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pad300 wrote:Does Scottie Barnes really carry enough scoring threat to play at the 1 in the NBA? Teams will happily drop back to contain the drive and say, "Get yours, and we'll see if you can beat us..."
The-Power wrote:pad300 wrote:Does Scottie Barnes really carry enough scoring threat to play at the 1 in the NBA? Teams will happily drop back to contain the drive and say, "Get yours, and we'll see if you can beat us..."
Yeah, all that Scottie Barnes as a true PG talk is something I don't understand at all. Especially not after we have just seen Ben Simmons' struggles (worse shooter but better passer). Barnes is best suited to play in the Draymond-role, imo.
Charm wrote:The-Power wrote:pad300 wrote:Does Scottie Barnes really carry enough scoring threat to play at the 1 in the NBA? Teams will happily drop back to contain the drive and say, "Get yours, and we'll see if you can beat us..."
Yeah, all that Scottie Barnes as a true PG talk is something I don't understand at all. Especially not after we have just seen Ben Simmons' struggles (worse shooter but better passer). Barnes is best suited to play in the Draymond-role, imo.
Simmons at LSU: 7.5 assists, 5.3 turnovers per 100
Barnes at FSU: 9.4 assists, 5.7 turnovers per 100
I dunno how you say Barnes is a worse passer than Simmons was coming out of college...he's better statistically, and the film's pretty impressive too. If you think he has any kind of shooting potential he should easily be in your top-5.
SNPA wrote:Charm wrote:The-Power wrote:Yeah, all that Scottie Barnes as a true PG talk is something I don't understand at all. Especially not after we have just seen Ben Simmons' struggles (worse shooter but better passer). Barnes is best suited to play in the Draymond-role, imo.
Simmons at LSU: 7.5 assists, 5.3 turnovers per 100
Barnes at FSU: 9.4 assists, 5.7 turnovers per 100
I dunno how you say Barnes is a worse passer than Simmons was coming out of college...he's better statistically, and the film's pretty impressive too. If you think he has any kind of shooting potential he should easily be in your top-5.
He will be best as a small ball 5 at the end of games.
doordoor123 wrote:One of the best, if not THE BEST, combines Ive ever seen. This draft is so loaded. Teams in the late 20s are going to get players that could potentially be all-stars in the future. Its kind of insane how much potential and skill is in this draft.
Silver lining on OKC missing out on the top 5.doordoor123 wrote:One of the best, if not THE BEST, combines Ive ever seen. This draft is so loaded. Teams in the late 20s are going to get players that could potentially be all-stars in the future. Its kind of insane how much potential and skill is in this draft.
DCasey91 wrote:Barnes really is Green 2.0 like they do that Draymond comp with anyone that’s similar.
But Barnes really is Draymond Green.
Duke4life831 wrote:I know Im probably late to talk about this but just saw the measurements from the combine.
Jalen Johnson with the biggest hands in the draft, a legit 6'9 and a wingspan of 7'. Ive been critical on him this past year, but damn those measurements sure do look good. His size with his ease of bounce, boy if the dude can get an ego check and get put into his place. I would be tempted to take him 6th in this draft. The dude was completely misused on the offensive end at Duke and I think he showed a ton of potential as a 4 and small ball 5 defender.
Also If my team is in the late teens or early 20s, Id be all over Scottie Lewis. Freak athlete in every sense of the word, great hops, great first step, fantastic overall agility, and throw in a legit 7 foot wingspan. Ya Im taking him in the teens or twenties with the thought process of at minimum he can be an elite wing defender and he has plenty of potential to become a damn good 3&D wing and with that athleticism, maybe a little more.
clyde21 wrote:DCasey91 wrote:Barnes really is Green 2.0 like they do that Draymond comp with anyone that’s similar.
But Barnes really is Draymond Green.
its hard to say because of a lot of what makes Dray Dray is in between the ears, just one of the highest BBIQs ive ever seen in the NBA on both sides of the ball
i def get the comp, and if there is anyone u can compare to Dray its Scottie Barnes, but the BBIQ is a wait and see for me, but yea, i definitely see it in almost other aspects, Barnes has the athletic edge obviously so maybe that would make up for discrepancy in BBIQ (not that i'm saying Barnes isn't a smart player, but Dray is historic in that sense).
Catchall wrote:As is often the case, I think some of the Euros are being underscouted and underrated. Roko, Vrenz and Petrusev should all have a pretty comfortable 1st-round grade.
clyde21 wrote:updated bb...should be pretty close to final at this pointSpoiler:
Upperclass wrote:clyde21 wrote:updated bb...should be pretty close to final at this pointSpoiler:
T1
1 Jalen Green
2 Evan Mobley
3 Jalen Suggs
4 Josh Christopher
T2
5 Scottie Barnes
6 James Bouknight
7 Davion Mitchell
8 Jonathan Kuminga
9 Nas Hyland
T3
10 Keon Johnson
11 Cade Cunningham
12 Corey Kispert
13 Ziaire Williams
14 Franz Wagner
15 Cam Thomas
16 Moses Moody
17 Josh Giddey
18 Usman Garuba
19 Jalen Johnson
20 Roko Prkacin
T4
21 Kai Jones
22 Johnny Juzang
23 Jaden Springer
24 Chris Duarte
25 Joel Ayayi
26 Alperen Sengun
27 John Petty
28 Daishen Nix
T5
29 Tre Mann
30 Miles McBride
31 Ayo Dosunmu
32 Greg Brown
33 D Duke
34 Yves Pons
35 Charles Bassey
6
7
8
9
10
11
12 Brandon Boston Jr.
13
14
T4
15
16 Sharife Cooper
17 Jared Butler
18 Isaiah Jackson
19 Kai Jones
20
21 Scottie Lewis
22 Trendon Watford
23
24 JT Thor
25 Roko Prkacin
26 Joe Wieskamp
