2023 NBA Draft

Post #1641 » by **Duke4life831** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:48 pm

So does Leaky Black get a flyer taken on him in the 2nd round? Does a team take a chance on him maybe being a Herb Jones 2.0? Leaky is 6'7 with a 6'11 wingspan and a good athlete and a damn good defender (2x ACC defense and ACC DPOY runner up this year). He just doesnt bring much on the offensive end and he was in college for 5 years.

Hal14 · Post #1642 » by **Hal14** » Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:25 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So does Leaky Black get a flyer taken on him in the 2nd round? Does a team take a chance on him maybe being a Herb Jones 2.0? Leaky is 6'7 with a 6'11 wingspan and a good athlete and a damn good defender (2x ACC defense and ACC DPOY runner up this year). He just doesnt bring much on the offensive end and he was in college for 5 years.

I've got him ranked at the moment in like the 57-64 range. Could certainly move up a little as guys withdraw from the draft.

I think he could end up being a Herb Jones - Matisse Thybulle type of guy, for sure.

Showed enough flashes this season of attacking the rim, even showing some midd range jumpers off the dribble, hitting spot up 3's.

The defense is REALLY good. And he's actually listed on the UNC site as 6'9 which gives him good size for a wing.

TheSuzerain · Post #1643 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:53 am

Dajuan Harris is fun. The weaknesses are probably too much but I do wonder

clyde21 · Post #1644 » by **clyde21** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:09 am

such a shame Scheyer robbed us of DWH can do this season by relegating him to being a spot up guy.

JMAC3 · Post #1645 » by **JMAC3** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:15 am

Arkansas looking like a mess

clyde21 · Post #1646 » by **clyde21** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:46 am

is Oso Ighodaro draftable?

BostonCouchGM · Post #1647 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:44 am

Duke4life831 wrote:So does Leaky Black get a flyer taken on him in the 2nd round? Does a team take a chance on him maybe being a Herb Jones 2.0? Leaky is 6'7 with a 6'11 wingspan and a good athlete and a damn good defender (2x ACC defense and ACC DPOY runner up this year). He just doesnt bring much on the offensive end and he was in college for 5 years.

type of guy Danny Ainge loves. I could see him having a Royce O'Neal type career.

TheSuzerain · Post #1648 » by **TheSuzerain** » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:15 pm

clyde21 wrote:is Oso Ighodaro draftable?

I like him. Just a good player. Marquette is fun this year

Hal14 · Post #1649 » by **Hal14** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:00 am

clyde21 wrote:is Oso Ighodaro draftable?

Just outside the top 60 for me but could move up depending on how he looks rest of season and also as other guys withdraw from the draft..

SeattleJazzFan · Post #1650 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:59 am

Marquette is such a dangerous team. They play so hard, smart and tough. They don’t seem like a great shooting team, but damn they get after it. Just not a fun team to play against.

Also Kolek reminds me of Brunson at Villanova - not saying he’ll be that good in the league or even make it at all, but the way he uses his body, craftiness near the hoop, calm, under control, high iq, etc.

LofJ · Post #1651 » by **LofJ** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:34 pm

Anyone think Tubelis out of Arizona will be able to shoot from 3 in the NBA? He has a good free throw percentage, but he only attempts about one 3 pointer a game right now. His release looks good, but it's slow. If he can shoot from 3 I like him as a prospect. He has good feel, can run the floor, and he has great hands.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1652 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:50 pm

LofJ wrote:Anyone think Tubelis out of Arizona will be able to shoot from 3 in the NBA? He has a good free throw percentage, but he only attempts about one 3 pointer a game right now. His release looks good, but it's slow. If he can shoot from 3 I like him as a prospect. He has good feel, can run the floor, and he has great hands.

He’s an underrated prospect in my opinion. Being an upperclassman shouldn’t penalize him for what he does on the court. Personally, I think his release is wonky, but I have no doubts he’ll get it to work in the pros. Whoever takes him will be happy.

EvanZ · Post #1653 » by **EvanZ** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:45 pm

Speaking of underrated Bediako seems so.

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Post #1654 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:33 pm

Still dont know how high I would take him in the draft, but my guy Flip has had a hell of a run to close out the season.

17/8/2 with a steal a game on 61 TS% over the last 9 games.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1655 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Still dont know how high I would take him in the draft, but my guy Flip has had a hell of a run to close out the season.

17/8/2 with a steal a game on 61 TS% over the last 9 games.

Performing at the highest level when it matters most

Post #1656 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:42 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Still dont know how high I would take him in the draft, but my guy Flip has had a hell of a run to close out the season.

17/8/2 with a steal a game on 61 TS% over the last 9 games.

Performing at the highest level when it matters most

Yup. The dude has been a stud. He has cut down on a lot of his dumb turnovers (mainly dumb spin and behind the back moves). And he is just wrecking havoc. It took awhile, but him and Lively have really figured out how to play with each other on both ends.

Still not sure if he has the mobility to play the 4 in the NBA though. And if he doesnt, then him being positioned locked at the 5 lowers his value big time, especially with him not being much of a rim protector.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1657 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:57 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Still dont know how high I would take him in the draft, but my guy Flip has had a hell of a run to close out the season.

17/8/2 with a steal a game on 61 TS% over the last 9 games.

Performing at the highest level when it matters most

Yup. The dude has been a stud. He has cut down on a lot of his dumb turnovers (mainly dumb spin and behind the back moves). And he is just wrecking havoc. It took awhile, but him and Lively have really figured out how to play with each other on both ends.

Still not sure if he has the mobility to play the 4 in the NBA though. And if he doesnt, then him being positioned locked at the 5 lowers his value big time, especially with him not being much of a rim protector.

That’s true. But if you can play him at the 5 with a bunch of athletic guys it might work. Say a team like Toronto, or OKC with their abundance of long defenders.

Post #1658 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:05 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Performing at the highest level when it matters most

Yup. The dude has been a stud. He has cut down on a lot of his dumb turnovers (mainly dumb spin and behind the back moves). And he is just wrecking havoc. It took awhile, but him and Lively have really figured out how to play with each other on both ends.

Still not sure if he has the mobility to play the 4 in the NBA though. And if he doesnt, then him being positioned locked at the 5 lowers his value big time, especially with him not being much of a rim protector.

That’s true. But if you can play him at the 5 with a bunch of athletic guys it might work. Say a team like Toronto, or OKC with their abundance of long defenders.

I think for him to be worth a high 1st (lotto) I would want to see at least 1 of 3 things from him.

1. Not be positioned locked at the 5
2. Better rim protection
3. Better facilitator

If he can prove one of those 3 things I could feel better taking him higher. Because again, if he's not positioned locked it opens up his versatility. Or if he becomes a better rim protector, him being position locked isnt too bad. Or if he becomes a high level facilitator, then any issues with his defense will be worth it because of being an offensive dynamo. Im just not sold on any of those 3 things though.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #1659 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:11 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Yup. The dude has been a stud. He has cut down on a lot of his dumb turnovers (mainly dumb spin and behind the back moves). And he is just wrecking havoc. It took awhile, but him and Lively have really figured out how to play with each other on both ends.

Still not sure if he has the mobility to play the 4 in the NBA though. And if he doesnt, then him being positioned locked at the 5 lowers his value big time, especially with him not being much of a rim protector.

That’s true. But if you can play him at the 5 with a bunch of athletic guys it might work. Say a team like Toronto, or OKC with their abundance of long defenders.

I think for him to be worth a high 1st (lotto) I would want to see at least 1 of 3 things from him.

1. Not be positioned locked at the 5
2. Better rim protection
3. Better facilitator

If he can prove one of those 3 things I could feel better taking him higher. Because again, if he's not positioned locked it opens up his versatility. Or if he becomes a better rim protector, him being position locked isnt too bad. Or if he becomes a high level facilitator, then any issues with his defense will be worth it because of being an offensive dynamo. Im just not sold on any of those 3 things though.

That’s fair. But I can also see him having a Markkanen style of play in the NBA. Otherwise, I’d say his downside is probably someone like Mamu.

clyde21 · Post #1660 » by **clyde21** » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:31 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Still dont know how high I would take him in the draft, but my guy Flip has had a hell of a run to close out the season.

17/8/2 with a steal a game on 61 TS% over the last 9 games.

i think there is a strong chance NBA teams are much higher on him than we are, and I don't mean because we are low on him (he's top 20 for me currently) but like they might be top10 high on Flip.

top HS recruit, productive FS season at Duke, pretty safe prospect with some upside, valuable archetype as a stretch big that can rebound with some ball skills. it's not hard convincing yourself he should go top10.