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Can’t wait till the draft
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Fischella wrote:Poku is nothing like Bertans, he is more like Kirilenko with like a 10% of the athleticism and physicality
He has a great all around game though
AK47 in the 2020s nba would play out of the dunkers spot. This guy looked like a floor spacer to me , his shot preparation and the height of his release are really good for a jumpshooting big. Has the tools to be a 3PA machine since normal contest/closeouts won’t bother his shot.
Im not saying his overall game is like Bertans, that role is just how I would optimize him on offense. Sure he can slash and do some on-ball stuff but for that type of player, their best chance of developing an elite skill is by maximizing their gravity as shooters.
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Oh he is a floor spacer, if he is anything, but he has that type of all around game
Obviously not nearly the same force as Andrei
He is less of a specialist than Bertans, worse shooter and much better all around game
Obviously not nearly the same force as Andrei
He is less of a specialist than Bertans, worse shooter and much better all around game
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Oturu is having a dominant stretch
Thoughts on the guy?
Daniel Oturu's last six games:
26 and 14
30 and 7
22 and 10
19 and 16
29 and 18
21 and 20
42% from three-point range, 72% from the line.
Thoughts on the guy?
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HeadtopChunes wrote:Oturu is having a dominant stretch
Daniel Oturu's last six games:
26 and 14
30 and 7
22 and 10
19 and 16
29 and 18
21 and 20
42% from three-point range, 72% from the line.
Thoughts on the guy?
He obviously plays with a very high motor. Solid at the line so far and has shown the ability to hit a 3 to an extent. We'll see if he keeps this up during March tho.
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Myles Powell will have a solid NBA career. He might spend a year in the G-League but he will have a NBA career. A pure shot maker. These days, the 3rd PG is becoming quite important especially for the regular season. I can see him carving out that role long term.
Kamar Baldwin has the biggest upside of all of these SR PG's. He needs a year in the G-league to improve his playmaking which has improved throughout the season but his ability to score and defense while having great decision making skills is tremendous. As a pure shot maker. Just a winner man...
He is one of those better to watch than to read the stat sheet types. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a NBA stud like Fred VanFleet.
Cassius Winston is NBA ready but I think his best role might be as a 3rd PG long term. I think he could play as a backup but if you want to get the most out of Winston, he could be an excellent 3rd PG. To me De'Anthony Melton has been elite in that role and it's important to winning. He reminds me of Brevin Knight. Not the passer Knight was and a superior shooter and scorer to Knight but his brain and his feel for the game is insane like Knight's.
Kamar Baldwin has the biggest upside of all of these SR PG's. He needs a year in the G-league to improve his playmaking which has improved throughout the season but his ability to score and defense while having great decision making skills is tremendous. As a pure shot maker. Just a winner man...
He is one of those better to watch than to read the stat sheet types. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a NBA stud like Fred VanFleet.
Cassius Winston is NBA ready but I think his best role might be as a 3rd PG long term. I think he could play as a backup but if you want to get the most out of Winston, he could be an excellent 3rd PG. To me De'Anthony Melton has been elite in that role and it's important to winning. He reminds me of Brevin Knight. Not the passer Knight was and a superior shooter and scorer to Knight but his brain and his feel for the game is insane like Knight's.
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clyde21 wrote:T1
SCOTTIE LEWIS
RJ HAMPTON
ANTHONY EDWARDS
JOSH GREEN
OSCAR TSHIEBWE
T2
TYRESE HALIBURTON
NICO MANNION
ISAAC OKORO
JAMES WISEMAN
OCHAI AGBAJI
JOE WIESKAMP
TRE JONES
COLE ANTHONY
these are my top 2 tiers at this point more or less, don't see anyone else going into T1 right now.
scottie lewis lol come off it
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Hook_Em wrote:clyde21 wrote:T1
SCOTTIE LEWIS
RJ HAMPTON
ANTHONY EDWARDS
JOSH GREEN
OSCAR TSHIEBWE
T2
TYRESE HALIBURTON
NICO MANNION
ISAAC OKORO
JAMES WISEMAN
OCHAI AGBAJI
JOE WIESKAMP
TRE JONES
COLE ANTHONY
these are my top 2 tiers at this point more or less, don't see anyone else going into T1 right now.
scottie lewis lol come off it
nope sorry?
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Oturu is playing like a top 10 pick. He's raw but bigs who can shoot, finish, defensively move in space, and protect the rim are HARD TO FIND. Could be a rich man's Dewayne Dedmon long term. Absolutely zero NBA star potential but could be good. I see the G-league as a rookie.
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not that a single game means much but Jared Butler outplayed Hali tonight by a good margin
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King Ken wrote:Myles Powell will have a solid NBA career. He might spend a year in the G-League but he will have a NBA career. A pure shot maker. These days, the 3rd PG is becoming quite important especially for the regular season. I can see him carving out that role long term.
Kamar Baldwin has the biggest upside of all of these SR PG's. He needs a year in the G-league to improve his playmaking which has improved throughout the season but his ability to score and defense while having great decision making skills is tremendous. As a pure shot maker. Just a winner man...
He is one of those better to watch than to read the stat sheet types. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a NBA stud like Fred VanFleet.
Cassius Winston is NBA ready but I think his best role might be as a 3rd PG long term. I think he could play as a backup but if you want to get the most out of Winston, he could be an excellent 3rd PG. To me De'Anthony Melton has been elite in that role and it's important to winning. He reminds me of Brevin Knight. Not the passer Knight was and a superior shooter and scorer to Knight but his brain and his feel for the game is insane like Knight's.
Do you think Jalen Brunsson is a good size/skill/athleticism comp to Cassius Winston?
Brunsson is a backup PG to Doncic but splits minutes with Delon Wright and JJ Barea. Is that the kind of impact you expect from Cassius?
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Oturu is pretty bad on defense but can be a good rim rummer with maybe some spacing ability, I am not a fan but he is probably worth a look in the 2nd like Gafford was
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Roddy B for 3 wrote:King Ken wrote:Myles Powell will have a solid NBA career. He might spend a year in the G-League but he will have a NBA career. A pure shot maker. These days, the 3rd PG is becoming quite important especially for the regular season. I can see him carving out that role long term.
Kamar Baldwin has the biggest upside of all of these SR PG's. He needs a year in the G-league to improve his playmaking which has improved throughout the season but his ability to score and defense while having great decision making skills is tremendous. As a pure shot maker. Just a winner man...
He is one of those better to watch than to read the stat sheet types. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a NBA stud like Fred VanFleet.
Cassius Winston is NBA ready but I think his best role might be as a 3rd PG long term. I think he could play as a backup but if you want to get the most out of Winston, he could be an excellent 3rd PG. To me De'Anthony Melton has been elite in that role and it's important to winning. He reminds me of Brevin Knight. Not the passer Knight was and a superior shooter and scorer to Knight but his brain and his feel for the game is insane like Knight's.
Do you think Jalen Brunsson is a good size/skill/athleticism comp to Cassius Winston?
Brunsson is a backup PG to Doncic but splits minutes with Delon Wright and JJ Barea. Is that the kind of impact you expect from Cassius?
Brunson is a better PG but Winston is a better Basketball player. I still believe have excellent PG skills is more important than being a pure Hooper for the backup PG role. That's why Tyus Jones got paid and why Jalen will as well.
I don't expect he will be given the same role or expect the same impact based on value in that specific role. That said, Winston could be a better spot starter than Brunson or Jones ever was.
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Fischella wrote:Oturu is pretty bad on defense but can be a good rim rummer with maybe some spacing ability, I am not a fan but he is probably worth a look in the 2nd like Gafford was
Saying he is bad on defense is relative. Does he have pure NBA readiness, absolutely NOT. By tools and ability, he shows potential. When the first thing I mention is he is raw, that means he is far from polish. I can see if that's not a 1st round center but none of these guys at that position this year are polish and almost never are. Even the ones who are like JJJ can't effectively play the position in the NBA are are exclusively PFs till they mature physically and mentally.
Even Ayton is better off the bench. Center is a physically mature position. It is extremely rare when a younger guy can succeed at the position considering all of the modern requirements from the position unless they are primary ball handlers like Jokic
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He has potential as a shot blocker, but he is pretty slow reacting, has bad instincts and feel and is not a physical player on that end
I just don't see it, he may become a nice bench big, but again, what's the value proposition there... there are at least 4 pure bigs I'd take ahead of him pretty clearly in this class also (Okongwu, Wiseman, Nnaji, Stewart) and a bunch of combo-bigs as well.
He is in the same tier as Tshiebwe, Conditt, Carey, Bassey, Wesson, Teske, Haarms, Richards etc for me
It's completely the opposite, bigs, unless they are really underdeveloped physically, translate the quickest to the NBA game
I just don't see it, he may become a nice bench big, but again, what's the value proposition there... there are at least 4 pure bigs I'd take ahead of him pretty clearly in this class also (Okongwu, Wiseman, Nnaji, Stewart) and a bunch of combo-bigs as well.
He is in the same tier as Tshiebwe, Conditt, Carey, Bassey, Wesson, Teske, Haarms, Richards etc for me
It's completely the opposite, bigs, unless they are really underdeveloped physically, translate the quickest to the NBA game
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Fischella wrote:He has potential as a shot blocker, but he is pretty slow reacting, has bad instincts and feel and is not a physical player on that end
I don't think he's any worse than Toppin or Naji on defense, and his potential actually seems higher.
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The-Power wrote:Fischella wrote:He has potential as a shot blocker, but he is pretty slow reacting, has bad instincts and feel and is not a physical player on that end
I don't think he's any worse than Toppin or Naji on defense, and his potential actually seems higher.
Oh I don't think he is worse than them either there, but I like those two significantly more on offense, and Nnaji has more mobility/potential to switch on D, plus Toppin is clearly a 4, not a Center
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Fischella, could you please guys update the rankings on stepien? It has been so long and are totally outdated.Thanks
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CP War Hawks wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:Oturu is having a dominant stretch
Daniel Oturu's last six games:
26 and 14
30 and 7
22 and 10
19 and 16
29 and 18
21 and 20
42% from three-point range, 72% from the line.
Thoughts on the guy?
He obviously plays with a very high motor. Solid at the line so far and has shown the ability to hit a 3 to an extent. We'll see if he keeps this up during March tho.
Gophers will need to get to 18 wins in the regular season (with 2 ranked wins) and then win 1 game in the B1G tourney if they want to get to march madness. Or else right now they are looking NIT bound. 2 big wins against Ohio State (ranked 3 at the time) and Michigan (ranked 19 at the time).
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Oturu looks like a nice backup center type. Worth a late FRP. I think he is pretty NBA ready in that role which should be appealing to teams drafting in that area. The Deadmon comp is straight on. Oturu has a better motor though.