Zach Edey, 7-4
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I’m sorry but this guy is unplayable in the NBA. Getting outplayed by Jay Huff lmao
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
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JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.
In a game where Morant was rested, JJJ on a mins restriction they still only played Edey 14 mins last night.
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JMAC3 wrote:JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.
In a game where Morant was rested, JJJ on a mins restriction they still only played Edey 14 mins last night.
We knew all along. Silly that no one listened.
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Big J wrote:JMAC3 wrote:JMAC3 wrote:My guess for Edey stats as a rookie will be 14.5 mpg and he will average 6.7 ppg and 5 rpg.
In a game where Morant was rested, JJJ on a mins restriction they still only played Edey 14 mins last night.
We knew all along. Silly that no one listened.
Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
Jay Huff is averaging almost 60% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game in the first 4 games of the season. Huff playing well doesn't take anything away from Edey. It might mean Edey is getting less opportunity at the moment. It is a long season. Edey will have his chances.
You guys are patting yourself on the back, pretending to be different people, but Edey is still one of the best rookies so far despite not even having a good game yet. You both also said he should be a 2nd round pick if I remember correctly, lol.
What is the guy you liked in this draft doing so far? I guess you two clowns don't need much to start taking victory laps. Enjoy it while you can, lol.
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GoBobs wrote:Big J wrote:JMAC3 wrote:
In a game where Morant was rested, JJJ on a mins restriction they still only played Edey 14 mins last night.
We knew all along. Silly that no one listened.
Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
Jay Huff is averaging almost 60% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game in the first 4 games of the season. Huff playing well doesn't take anything away from Edey. It might mean Edey is getting less opportunity at the moment. It is a long season. Edey will have his chances.
You guys are patting yourself on the back, pretending to be different people, but Edey is still one of the best rookies so far despite not even having a good game yet. You both also said he should be a 2nd round pick if I remember correctly, lol.
What is the guy you liked in this draft doing so far? I guess you two clowns don't need much to start taking victory laps. Enjoy it while you can, lol.
This is complete nonsense. He's barely a top 5 C that was drafted last season let alone rookie. He'd be the worst center drafted by far if Ware had played at all so far. I'd still take Ware 10/10 times over Edey.
I watch virtually no college basketball because it mostly doesn't translate to the NBA. It was so obvious this guy was not an upper tier NBA caliber player (yes I said he should be a 2nd rounder).
The problem is that you had dudes hyping him up that don't understand how little translates from college to the Pros, especially for big men.
He is UNPLAYABLE in the modern NBA. He cannot guard a PnR. He gets blown by every single time. The Grizzlies have him in a deep drop every play because if he comes up any higher than the elbow he's getting blown by.
This is the 1st clip I pulled, this is just awful guarding position. He's not paying any attention to his man, while being deep in the paint watching the ball handler. He's dead to rights no matter what happens here. If he stays in the paint it's an easy middy, if he comes up to guard Sexton it's an easy layup.
Here he is caught in no-mans land, too far to contest a shot from Sexton and too slow to recover to Kessler to protect the rim. (He gets dunked on and gets called for a foul)

It is going to be this all season long until they just put him at the end of the bench and give him some spot minutes against the other teams reserves.
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
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jasonxxx102 wrote:GoBobs wrote:Big J wrote:
We knew all along. Silly that no one listened.
Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
Jay Huff is averaging almost 60% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game in the first 4 games of the season. Huff playing well doesn't take anything away from Edey. It might mean Edey is getting less opportunity at the moment. It is a long season. Edey will have his chances.
You guys are patting yourself on the back, pretending to be different people, but Edey is still one of the best rookies so far despite not even having a good game yet. You both also said he should be a 2nd round pick if I remember correctly, lol.
What is the guy you liked in this draft doing so far? I guess you two clowns don't need much to start taking victory laps. Enjoy it while you can, lol.
This is complete nonsense. He's barely a top 5 C that was drafted last season let alone rookie. He'd be the worst center drafted by far if Ware had played at all so far. I'd still take Ware 10/10 times over Edey.
I watch virtually no college basketball because it mostly doesn't translate to the NBA. It was so obvious this guy was not an upper tier NBA caliber player (yes I said he should be a 2nd rounder).
The problem is that you had dudes hyping him up that don't understand how little translates from college to the Pros, especially for big men.
He is UNPLAYABLE in the modern NBA. He cannot guard a PnR. He gets blown by every single time. The Grizzlies have him in a deep drop every play because if he comes up any higher than the elbow he's getting blown by.
This is the 1st clip I pulled, this is just awful guarding position. He's not paying any attention to his man, while being deep in the paint watching the ball handler. He's dead to rights no matter what happens here. If he stays in the paint it's an easy middy, if he comes up to guard Sexton it's an easy layup.
Here he is caught in no-mans land, too far to contest a shot from Sexton and too slow to recover to Kessler to protect the rim. (He gets dunked on and gets called for a foul)
It is going to be this all season long until they just put him at the end of the bench and give him some spot minutes against the other teams reserves.
If you thought he should have been 2nd round, you messed up. He is top 5 in pts and rebounds amoung rookies despite not having a good game yet. He leads all rookies in fg made.
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GoBobs wrote:Big J wrote:JMAC3 wrote:
In a game where Morant was rested, JJJ on a mins restriction they still only played Edey 14 mins last night.
We knew all along. Silly that no one listened.
Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
Jay Huff is averaging almost 60% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game in the first 4 games of the season. Huff playing well doesn't take anything away from Edey. It might mean Edey is getting less opportunity at the moment. It is a long season. Edey will have his chances.
You guys are patting yourself on the back, pretending to be different people, but Edey is still one of the best rookies so far despite not even having a good game yet. You both also said he should be a 2nd round pick if I remember correctly, lol.
What is the guy you liked in this draft doing so far? I guess you two clowns don't need much to start taking victory laps. Enjoy it while you can, lol.
People were complaining that we were comping him to Boban. Boban is a freaking god compared to Edey. And for that record I said I wouldn’t draft him in the 3rd round.
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GoBobs wrote:Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
GoBobs wrote:If you thought he should have been 2nd round, you messed up. He is top 5 in pts and rebounds amoung rookies despite not having a good game yet. He leads all rookies in fg made.
It is funny how these two quotes disqualify one another.
You can't claim oh well Edey will play more so don't look into much into rookie stats one second and then the next also try to pat him on the back because of where he ranks in the stats through 4 games.
My argument against Edey right now would be... we were oversold on his role to start the year as the starting center. His production has not been good compared to what was promised, especially when you consider JJJ has missed time and when he has played been on a min restriction. So if anything the opportunity for Edey to get more mins looks to be going the opposite way. Along with Jay Huff an afterthought to most is playing more than Edey.
Along the same lines Edey was supposed to be polished as the National player of the year... he is already 22 years old. He should be better than most 19 yr olds the first 10 games of the season.
We saw the same thing last year with Jacquez, Craig Porter and Marcus Sasser...
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GoBobs wrote:jasonxxx102 wrote:GoBobs wrote:
Edey is averaging 16 min per game in a 4 game samples size with a few of those games being in early foul trouble for most of it. Rookies can't be counted on to play the whole season, but his minutes are going to likely increase.
Jay Huff is averaging almost 60% from 3 on over 4 attempts per game in the first 4 games of the season. Huff playing well doesn't take anything away from Edey. It might mean Edey is getting less opportunity at the moment. It is a long season. Edey will have his chances.
You guys are patting yourself on the back, pretending to be different people, but Edey is still one of the best rookies so far despite not even having a good game yet. You both also said he should be a 2nd round pick if I remember correctly, lol.
What is the guy you liked in this draft doing so far? I guess you two clowns don't need much to start taking victory laps. Enjoy it while you can, lol.
This is complete nonsense. He's barely a top 5 C that was drafted last season let alone rookie. He'd be the worst center drafted by far if Ware had played at all so far. I'd still take Ware 10/10 times over Edey.
I watch virtually no college basketball because it mostly doesn't translate to the NBA. It was so obvious this guy was not an upper tier NBA caliber player (yes I said he should be a 2nd rounder).
The problem is that you had dudes hyping him up that don't understand how little translates from college to the Pros, especially for big men.
He is UNPLAYABLE in the modern NBA. He cannot guard a PnR. He gets blown by every single time. The Grizzlies have him in a deep drop every play because if he comes up any higher than the elbow he's getting blown by.
This is the 1st clip I pulled, this is just awful guarding position. He's not paying any attention to his man, while being deep in the paint watching the ball handler. He's dead to rights no matter what happens here. If he stays in the paint it's an easy middy, if he comes up to guard Sexton it's an easy layup.
Here he is caught in no-mans land, too far to contest a shot from Sexton and too slow to recover to Kessler to protect the rim. (He gets dunked on and gets called for a foul)
It is going to be this all season long until they just put him at the end of the bench and give him some spot minutes against the other teams reserves.
If you thought he should have been 2nd round, you messed up. He is top 5 in pts and rebounds amoung rookies despite not having a good game yet. He leads all rookies in fg made.
He's 7'4 and only managed to make 14 shots in 4 games and 87% of his total shots are at the rim. Amazing
He has 1, yes just 1 block in 64 minutes. That's less than German legend and 58th overall pick Ariel Hukporti who has 4 in 1/3rd of the time.
Well what about Edey's on/off so far? It's -26.6 no big deal lol
All as a 22 year old 7'4 center. Amazing. Already one of the worst draft picks in recent memory
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
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Edey has never been and never will be a shot blocker, this was pretty obvious from the start so I wouldn't expect a huge improvement there if that's what you were looking for
compare that to Clingan who's an actual shot blocker, has 8 blocks in 4 games (while only playing 13 per).
i pointed this out back in June:
compare that to Clingan who's an actual shot blocker, has 8 blocks in 4 games (while only playing 13 per).
i pointed this out back in June:
clyde21 wrote:no, he's not...Edey is actually not that good of a defender tbh, I mean he's good just because he's so big but he's not necessarily a great rim protector or a guy that has pure defensive instincts.
Edey in his college career averaged 4.1 blocks per 100 which is actually not that great for a dude his size and for his role...meanwhile Clingan averaged 7.2 blocks per 100 and he's two yrs younger than Edey.
right now Clingan is actively a better defensive big than Edey and you don't even have to go by blocks per 100 you can just watch them and you can see the Clingan is a natural defensive force and Edey is just not. that alone makes Clingan's path to minutes in the NBA clearer imo.
i said this before but I would've rated Edey much high had he actually been a great defensive prospect to go alone with his insta-bucket on the other side of the court but he has spacing/positional gaps on that end and in rim protection he gets by primarily on his size advantage vs. anything else really, and that size advantage is only going to get smaller in the NBA
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clyde21 wrote:Edey has never been and never will be a shot blocker, this was pretty obvious from the start so I wouldn't expect a huge improvement there if that's what you were looking for
compare that to Clingan who's an actual shot blocker, has 8 blocks in 4 games (while only playing 13 per).
i pointed this out back in June:clyde21 wrote:no, he's not...Edey is actually not that good of a defender tbh, I mean he's good just because he's so big but he's not necessarily a great rim protector or a guy that has pure defensive instincts.
Edey in his college career averaged 4.1 blocks per 100 which is actually not that great for a dude his size and for his role...meanwhile Clingan averaged 7.2 blocks per 100 and he's two yrs younger than Edey.
right now Clingan is actively a better defensive big than Edey and you don't even have to go by blocks per 100 you can just watch them and you can see the Clingan is a natural defensive force and Edey is just not. that alone makes Clingan's path to minutes in the NBA clearer imo.
i said this before but I would've rated Edey much high had he actually been a great defensive prospect to go alone with his insta-bucket on the other side of the court but he has spacing/positional gaps on that end and in rim protection he gets by primarily on his size advantage vs. anything else really, and that size advantage is only going to get smaller in the NBA
I agree with all of this, and if it's true. What does Edey bring to a team?
If you have a 7'4 center who can't shoot, can't defend outside of 3ft, and can't block shots. What should be expected from him?
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
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Tonight is actually the perfect scenario where I think Edey can find some success as a matchup based player.
Brooklyn played the game without a center, Edey was able to go against Ben Simmons and DFS and had an efficient 13 pts in 18 mins on 6/9 shooting. Despite him being efficient Memphis was still -6 with him on the court and ended up losing to the Nets.
The lack of mins in a juicy matchup vs a bad team shows how tough it will be for Edey to live up to a top 10 pick status.
Brooklyn played the game without a center, Edey was able to go against Ben Simmons and DFS and had an efficient 13 pts in 18 mins on 6/9 shooting. Despite him being efficient Memphis was still -6 with him on the court and ended up losing to the Nets.
The lack of mins in a juicy matchup vs a bad team shows how tough it will be for Edey to live up to a top 10 pick status.
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JMAC3 wrote:Tonight is actually the perfect scenario where I think Edey can find some success as a matchup based player.
Brooklyn played the game without a center, Edey was able to go against Ben Simmons and DFS and had an efficient 13 pts in 18 mins on 6/9 shooting. Despite him being efficient Memphis was still -6 with him on the court and ended up losing to the Nets.
The lack of mins in a juicy matchup vs a bad team shows how tough it will be for Edey to live up to a top 10 pick status.
Plus/Minus from a single game is meaningless. LaRavia was 1-10 in the same game and only had a -1 in a game his team lost by 13. Does that mean his team is better when he is out there chucking?
Any team would be happy with their rookie going 6-9 and scoring 13 pts in only 18 min of game play.
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After seeing Bronny hit a shot tonight I wouldn’t be surprised if he becomes a more useful player than Edey. He can at least stay in front of guys on D.
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Yeah, I mean, he looks about what I expected
He's very good at what he does, but what he does is only situationally useful.
He's very good at what he does, but what he does is only situationally useful.
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GoBobs wrote:JMAC3 wrote:Tonight is actually the perfect scenario where I think Edey can find some success as a matchup based player.
Brooklyn played the game without a center, Edey was able to go against Ben Simmons and DFS and had an efficient 13 pts in 18 mins on 6/9 shooting. Despite him being efficient Memphis was still -6 with him on the court and ended up losing to the Nets.
The lack of mins in a juicy matchup vs a bad team shows how tough it will be for Edey to live up to a top 10 pick status.
Plus/Minus from a single game is meaningless. LaRavia was 1-10 in the same game and only had a -1 in a game his team lost by 13. Does that mean his team is better when he is out there chucking?
Any team would be happy with their rookie going 6-9 and scoring 13 pts in only 18 min of game play.
Yeah I am sure Memphis was happy with this game. I think him scoring 13 pts in a cake matchup like this is a lot closer to what I predicted than what you predicted.
You were saying he could be the next Shaq, was a guy that could play massive mins in the league. Neither look close to true.
I only bring up plus minus here because on paper this was the matchup that pro-Edey posters were saying he would destroy. When in reality Memphis went away from in the 2nd half because they were losing his mins. Not saying that is all on him because it is not, but if he were as dominant as many preached he should have been able to score on DFS and Simmons at will and that was not the case.
I expect him to continue being around a 15 mpg type of center who will have a few good games this year in the right game situations.
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This is why all of us who knew were saying he’d be Boban. Very situational. Edey truthers poo pooed that comp and tried telling us he would dominate on O and have no problems on D. Truly laughable when you think about it.
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JMAC3 wrote:GoBobs wrote:JMAC3 wrote:Tonight is actually the perfect scenario where I think Edey can find some success as a matchup based player.
Brooklyn played the game without a center, Edey was able to go against Ben Simmons and DFS and had an efficient 13 pts in 18 mins on 6/9 shooting. Despite him being efficient Memphis was still -6 with him on the court and ended up losing to the Nets.
The lack of mins in a juicy matchup vs a bad team shows how tough it will be for Edey to live up to a top 10 pick status.
Plus/Minus from a single game is meaningless. LaRavia was 1-10 in the same game and only had a -1 in a game his team lost by 13. Does that mean his team is better when he is out there chucking?
Any team would be happy with their rookie going 6-9 and scoring 13 pts in only 18 min of game play.
Yeah I am sure Memphis was happy with this game. I think him scoring 13 pts in a cake matchup like this is a lot closer to what I predicted than what you predicted.
You were saying he could be the next Shaq, was a guy that could play massive mins in the league. Neither look close to true.
I only bring up plus minus here because on paper this was the matchup that pro-Edey posters were saying he would destroy. When in reality Memphis went away from in the 2nd half because they were losing his mins. Not saying that is all on him because it is not, but if he were as dominant as many preached he should have been able to score on DFS and Simmons at will and that was not the case.
I expect him to continue being around a 15 mpg type of center who will have a few good games this year in the right game situations.
Where do you think he will finish in the rookie of the year voting?
Where do you think he ranks right now?
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GoBobs wrote:JMAC3 wrote:GoBobs wrote:
Plus/Minus from a single game is meaningless. LaRavia was 1-10 in the same game and only had a -1 in a game his team lost by 13. Does that mean his team is better when he is out there chucking?
Any team would be happy with their rookie going 6-9 and scoring 13 pts in only 18 min of game play.
Yeah I am sure Memphis was happy with this game. I think him scoring 13 pts in a cake matchup like this is a lot closer to what I predicted than what you predicted.
You were saying he could be the next Shaq, was a guy that could play massive mins in the league. Neither look close to true.
I only bring up plus minus here because on paper this was the matchup that pro-Edey posters were saying he would destroy. When in reality Memphis went away from in the 2nd half because they were losing his mins. Not saying that is all on him because it is not, but if he were as dominant as many preached he should have been able to score on DFS and Simmons at will and that was not the case.
I expect him to continue being around a 15 mpg type of center who will have a few good games this year in the right game situations.
Where do you think he will finish in the rookie of the year voting?
Where do you think he ranks right now?
Probably pretty low because I think at least 15- 20 rookies will end up playing more mins per game than him when all is said and done.
There will be 4-6 rookies who are playing close to 30 mins per game and those will be the guys who are mainly finishing high in the voting.
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It's been a struggle but I expect adjustments will be made like all rookies. Can't make final judgments based on small sample sizes.
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