Dedric Lawson
Naz Reid
Jared Harper
Brian Bowen
Luguentz Dort
Shamorie Ponds
Ethan Happ
Dean Wade
Tacko Fall
Kris Wilkes
Juwan Morgan
Louis King
Tyus Battle
Justin Robinson
Ky Bowman
Zach Norvell Jr
Charles Matthews
Corey Davis Jr
Terence Davis
Jalen Lecque

sheesh.

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

How about instead of being negative on someone else's list you provide your own?

Let's see a list of "20 or so interesting udfas" from you before you discredit someone else's?

Then I will tell you which names on your list are "not all that good"?

Does that sound fun to you?

I think in any event I'd ease up on saying there are 20+ "interesting" undrafted players when there are like 3 second round picks a year who become NBA players.

[clyde21]

These ones are all not good and have no path to be good

There are like 20 or so interesting udfas, but this ain't it

How about instead of being negative on someone else's list you provide your own?

Let's see a list of "20 or so interesting udfas" from you before you discredit someone else's?

Then I will tell you which names on your list are "not all that good"?

Does that sound fun to you?

I think in any event I'd ease up on saying there are 20+ "interesting" undrafted players when there are like 3 second round picks a year who become NBA players.

Everyone is already aware that most of these guys won't amount to much, this isn't earth shattering stuff

[nolang1]

How about instead of being negative on someone else's list you provide your own?

Let's see a list of "20 or so interesting udfas" from you before you discredit someone else's?

Then I will tell you which names on your list are "not all that good"?

Does that sound fun to you?

I think in any event I'd ease up on saying there are 20+ "interesting" undrafted players when there are like 3 second round picks a year who become NBA players.

Everyone is already aware that most of these guys won't amount to much, this isn't earth shattering stuff

I'm not so sure about that; if there are multiple massive discrepancies to the point where you have like 10 undrafted players you think are more likely than not to make an NBA roster, you might want to recalibrate your expectations as far as how much the jump in competition from college to the NBA really is.

[clyde21]

people really underrated Herro's ability to create and run offense, ran point for the Heat tonight, was a game high +31, ended up with 18-3-4-1.

other guys:

Weatherspoon: 13/3/2, +8

Samanic: 11/7/2 with 1 stl and 2 blocks, +3

Windler: 19/6/3 with 3 stls, +14

Wade: 14/6/2 with 3 steals and 1 block, +4

[Eskobar13]

Lol c'mon Clyde, really?

You are way better than that dude.