2023 NBA Draft

[codydaze]

Anyone have an idea of whether or not Bilal Coulibaly declares this year? I like him as a target in the late first for the Kings but I've been reading he could go lotto in 2024 if he doesn't enter the draft this year.

[clyde21]

pre march madness update

1 Victor Wembanyama

2 Scoot Henderson
3 Anthony Black

4 Keyonte George
5 Brandon Miller
6 Nick Smith Jr.
7 Jarace Walker
8 GG Jackson
9 Gradey Dick
10 Taylor Hendricks

11 Cam Whitmore
12 Ausar Thompson
13 Amen Thompson
14 Judah Mintz
15 Jordan Hawkins
16 Rayan Rupert
17 Ricky Council
18 Cason Wallace
19 Kyle Filipowski
20 Trey Alexander

[Capn'O]

pre march madness update

1 Victor Wembanyama

2 Scoot Henderson
3 Anthony Black

4 Keyonte George
5 Brandon Miller
6 Nick Smith Jr.
7 Jarace Walker
8 GG Jackson
9 Gradey Dick
10 Taylor Hendricks

11 Cam Whitmore
12 Ausar Thompson
13 Amen Thompson
14 Judah Mintz
15 Jordan Hawkins
16 Rayan Rupert
17 Ricky Council
18 Cason Wallace
19 Kyle Filipowski
20 Trey Alexander

Not a JHS truther?

[clyde21]

JHS is fine me but lacking that extra gear/athleticism and it's a deep class, i currently have him returning but we'll see what happens

[Braggins]

I think this draft is pretty good, but it seems volatile. I could see there being an unusually high number of bad busts towards the top of the draft.

[The-Power]

I think this draft is pretty good, but it seems volatile. I could see there being an unusually high number of bad busts towards the top of the draft.

I'd say that depends on who you rank at the top of the draft. There are a bunch of pretty ‘safe’ options early in the lottery who have a comparatively low chance of busting. Brandon Miller in particular, but also Jarace Walker, Taylor Hendricks and Anthony Black project to be pretty solid NBA players at the very minimum I'd say. But if you're someone who ranks the Thompson twins, GG Jackson, Nick Smith, Cam Whitmore or even Keyonte George very high then I'd agree that the level of uncertainty is fairly great and you bank on strong development.

[big-shot-ROB]

pre march madness update

1 Victor Wembanyama

2 Scoot Henderson
3 Anthony Black

4 Keyonte George
5 Brandon Miller
6 Nick Smith Jr.
7 Jarace Walker
8 GG Jackson
9 Gradey Dick
10 Taylor Hendricks

11 Cam Whitmore
12 Ausar Thompson
13 Amen Thompson
14 Judah Mintz
15 Jordan Hawkins
16 Rayan Rupert
17 Ricky Council
18 Cason Wallace
19 Kyle Filipowski
20 Trey Alexander

I expected you to have GG higher. You seem very confident in his raw potential. What are some of the reasons that make you rank him at 8? Or in another way, what do you see in the other prospects, specially Keyonte Walker and Smith that make them better prospects? Juts curious

[reanimator]

Bufkin is such a talented shotmaker and does it so economically.

[clyde21]

pre march madness update

1 Victor Wembanyama

2 Scoot Henderson
3 Anthony Black

4 Keyonte George
5 Brandon Miller
6 Nick Smith Jr.
7 Jarace Walker
8 GG Jackson
9 Gradey Dick
10 Taylor Hendricks

11 Cam Whitmore
12 Ausar Thompson
13 Amen Thompson
14 Judah Mintz
15 Jordan Hawkins
16 Rayan Rupert
17 Ricky Council
18 Cason Wallace
19 Kyle Filipowski
20 Trey Alexander

I expected you to have GG higher. You seem very confident in his raw potential. What are some of the reasons that make you rank him at 8? Or in another way, what do you see in the other prospects, specially Keyonte Walker and Smith that make them better prospects? Juts curious

I had him 4th at one point but then I thought about where I had Kuminga in the 21 draft who's in some capacity a similar prospect and I had him 8th (in a stronger draft), so that seemed to be a bit more fair based on historical precedence - also some guys just moving up for me, namely Miller who's been an absolute tear in conference play and it's hard to ignore even tho I still have some questions.

also these guys are all in the same tier for me, so there isn't that much separating them. I have Keyonte/NSJ higher because they are creators, and Walker is essentially a toss up with GG, he's a bit safer choice tho with more playmaking juice.

but yea, I love GG's value proposition even if he reaches his median outcome at that point. i'd take that bet as a GM and not really lose sleep ever it, even if I pass on a couple of decent role players in the process.

[Braggins]

pre march madness update

1 Victor Wembanyama

2 Scoot Henderson
3 Anthony Black

4 Keyonte George
5 Brandon Miller
6 Nick Smith Jr.
7 Jarace Walker
8 GG Jackson
9 Gradey Dick
10 Taylor Hendricks

11 Cam Whitmore
12 Ausar Thompson
13 Amen Thompson
14 Judah Mintz
15 Jordan Hawkins
16 Rayan Rupert
17 Ricky Council
18 Cason Wallace
19 Kyle Filipowski
20 Trey Alexander

Your top 15 is similar to mine, except I have Keyonte George a few spots lower and Nick Smith Jr way lower (not in my top 15).

[bravor]

Anyone have an idea of whether or not Bilal Coulibaly declares this year? I like him as a target in the late first for the Kings but I've been reading he could go lotto in 2024 if he doesn't enter the draft this year.

We still don't have any feedback here, but he should stay one more year. It kinda depends on how he will be ranked (no way he will declare if he is not a locked 1st rounder) and how his team will evolve (last year they were supposed to merge with another parisian team and 'disappear').

His current coach is our nt coach and he is the one who had Batum drafted (who was a lottery pick back in the days at 18 but he accepted to stay one more year with Le Mans). So, depending on his team's future, i would think he stays one more year and become the Levallois new project after Victor.

knowing he's more of an on ball defender/help defender that can hit the open shots and score in transition right now.
But his potential is really awesome if he could develop a solid offense (he has great fundamentals) even though at best he would be Mykal Bridges prototype (we will see how he bulks up).
Another point is that his generation will play the U19 this summer and he should be one of the leader.

In your (potential) range, Cissoko would not be a bad choice imo. He has nba body already (or almost) and the defensive mindset to complement your roster. Even though he won't probably be the player i hope he could become (some G. Hill prototype).

[codydaze]

Anyone have an idea of whether or not Bilal Coulibaly declares this year? I like him as a target in the late first for the Kings but I've been reading he could go lotto in 2024 if he doesn't enter the draft this year.

We still don't have any feedback here, but he should stay one more year. It kinda depends on how he will be ranked (no way he will declare if he is not a locked 1st rounder) and how his team will evolve (last year they were supposed to merge with another parisian team and 'disappear').

His current coach is our nt coach and he is the one who had Batum drafted (who was a lottery pick back in the days at 18 but he accepted to stay one more year with Le Mans). So, depending on his team's future, i would think he stays one more year and become the Levallois new project after Victor.

knowing he's more of an on ball defender/help defender that can hit the open shots and score in transition right now.
But his potential is really awesome if he could develop a solid offense (he has great fundamentals) even though at best he would be Mykal Bridges prototype (we will see how he bulks up).
Another point is that his generation will play the U19 this summer and he should be one of the leader.

In your (potential) range, Cissoko would not be a bad choice imo. He has nba body already (or almost) and the defensive mindset to complement your roster. Even though he won't probably be the player i hope he could become (some G. Hill prototype).

Good insight, I appreciate it. I'll have to take a look at Cissoko and watch some tape.

[The-Power]

I've grown to like Leonard Miller more and more. Not a whole lot of skill or awareness on the ball for a 4 but he's long, athletic, and his motor runs very high. I like him as a Jarred Vanderbilt type of project for some NBA team. That probably makes him deserving of being picked in the 20s.

[clyde21]

i am a jordan hawkins enjoyer

[Catchall]

Anyone else see Judah Mintz as a value-pick version of Nick Smith Jr.?

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[clyde21]

yes and I've been on the Mintz train all season now, absurd to me he's not being considered as a lotto pick.

[WargamesX]

yes and I've been on the Mintz train all season now, absurd to me he's not being considered as a lotto pick.

Probably because Syracuse relies so much on the zone you can’t tell if he can play any defense. He’s gonna have to show he has some sort of defensive ability in workouts and the combine to rise up the boards.

[Tha King]

Thoughts on Julian Phillips and Riley Kugel and their draft range as of now?

Julian Phillips (6'8 Forward)
OBPM: 2.6
DBPM: 4.0
BPM: 6.6
Ortg: 117.1 - Drtg: 90.0
In the SEC: 8.0ppg - 4.5rpg - 1.5apg - 0.4bpg - 0.6spg - 1.3tpg (FG: .500 - 3P: .353 - FT: .829) in 24.3mpg (Ortg: 120.6 - Drtg: 95.8)


Riley Kugel (6'5 Guard)
OBPM: 1.8
DBPM: 1.3
BPM: 3.1
Ortg: 104.4 - Drtg: 102.3
SEC: 12.6ppg - 3.4rpg - 0.8apg - 0.8spg - 0.1bpg - 1.4tpg (FG: .516 - 3P: .407 - FT: .681) in 25.6mpg (Ortg: 112.5 - Drtg: 106.2)

[EvanZ]

Julian Phillips is boring but the type of boring that has a chance just due to archetype. I think his range is probably 20-40 depending on your preferences. Kugel doesn’t really seem draftable this year to me.


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[WargamesX]

Julian Phillips is boring but the type of boring that has a chance just due to archetype. I think his range is probably 20-40 depending on your preferences. Kugel doesn’t really seem draftable this year to me.


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For a good while Phillips was one of my favorite players in this year’s draft and I actually had him in the first round earlier this season too. However, the scoring has just been dismal. He’s had nine games where he scored 5 pts or less. I know he isn’t prioritized in the offense but still, dismal.

I have him as my top candidate to return to college. If he can be giving a larger role on offens, show some sort of consistent scoring, or even better a 3pt shot, I think he can go in the lottery next year. With that said, If he does stay in the draft he might still go first round (though it would be a stretch). His FTA rate is ridiculous enough it just screams a physical advantage and he has a lot of upside.