Zach Edey, 7-4

[The Moose]

Seasonal EPM is now live: https://dunksandthrees.com/stats/player

Zach is +1.1 EPM [+0.8 off; +0.3 def]. Clingan is -2.4 EPM [-0.9 off; -1.5 def]. Jared McCain is +2.6 EPM [+3.2 off; -0.6 def]; Dalton Knecht is +1.8 EPM [+2.7 off; -0.9 def].

Full list atm

McCain +2.4 (89th percentile)
Knecht +1.8 (84th percentile)
Edey +1.1 (78th percentile)

Wells -0.1 (61st percentile)
Ajay Mitchell -1.1 (44th percentile)
Castle -1.2 (43rd percentile)
TDS -1.2 (43rd percentile)
Tyson -1.3 (41st percentile)
Mogbo -1.3 (41st percentile)
Dunn -1.5 (38th percentile)
Risacher -1.8 (33rd percentile)
Filipowski -2 (31st percentile)
Clingan -2.5 (21st percentile)
Sheppard -3.1 (14th percentile)
Missi -3.3 (11th percentile)
Carrington -3.4 (9th percentile)
George -3.5 (8th percentile)
Holland -4.1 (5th percentile)
Buzelis -4.4 (4th percentile)
Salaun -4.7 (3rd percentile)
Sarr -4.9 (1st percentile)
Cody -6.2 (1st percentile)

[ItsDanger]

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[MemphisX]

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[Chuck Everett]

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What I like about Zach, is he has a nasty streak. I'm intrigued for the second half of the season. This Grizz team still has another gear, even without Vince Williams and GG.

[FarBeyondDriven]

he's doing what I expected which is be a low-end (bottom 1/3 starter) starter in the same tier as Kessler, Zubac, Adams, WCJ. He is in arguably the best position of any of the 2024 picks as far as landing spot. He has a chance to be playing meaningful playoff games as a rookie which is pretty cool and he'll be a big part of the reason why.

[Braggins]

A lot of people conveniently forgot this thread existed.

[JMAC3]

A lot of people conveniently forgot this thread existed.

Nah, what he is doing is just so mid neither the haters or massive supporters have really anything to stand on.

He is playing 20 mpg, averaging 11 ppg and 7 rpg as a 22 year old.
Any other year that is like the 10th best rookie stat line, but this year's class is just performing terribly.

It would be one thing if he was 19 and doing this and he was on early in the development, but this is much more a Jaime Jacquez, Brandon Clarke, Willy Hernangomez type of impressive rookie year where they are likely to flatline or even possibly regress.

[Chuck Everett]

A lot of people conveniently forgot this thread existed.

Nah, what he is doing is just so mid neither the haters or massive supporters have really anything to stand on.

He is playing 20 mpg, averaging 11 ppg and 7 rpg as a 22 year old.
Any other year that is like the 10th best rookie stat line, but this year's class is just performing terribly.

It would be one thing if he was 19 and doing this and he was on early in the development, but this is much more a Jaime Jacquez, Brandon Clarke, Willy Hernangomez type of impressive rookie year where they are likely to flatline or even possibly regress.

His minutes could be perceived as a negative until you realize that Taylor Jenkins is playing a platoon of guys to keep his stars healthy. 12 guys are averaging 15mpg, with the highest being Bane at 28.1mpg. This argument is not in good faith.

[GoBobs]

All the people who said Edey would bust were totally wrong, and it was because they did not watch him play.

They preteneded to know something they didn't.

[JMAC3]

All the people who said Edey would bust were totally wrong, and it was because they did not watch him play.

They preteneded to know something they didn't.

You also said he was the next Shaq lol.

[JMAC3]

A lot of people conveniently forgot this thread existed.

Nah, what he is doing is just so mid neither the haters or massive supporters have really anything to stand on.

He is playing 20 mpg, averaging 11 ppg and 7 rpg as a 22 year old.
Any other year that is like the 10th best rookie stat line, but this year's class is just performing terribly.

It would be one thing if he was 19 and doing this and he was on early in the development, but this is much more a Jaime Jacquez, Brandon Clarke, Willy Hernangomez type of impressive rookie year where they are likely to flatline or even possibly regress.

His minutes could be perceived as a negative until you realize that Taylor Jenkins is playing a platoon of guys to keep his stars healthy. 12 guys are averaging 15mpg, with the highest being Bane at 28.1mpg. This argument is not in good faith.

I mean last night they played him 27 mins, he had 10 pts, 6 boards. Which is fine but doesn't do anything for me personally. The 19 and 20 year olds drafted around him will take bigger jumps in progress this summer and Edey will look even more mid.

11 ppg and 7 rpg is decent backup center numbers in the league.

[FrodoBaggins]

Assuming no serious injuries or health concerns, he's going to have a long career in the NBA.

[manlisten]

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Is this not considered tampering? I remember Doc Rivers got fined for glazing Kawhi when he was with Toronto.

[The Moose]

Nah, what he is doing is just so mid neither the haters or massive supporters have really anything to stand on.

He is playing 20 mpg, averaging 11 ppg and 7 rpg as a 22 year old.
Any other year that is like the 10th best rookie stat line, but this year's class is just performing terribly.

It would be one thing if he was 19 and doing this and he was on early in the development, but this is much more a Jaime Jacquez, Brandon Clarke, Willy Hernangomez type of impressive rookie year where they are likely to flatline or even possibly regress.

His minutes could be perceived as a negative until you realize that Taylor Jenkins is playing a platoon of guys to keep his stars healthy. 12 guys are averaging 15mpg, with the highest being Bane at 28.1mpg. This argument is not in good faith.

I mean last night they played him 27 mins, he had 10 pts, 6 boards. Which is fine but doesn't do anything for me personally. The 19 and 20 year olds drafted around him will take bigger jumps in progress this summer and Edey will look even more mid.

11 ppg and 7 rpg is decent backup center numbers in the league.

I see Edey's age is a big thing for you, 3 years from now where do you think he will rank in EPM/VORP in this class? He will most likely be 1st in both at the conclusion of this season

Also just as a note for the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate take if you go through the data, the vast majority of rookies who averaged 11+ and 7+ finished in the top 3-5 of the ROTY race
This is the list since 2010

[jasonxxx102]

I'm convinced that a handful of people in this thread don't watch Edey at all. They convinced themselves he was going to be some dominant NBA big man and now they just stick their head in the sand no matter happens. What a random measurement "rookies who averaged 11/7" like that means anything at all....

There is nothing special about Zach Edey. He's an end of the bench big who you can put in for maybe 20mpg to get some easy buckets and then sit him back on the bench when the minutes actually matter

[JMAC3]

I see Edey's age is a big thing for you, 3 years from now where do you think he will rank in EPM/VORP in this class? He will most likely be 1st in both at the conclusion of this season

Also just as a note for the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate take if you go through the data, the vast majority of rookies who averaged 11+ and 7+ finished in the top 3-5 of the ROTY race
This is the list since 2010

8 Rookies last year averaged 12 ppg.
8 Rookies averaged 11 ppg 2 years ago.
9 Rookies averaged 11 ppg 3 years ago.
9 Rookies averaged 11ppg 4 years ago.

Usually, 3-4 are averaging 16-21 ppg.

11 ppg is nowhere close to being in the ROY race, but it is this year because this class sucks as predicted. The best chance for this class to not suck is the 19/20 yr old guys taking massive leaps. Not sitting here trying to say wow Edey and Knecht are great rookies putting up 11 ppg as 22yrs+

3 years from now I think Edey will be a backup center and probably considered in the 12th- 15th best player from this class.

[TheSuzerain]

He is starting on the #2 seed in the West.

And people keep calling him a bench big.

[JMAC3]

He is starting on the #2 seed in the West.

And people keep calling him a bench big.

Probably because he is 9th in mpg for the Grizzlies? So he is a fake starter at this point.

Also here are the starts among Memphis bigs this year.
JJJ 20
Clarke 17
Aldama 11
Edey 11

[MemphisX]

I'm convinced that a handful of people in this thread don't watch Edey at all. They convinced themselves he was going to be some dominant NBA big man and now they just stick their head in the sand no matter happens. What a random measurement "rookies who averaged 11/7" like that means anything at all....

There is nothing special about Zach Edey. He's an end of the bench big who you can put in for maybe 20mpg to get some easy buckets and then sit him back on the bench when the minutes actually matter

It is different for a rookie starting on a team contending for a title and one starting for the Wizards.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I see Edey's age is a big thing for you, 3 years from now where do you think he will rank in EPM/VORP in this class? He will most likely be 1st in both at the conclusion of this season

Also just as a note for the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate take if you go through the data, the vast majority of rookies who averaged 11+ and 7+ finished in the top 3-5 of the ROTY race
This is the list since 2010

8 Rookies last year averaged 12 ppg.
8 Rookies averaged 11 ppg 2 years ago.
9 Rookies averaged 11 ppg 3 years ago.
9 Rookies averaged 11ppg 4 years ago.

Usually, 3-4 are averaging 16-21 ppg.

11 ppg is nowhere close to being in the ROY race, but it is this year because this class sucks as predicted. The best chance for this class to not suck is the 19/20 yr old guys taking massive leaps. Not sitting here trying to say wow Edey and Knecht are great rookies putting up 11 ppg as 22yrs+

3 years from now I think Edey will be a backup center and probably considered in the 12th- 15th best player from this class.

yawn.