All Things Luka Doncic

[reanimator]

Its a fact Harden is and was a way more creative ballhandler than Doncic. Doncic is a good handler because he has a tight handle not a creative one.

I agree. You know why I agree? Because you once again compared current Harden to current Doncic. Harden does in fact have more creative, better handles than Doncic, because he improved it a lot since high school.

Harden was using all types of counters in HS and at Arizona St that Doncic hasn't even begun to flash the ability to do.

And I'm being lenient on Doncic because there is nothing to even suggest he'll EVER be the distance or pull up shooter that Harden is and was.

[Oscar9992]

Lol at you, Doncic is already 225, and your blatant anti-euro bias strikes again. There is no way Harden was a better athlete at 18, when he wasn't a better athlete at 20. And saying he had better handles in his rookie year is also ridiculously dumb. Harden didn't even attempt the things at 20, that Doncic regularly does at 18. And yes, you did compare current Harden to him, everyone in this thread knows this, no matter how shamelessly you are trying to save face.

Exactly, Harden wasn't even better than Selafosha untill he got traded... 6'th man at best!

[pacersGM]

I also noticed recently doncic=magic johnson comps are becoming the norm around here thats kinda awesome.

I mean if i wouldnt watch a game of either nba college or euro ball in my life amd someone said a 18yr old is averaging 27 points and 4 assist per game in one of the best leagues in the world i would prob also say wow, he could be possible the best basketball player ever. But then again having watched some ball in my life i can say that such hunched over drives to the basket wont find as much success in the best league in the world as many are predicting, leaning totaly on the stats/age factor,

[J_T]

Harden was more athletic and had a good handle at 18.

Harden had good handles at 18, he didn't have better handles than Doncic, and he definitely wasn't stronger. Harden was like 190 pounds at 18.

You sure about that? Draftexpress says he was 222. In any case, there is no point discussing with posters biased against Doncic. It is becoming very clear that all of them are basically biased not against Doncic as a player, but against European players. There might be some racism involved there and if not racism then it's a simple American patriotism that is showing in the most unfortunate form. Reanimator's last post is a good example of that. Remember that this is a guy who claims that Doncic is not more athletic now than he was a year ago. That's pretty much case closed for me.

[J_T]

I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but maybe you just lack evaluation skills.

Why don't you help me develop those skills then? Show me in that video, with times, what exactly looks like something that Doncic is not able to do at the moment.

I can't pinpoint it to you.

It figures.

Btw, you did notice that parts of the video are in fast motion before it goes to normal speed right? Just checking, not trying to be rude or anything. Always look for possible sources of misunderstanding.

[reanimator]

Watch on YouTube

There are multiple instances in this footage of Harden bullying his defender to the rim and absorbing contact.

I have NEVER seen that from Doncic. Doncic is finesse around the rim.

Its just a bad comp.

[reanimator]

Lol at you, Doncic is already 225, and your blatant anti-euro bias strikes again. There is no way Harden was a better athlete at 18, when he wasn't a better athlete at 20. And saying he had better handles in his rookie year is also ridiculously dumb. Harden didn't even attempt the things at 20, that Doncic regularly does at 18. And yes, you did compare current Harden to him, everyone in this thread knows this, no matter how shamelessly you are trying to save face.

Exactly, Harden wasn't even better than Selafosha untill he got traded... 6'th man at best!

And yet I'm the one who is being called biased

Over a summer, Harden went from being worse than Selafosha to a MVP candidate?

A player who was drafted 3rd had no skills til he got to the NBA

[BoardCrusher]

Harden is a better athlete in terms of strength, verticality, body control and change of direction. Also has a better handle.

Russell got the Harden comps too til folks realized the gulf in physical/athletic profiles.

18-year-old Harden was not a better athlete than current Doncic, and definitely wasn't stronger. And I would also think that his handles weren't this good at 18. I remember rookie Harden well, he really wasn't that impressive, and he was already 20 at the time. I hope you didn't just compare current Harden to an 18-year-old kid...

Harden was more athletic and had a good handle at 18.

Watch on YouTube

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

[pacersGM]

The guy probably got a first glimpse of harden when he watched durant okc highlights. I also think harden getting picked 3th was solely a lucky guess ... not

[Johnny Firpo]

The guy probably got a first glimpse of harden when he watched durant okc highlights. I also think harden getting picked 3th was solely a lucky guess ... not

Harden was an amazing prospect, so is Doncic.

[reanimator]

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

Please compile highlights of Doncic bullying his defender to the rim, absorbing contact and sending his defenders flying back.

I'll wait.

[BoardCrusher]

you been repeating yourself since the last locked thread over and over again, its getting annoying.

It goes both ways. You after each game: doncic singlehanded destroyed zalgiris, doncic singlehanded destroyed efes, doncic sing... so the annoyment is mutual . And bball is a team sport. So no doncic without lasso, no 18yt old european champ without dragic, no singlehanded. You get it right?

Thats cause im actually watching games and im just posting facts(and if you watched the games you wouldknow he did singlehandedly destroy teams you mention above), while on the other end youre predicting the future with stats and give yourself a pat on the back each time you do it

[pacersGM]

The next season cant come fast enough for me! Im exited as we slovenians are getting another good nba player, but also exited to open some of your eyes as far as we wont be having discussion of doncic/hArden co mvp after a few years why it cant be possible? i cant teach you the feel for ball, so sorry i wont even try

[Rasho Brezec]

18-year-old Harden was not a better athlete than current Doncic, and definitely wasn't stronger. And I would also think that his handles weren't this good at 18. I remember rookie Harden well, he really wasn't that impressive, and he was already 20 at the time. I hope you didn't just compare current Harden to an 18-year-old kid...

Harden was more athletic and had a good handle at 18.

Watch on YouTube

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

You could look at footage all day and you wouldn't find one example of Doncic blowing by his defender and finishing at the rim through contact.

[pacersGM]

you been repeating yourself since the last locked thread over and over again, its getting annoying.

It goes both ways. You after each game: doncic singlehanded destroyed zalgiris, doncic singlehanded destroyed efes, doncic sing... so the annoyment is mutual . And bball is a team sport. So no doncic without lasso, no 18yt old european champ without dragic, no singlehanded. You get it right?

Thats cause im actually watching games and im just posting facts(and if you watched the games you wouldknow he did singlehandedly destroy teams you mention above), while on the other end youre predicting the future with stats and give yourself a pat on the back each time you do it

Sorry but i have to say now that you mentioned it, i find you also annoying. As you like to lean on your FACTS yes everyone can see he is a euro prodigy, but if it would be so easy linear, no one would even doubt him as a 1pick with such FACTS/Stats. But then again here we are, and the scouts, gms will still decide between jim and bagley ayton etc... cause the thing is not so simple /factual as your stats. You understand the above simple explenation?

[J_T]

Harden was more athletic and had a good handle at 18.

Watch on YouTube

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

You could look at footage all day and you wouldn't find one example of Doncic blowing by his defender and finishing at the rim through contact.

Same can be said of the video you posted. Literally there is not a single example of Harden blowing by his defender and finishing at the rim in the minute and 50 seconds of the video.

[Oscar9992]

The guy probably got a first glimpse of harden when he watched durant okc highlights. I also think harden getting picked 3th was solely a lucky guess ... not

Harden was an amazing prospect, so is Doncic.

Honestly, judging by highlights alone Doncic looks far better & more polished than Harden at 18.

Harden looks like he is playing against some teenage kids... No offence.

I am not saying Doncic will be better than Harden, NO!

But he is far ahead of Harden at 18.

[BoardCrusher]

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

Please compile highlights of Doncic bullying his defender to the rim, absorbing contact and sending his defenders flying back.

I'll wait.

This just shows you dont actually watch any his games and only go by his highlights, I dont need to make a video for you to prove you wrong, it seems like you really have an agenda here since youre trying so hard in every thread about doncic

It goes both ways. You after each game: doncic singlehanded destroyed zalgiris, doncic singlehanded destroyed efes, doncic sing... so the annoyment is mutual . And bball is a team sport. So no doncic without lasso, no 18yt old european champ without dragic, no singlehanded. You get it right?

Thats cause im actually watching games and im just posting facts(and if you watched the games you wouldknow he did singlehandedly destroy teams you mention above), while on the other end youre predicting the future with stats and give yourself a pat on the back each time you do it

Sorry but i have to say now that you mentioned it, i find you also annoying. As you like to lean on your FACTS yes everyone can see he is a euro prodigy, but if it would be so easy linear, no one would even doubt him as a 1pick with such FACTS/Stats. But then again here we are, and the scouts, gms will still decide between jim and bagley ayton etc... cause the thing is not so simple /factual as your stats. You understand the above simple explenation?

I remember your first post here, and how you pointed out a couple of times in your first sentence how YOU watch bball for so many years, how YOU knew who doncic is before any of supposedly never even heard of him, how YOU know so much about bball...

Its been hard to take your opinion seriously ever since bro, do you understand that?

[reanimator]

This just shows you dont actually watch any his games and only go by his highlights, I dont need to make a video for you to prove you wrong, it seems like you really have an agenda here since youre trying so hard in every thread about doncic

I've watched multiple games but are you claiming the highlights just fail to capture Doncic using his strength to bully defenders to the rim and then absorbing contact to finish?

[pacersGM]

it would literally take me 1 hour to make a 1:40 min highlight reel of doncic dunking, showcasing him just as athletic as harden is in the video, starting with the dunk from my sig

Please compile highlights of Doncic bullying his defender to the rim, absorbing contact and sending his defenders flying back.

I'll wait.

This just shows you dont actually watch any his games and only go by his highlights, I dont need to make a video for you to prove you wrong, it seems like you really have an agenda here since youre trying so hard in every thread about doncic

Thats cause im actually watching games and im just posting facts(and if you watched the games you wouldknow he did singlehandedly destroy teams you mention above), while on the other end youre predicting the future with stats and give yourself a pat on the back each time you do it

Sorry but i have to say now that you mentioned it, i find you also annoying. As you like to lean on your FACTS yes everyone can see he is a euro prodigy, but if it would be so easy linear, no one would even doubt him as a 1pick with such FACTS/Stats. But then again here we are, and the scouts, gms will still decide between jim and bagley ayton etc... cause the thing is not so simple /factual as your stats. You understand the above simple explenation?

I remember your first post here, and how you pointed out a couple of times in your first sentence how YOU watch bball for so many years, how YOU knew who doncic is before any of supposedly never even heard of him, how YOU know so much about bball...

Its been hard to take your opinion seriously ever since bro, do you understand that?

No BRO, i dont understand . Since everything i said in my first post is true. so the issues with me are al yours to handle, i dont have any with you, since you are a clear non factor judging by yoyr non existing facts and "knowledge and playing experience and so on" get it BRO?