Potential sleepers

Catchall · Post #1621 » by **Catchall** » Mon May 4, 2020 10:01 pm

Fischella wrote:People underrate height a whole lot, it's a real threshold, Robinson is 6'8

He's listed at 6'7" though presumably that's without shoes.

getrichordie · Post #1622 » by **getrichordie** » Wed May 6, 2020 5:36 pm

Anyone else seeing some sleeper potential with Mamukelashvilli? Seemed to make some strides this year before getting injured.

getrichordie · Post #1623 » by **getrichordie** » Wed May 6, 2020 6:16 pm

Kind of liking Rokas Jokubaitis. Has potential to be a nice 6'4 back up point in the league.

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getrichordie · Post #1624 » by **getrichordie** » Thu May 7, 2020 6:33 am

I think Dexter Dennis pretty interesting. Good 3-pt shooter. Good athlete. 6'5 w/ a 6'9 wingpan. Long-term prospect but I can see something there.

Catchall · Post #1625 » by **Catchall** » Tue May 19, 2020 5:20 pm

Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

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D3ko · Post #1626 » by **D3ko** » Tue May 19, 2020 5:21 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #1627 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Tue May 19, 2020 6:18 pm

Catchall wrote:Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

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I've been saying this for awhile now, And people were acting like I was crazy or something. But for my part, He does remind me of a mix of three players mostly:

1- Fred Van Vleet. His poise/ clutch shot making, etc. Strong playmaking POTENTIAL ( should he develop it fully, pesky defense ( when he's locked in, and committed).
2- Prime Deron Williams. His elite ability to penetrate/ breakdown defenses and score super efficiently around/at the rim.
3- Kyrie Irving. His burst, advanced ballhandling skills, elite isolation scoring ability too. Just very clever and crafty as an iso scorer.

I think he's a big time sleeper that projects best in the 17- 25 range of the draft.

Catchall · Post #1628 » by **Catchall** » Tue May 19, 2020 6:59 pm

This kid is only 10 years old.

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Catchall · Post #1629 » by **Catchall** » Tue May 19, 2020 7:44 pm

D3ko wrote:

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As a team that drafted Gordon Hayward, traded for Ricky Rubio and plays Joe Ingles as a primary initiator, I could see the Jazz being interested in Bolmaro.

Stillwater · Post #1630 » by **Stillwater** » Tue May 19, 2020 8:32 pm

Catchall wrote:
D3ko wrote:

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As a team that drafted Gordon Hayward, traded for Ricky Rubio and plays Joe Ingles as a primary initiator, I could see the Jazz being interested in Bolmaro.

I don't really think he is a sleeper at this point ...he is a late first pick and if he falls to the 2nd he will go 31 or 32 for sure.
passing is special

Stillwater · Post #1631 » by **Stillwater** » Tue May 19, 2020 8:35 pm

Catchall wrote:Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

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not buying it all transfering & hes too old to be a first round lock, but yes he is worth a late first in this draft so maybe. I see him going in the 30's pretty easily and would do it if I was in win now mode and needed a bench guard

Catchall · Post #1632 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 23, 2020 4:46 am

I think people are sleeping on Vernon Carey from Duke a bit. Only drawback is his 7-ft wingspan, but I think he's a 1st-rd prospect. Really skilled hands and feet, good touch, and good motor for a guy that size. He's like a lesser version of Demarcus Cousins at UK.

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getrichordie · Post #1633 » by **getrichordie** » Sat May 23, 2020 6:04 am

Catchall wrote:I think people are sleeping on Vernon Carey from Duke a bit. Only drawback is his 7-ft wingspan, but I think he's a 1st-rd prospect. Really skilled hands and feet, good touch, and good motor for a guy that size. He's like a lesser version of Demarcus Cousins at UK.

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Offensively, he is gifted. Don't think he is the bully that Cousins is. He's been compared to GSW-version of Cousin, which isn't very good

Defense is a big issue with Carey...

No-Man · Post #1634 » by **No-Man** » Sat May 23, 2020 12:23 pm

If Carey had real size I'd be fine with him, but he is below every threshold, some passing flashes but overall meh, some shooting flashes but same, bad length, plays small, not quick enough, not athletic enough, he is just a tad too bad everywhere sadly

If he were a 10-20% better in all of those he'd not be that much different from Domas (outside of the passing)

He is more like Kanter sadly

Catchall · Post #1635 » by **Catchall** » Sat May 23, 2020 3:34 pm

Fischella wrote:If Carey had real size I'd be fine with him, but he is below every threshold, some passing flashes but overall meh, some shooting flashes but same, bad length, plays small, not quick enough, not athletic enough, he is just a tad too bad everywhere sadly

If he were a 10-20% better in all of those he'd not be that much different from Domas (outside of the passing)

He is more like Kanter sadly

How do you feel about Wendell Carter Jr. ? Obviously measurements are key for Carey.

No-Man · Post #1636 » by **No-Man** » Sat May 23, 2020 3:41 pm

Carter was just better, straight up, another level as an athlete, shooter, passer, way better on D, just in terms of playing bigger (way longer) physicality, IQ, dunno, not even in the same convo really

Carey's likely a NBA pro for a while as a bench big, just not something that valuable really

Stillwater · Post #1637 » by **Stillwater** » Sun May 24, 2020 1:39 am

Mason Jones has sleeper late lottery written all over him. instant offense...

King Ken · Post #1638 » by **King Ken** » Sun May 24, 2020 1:54 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Catchall wrote:Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

Watch on YouTube

I've been saying this for awhile now, And people were acting like I was crazy or something. But for my part, He does remind me of a mix of three players mostly:

1- Fred Van Vleet. His poise/ clutch shot making, etc. Strong playmaking POTENTIAL ( should he develop it fully, pesky defense ( when he's locked in, and committed).
2- Prime Deron Williams. His elite ability to penetrate/ breakdown defenses and score super efficiently around/at the rim.
3- Kyrie Irving. His burst, advanced ballhandling skills, elite isolation scoring ability too. Just very clever and crafty as an iso scorer.

I think he's a big time sleeper that projects best in the 17- 25 range of the draft.

I agree with that range but I doubt he will be a 1st rounder.

7/7.5 PG prospects usually tend to be in this range but sadly, this is a year where the PG class is insanely deep. I think he may fall to the 2nd round just due to the draft's positional depth. We saw this happen last year with the center position.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1639 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Sun May 24, 2020 2:23 am

King Ken wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Catchall wrote:Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

Watch on YouTube

I've been saying this for awhile now, And people were acting like I was crazy or something. But for my part, He does remind me of a mix of three players mostly:

1- Fred Van Vleet. His poise/ clutch shot making, etc. Strong playmaking POTENTIAL ( should he develop it fully, pesky defense ( when he's locked in, and committed).
2- Prime Deron Williams. His elite ability to penetrate/ breakdown defenses and score super efficiently around/at the rim.
3- Kyrie Irving. His burst, advanced ballhandling skills, elite isolation scoring ability too. Just very clever and crafty as an iso scorer.

I think he's a big time sleeper that projects best in the 17- 25 range of the draft.

I agree with that range but I doubt he will be a 1st rounder.

7/7.5 PG prospects usually tend to be in this range but sadly, this is a year where the PG class is insanely deep. I think he may fall to the 2nd round just due to the draft's positional depth. We saw this happen last year with the center position.

Definitely, If he falls to the 2nd round, He could end up being a potential steal for some lucky team! :wink:

getrichordie · Post #1640 » by **getrichordie** » Sun May 24, 2020 2:48 am

King Ken wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Catchall wrote:Grant Riller does Kyrie stuff. He could go 1st round.

Watch on YouTube

I've been saying this for awhile now, And people were acting like I was crazy or something. But for my part, He does remind me of a mix of three players mostly:

1- Fred Van Vleet. His poise/ clutch shot making, etc. Strong playmaking POTENTIAL ( should he develop it fully, pesky defense ( when he's locked in, and committed).
2- Prime Deron Williams. His elite ability to penetrate/ breakdown defenses and score super efficiently around/at the rim.
3- Kyrie Irving. His burst, advanced ballhandling skills, elite isolation scoring ability too. Just very clever and crafty as an iso scorer.

I think he's a big time sleeper that projects best in the 17- 25 range of the draft.

I agree with that range but I doubt he will be a 1st rounder.

7/7.5 PG prospects usually tend to be in this range but sadly, this is a year where the PG class is insanely deep. I think he may fall to the 2nd round just due to the draft's positional depth. We saw this happen last year with the center position.

What makes you think Riller won't be a first rounder?