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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1601 » by Big J » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:15 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:Chet and KP have some dramatic differences on offense. KP has become a ball stopper and is a poor passer who oftentimes doesnt score in the flow of the game. Chet moves the ball quickly, is opportunistic and cuts to the basket hard.

The closest body type to Chet isnt KP, its Durant IMO. He isnt as aggressive, talented or wing oriented but he moves alot like KD.

I think he is some odd lovechild of KD and Myles Turner to be honest, even if there are tons of ways to pick that comp apart lol


I've now seen both Chet and Jabari Smith compared to Kevin Durant. Jabari Smith physically compares favorably to former #1 overall pick Joe Smith.


Jabari is more similar to Bias than KD or Joe Smith. Joe Smith's game was incredibly dull.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1602 » by Big J » Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:58 pm

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Big J wrote:Hypothetical question for you guys, what kind of numbers would Poku be putting up at Gonzaga if he were swapped with Chet?


not that great. poku is bad at basketball. college players, especially in the wcc, aren't very good, but they do play tough defense and make you work. poku would be fun to watch in an all star game - but play defense on him, he can't do anything. poku would be a 4 year kid that tantalizes and times and disappears many other times.


So Poku would be trash, but Drew Timme who won’t even get drafted feasts on them? Lol, that makes sense.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1603 » by SeattleJazzFan » Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:00 pm

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Big J wrote:Hypothetical question for you guys, what kind of numbers would Poku be putting up at Gonzaga if he were swapped with Chet?


not that great. poku is bad at basketball. college players, especially in the wcc, aren't very good, but they do play tough defense and make you work. poku would be fun to watch in an all star game - but play defense on him, he can't do anything. poku would be a 4 year kid that tantalizes and times and disappears many other times.


So Poku would be trash, but Drew Timme who won’t even get drafted feasts on them? Lol, that makes sense.


drew timme is a better basketball player than poku. if poku ever gives up on the nba, he will go over to europe and while timme is dominating, poku will be coming off the bench.
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Post#1604 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:23 am

Can Gonzaga leave the WCC already and join a legit conference? Im tired of watching them play these scrub teams all conference long every year.
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Post#1605 » by The Moose » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:37 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Can Gonzaga leave the WCC already and join a legit conference? Im tired of watching them play these scrub teams all conference long every year.


San Francisco is #25 in kenpom national rankings, they definitely aren’t that much of a scrub team. They don’t have the athletes of some of the major conference teams, but they are still pretty legit
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1606 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:45 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:Can Gonzaga leave the WCC already and join a legit conference? Im tired of watching them play these scrub teams all conference long every year.


San Francisco is #25 in kenpom national rankings, they definitely aren’t that much of a scrub team. They don’t have the athletes of some of the major conference teams, but they are still pretty legit

I get Kenpom does its best to adjust for strength of schedule. But San Fran isnt a good team. Who is the best team that they've beat? Davidson on the 3rd game of the year? They just haven't played anyone this year. There is a massive lack of athleticism with them and Shabazz is just a reckless guard. That team is bottom 3rd in pretty much any power conference.

Also to be clear, this isnt me bashing Gonzaga. I think they deserve the #1 ranking right now, they are a legit elite top tier team. But its just so frustrating watching them play in this conference as a college basketball fan. This team is too good every year to play in this conference.
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Post#1607 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:04 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:Can Gonzaga leave the WCC already and join a legit conference? Im tired of watching them play these scrub teams all conference long every year.


San Francisco is #25 in kenpom national rankings, they definitely aren’t that much of a scrub team. They don’t have the athletes of some of the major conference teams, but they are still pretty legit

I get Kenpom does its best to adjust for strength of schedule. But San Fran isnt a good team. Who is the best team that they've beat? Davidson on the 3rd game of the year? They just haven't played anyone this year. There is a massive lack of athleticism with them and Shabazz is just a reckless guard. That team is bottom 3rd in pretty much any power conference.

Also to be clear, this isnt me bashing Gonzaga. I think they deserve the #1 ranking right now, they are a legit elite top tier team. But its just so frustrating watching them play in this conference as a college basketball fan. This team is too good every year to play in this conference.


One of the reasons it's becoming harder for me the follow the college season until the conf tourney starts. The ACC is way down once again, it was once the premier league no question.
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Post#1608 » by clyde21 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:01 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:Can Gonzaga leave the WCC already and join a legit conference? Im tired of watching them play these scrub teams all conference long every year.


San Francisco is #25 in kenpom national rankings, they definitely aren’t that much of a scrub team. They don’t have the athletes of some of the major conference teams, but they are still pretty legit

I get Kenpom does its best to adjust for strength of schedule. But San Fran isnt a good team. Who is the best team that they've beat? Davidson on the 3rd game of the year? They just haven't played anyone this year. There is a massive lack of athleticism with them and Shabazz is just a reckless guard. That team is bottom 3rd in pretty much any power conference.

Also to be clear, this isnt me bashing Gonzaga. I think they deserve the #1 ranking right now, they are a legit elite top tier team. But its just so frustrating watching them play in this conference as a college basketball fan. This team is too good every year to play in this conference.


college has major scheduling problems, half the season is completely useless, if not the majority of it, in terms of competition.

this is why im always partial to SEC prospects, and another reason why I like Bari better than anyone else, even the worst SEC teams I know have good athletes at least.
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Post#1609 » by Kobblehead » Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:08 pm

Saint Mary's and BYU are quality programs. You could always look forward to games against those teams for a good evaluation.

Massalski is a really good rim protector for San Fran. So if Chet had some nice buckets in the paint last night, that's a good look.
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Post#1610 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:32 pm

Chet is pulling away.

The worst things you can say about him are he might get injured and he is skinny. There really isnt a part of his game that is an issue, on the floor. And KD was like 190lbs coming in and couldnt bench the bar basically.

Chet is transcendent, dude is the type that could come into a team that is 25th in defense and push them to top 10 as a rookie.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1611 » by SeattleJazzFan » Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:12 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Chet is pulling away.

The worst things you can say about him are he might get injured and he is skinny. There really isnt a part of his game that is an issue, on the floor. And KD was like 190lbs coming in and couldnt bench the bar basically.

Chet is transcendent, dude is the type that could come into a team that is 25th in defense and push them to top 10 as a rookie.


yeah, kd couldn't bench 185. and frankly KD might be the best comp for chet right now. they aren't the exact same of course, but in terms of physical characteristics and some skillset stuff, i'm not sure there is a better comp than KD.

KD was more of a pure scorer and more athletic (i think) and Chet is obviously the superior rim protector - more of a 5 in college in that sense, but again, i'm not sure there's a better comparison at this point.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1612 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:45 pm

Chet is doing things that I can't recall seeing. He blocked a guy's shot around the rim with two hands and immediately turned it into an outlet pass assist. People drool over big men for making that same play off the rebound. Chet made it off the block. That is one of the more rare replicable plays in the game. Tim Duncan was accredited with understanding the value of not blocking a shot out of bounds so that your team has an opportunity for a fastbreak if they recover the block. Chet at this young age is hunting the opportunity himself.
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Post#1613 » by GSWFan1994 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:59 pm

"Dean on Draft" with an interesting article on this draft: link

Sorry if it was posted before, have not checked the previous 4/5 pages of this thread.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1614 » by WargamesX » Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:38 am

GSWFan1994 wrote:"Dean on Draft" with an interesting article on this draft: link

Sorry if it was posted before, have not checked the previous 4/5 pages of this thread.


The finer points are right. Especially on some players being out of range, but its still early so mocks tend to over and under hype guys. I don’t think this draft is a dud or even noticeably shallow. It’s just coming off of two very good draft years and wedged between that and the potential double draft next year.

I don’t think this year will be worst than say 16, 17, or 19.
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Post#1615 » by DirtyDez » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:59 pm

Sorry to be weird draft frame guy but Benn’s muscle tone…

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1616 » by Big J » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:13 am

GSWFan1994 wrote:"Dean on Draft" with an interesting article on this draft: link

Sorry if it was posted before, have not checked the previous 4/5 pages of this thread.


Dean knows his ****. He pretty much nailed last years draft.
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Post#1617 » by MotownMadness » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:15 am

DirtyDez wrote:Sorry to be weird draft frame guy but Benn’s muscle tone…

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His leg muscles are about to overlap his knees
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Post#1618 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:17 am

So this kid Graham Ike at Wyoming. 6'9 250. He's like a SF/PF. No one is really talking about him but he is having a Kawhi-like leap in his sophomore season. I am not sure if he comes out, but he is from a family of professional athletes (football players), has huge hands and is dominating the Mountain West. In fact, they have at least 3 tourney teams this year (Wyoming, Colorado State and Boise) and possibly could get 4 (San Diego State).

Anyone else seen this kid? I read an article that talked him up earlier in the week and then just checked out him destroying Nevada. MWC produces some NBA talent from time to time (Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Larry Nance Jr. Neeimas Queta, Malachi Flynn, Christian Wood).
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1619 » by Big J » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:06 am

Chet’s inability to take the bull by the horns is quite worrisome. Biggest game of his life and he’s shooting 2-2 with 4 points while he watches Timme bomb away brick after brick. The number 1 pick needs to be an alpha, not a beta.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1620 » by CptCrunch » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:59 am

Big J wrote:
GSWFan1994 wrote:"Dean on Draft" with an interesting article on this draft: link

Sorry if it was posted before, have not checked the previous 4/5 pages of this thread.


Dean knows his ****. He pretty much nailed last years draft.


He mostly nails it basically every year, way better projections against the grain than main stream analysts. Of course he misses as does everyone, but he has called out numerous overrated prospects (Wiggins, Cade) and stanned for mega studs (Mobley, Luka, Embiid).

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