Future draft classes

[Marcus]

Cade probably goes to UNC. And he would be the best player on UK, Duke, Unc. He's top 2 pick no doubt

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

[Duke4life831]

Cade probably goes to UNC. And he would be the best player on UK, Duke, Unc. He's top 2 pick no doubt

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

I currently have him #1. I'm a huge Jalen fan (obviously biased), I think he's the best passer in the class and that mixed with his 6'9 size is fantastic, but his jumper is not there yet (really good form though) and has big foot speed questions.

I like Clarke a lot, but I just don't think he has the overall impact as Cade.

I also think if (sounds like when) Kuminga reclassifies, I think he's going to be a favorite to go #1. Way too early big board for me

1. Kuminga
2. Cade
3. Green
4. Jalen
5. Clarke

[Marcus]

Cade probably goes to UNC. And he would be the best player on UK, Duke, Unc. He's top 2 pick no doubt

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

I currently have him #1. I'm a huge Jalen fan (obviously biased), I think he's the best passer in the class and that mixed with his 6'9 size is fantastic, but his jumper is not there yet (really good form though) and has big foot speed questions.

I like Clarke a lot, but I just don't think he has the overall impact as Cade.

I also think if (sounds like when) Kuminga reclassifies, I think he's going to be a favorite to go #1. Way too early big board for me

1. Kuminga
2. Cade
3. Green
4. Jalen
5. Clarke

Dont think i've seen your thoughts on Jalen Green yet. Please share sir.

[Duke4life831]

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

I currently have him #1. I'm a huge Jalen fan (obviously biased), I think he's the best passer in the class and that mixed with his 6'9 size is fantastic, but his jumper is not there yet (really good form though) and has big foot speed questions.

I like Clarke a lot, but I just don't think he has the overall impact as Cade.

I also think if (sounds like when) Kuminga reclassifies, I think he's going to be a favorite to go #1. Way too early big board for me

1. Kuminga
2. Cade
3. Green
4. Jalen
5. Clarke

Dont think i've seen your thoughts on Jalen Green yet. Please share sir.

I'm start off with, I get why anyone won't be too high on him. The raw athletic 6'5-6'6 guards/wings haven't been hitting at too high of a rate lately. I just really like the potential with the kid. 6'6 with easy athleticism and I like the foundation of his skill set, even if they aren't consistent yet. The jumper is slow, but the form isn't bad and I think it's definitely workable. Defense is inconsistent but I've seen times where he really has turned it up, and with his quickness the potential is obviously there.

I saw that you have Clarke over him, i totally get that. I really like Clarke's motor and skill set. Ask me another day and I could have Clarke ahead of Green.

This probably wouldve been a more accurate way of how I see this class.

Tier 1:
Kuminga
Cade

Tier 2:
Green
Clarke
Jalen

Tier 3:
Mobley
Maker
Ziarie
Boston

Any day I may have a different order inside the tiers. But that is probably my way too early view on this class.

[Marcus]

I currently have him #1. I'm a huge Jalen fan (obviously biased), I think he's the best passer in the class and that mixed with his 6'9 size is fantastic, but his jumper is not there yet (really good form though) and has big foot speed questions.

I like Clarke a lot, but I just don't think he has the overall impact as Cade.

I also think if (sounds like when) Kuminga reclassifies, I think he's going to be a favorite to go #1. Way too early big board for me

1. Kuminga
2. Cade
3. Green
4. Jalen
5. Clarke

Dont think i've seen your thoughts on Jalen Green yet. Please share sir.

I'm start off with, I get why anyone won't be too high on him. The raw athletic 6'5-6'6 guards/wings haven't been hitting at too high of a rate lately. I just really like the potential with the kid. 6'6 with easy athleticism and I like the foundation of his skill set, even if they aren't consistent yet. The jumper is slow, but the form isn't bad and I think it's definitely workable. Defense is inconsistent but I've seen times where he really has turned it up, and with his quickness the potential is obviously there.

I saw that you have Clarke over him, i totally get that. I really like Clarke's motor and skill set. Ask me another day and I could have Clarke ahead of Green.

This probably wouldve been a more accurate way of how I see this class.

Tier 1:
Kuminga
Cade

Tier 2:
Green
Clarke
Jalen

Tier 3:
Mobley
Maker
Ziarie
Boston

Any day I may have a different order inside the tiers. But that is probably my way too early view on this class.

Haven't seen enough Kuminga to really throw an opinion out but i'm curious to see because from what i've heard the kid has a lot to work with.

I'm actually pretty high on Green as well, my only issue is I see a kid that's playing with easy talent. By that I mean he's good enough to be ridiculously dominant if his motor ran revved at all times and there are spots where he looks too cool for school and VERY aware of how good he is. The things he brings to the table are tremendous though just curious to see how he grows and adapts when the talent and intensity requires him to be switched on always.

Clarke seems to have a good combo of talent and drive, i'd like a little more film to scrutinize his defense a bit more but shifty, good vision, strong handle (could be tighter) good jumper, strong, and while not on Jalen's level more than athletic enough.

Jalen Johnson right now might be my top guy and in the running with Clarke and Scottie Barnes as my favorites in terms of preference. I think Scottie might have a Draymond trajectory once he adds some size.

Mobley i'm just getting intrigued with. I saw signs of a higher IQ than i assumed and he moves extremely well for his size. Clearly needs to add weight but he doesn't play soft at all and I like his energy on defense more than i like Maker's at this point.

Williams and Boston i still need to look into. I'm admittingly late to both parties.


I know you're big on Cade, did you happen to notice his Verde counterpart Moses Moody? if so, thoughts?

[Marcus]

BTW off-topic:

Missed you guys. Looking forward to discussing these next few classes with yall.

[The-Power]

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

I currently have him #1.

Same here.

[clyde21]

Kuminga is a good athlete but I don't know if I see elite athlete yet

[azcatz11]

I've read back thru pages and it's amazing how spot on most of these posts are. Granted, there are a few misses but great thread to read

[Duke4life831]

Dont think i've seen your thoughts on Jalen Green yet. Please share sir.

I'm start off with, I get why anyone won't be too high on him. The raw athletic 6'5-6'6 guards/wings haven't been hitting at too high of a rate lately. I just really like the potential with the kid. 6'6 with easy athleticism and I like the foundation of his skill set, even if they aren't consistent yet. The jumper is slow, but the form isn't bad and I think it's definitely workable. Defense is inconsistent but I've seen times where he really has turned it up, and with his quickness the potential is obviously there.

I saw that you have Clarke over him, i totally get that. I really like Clarke's motor and skill set. Ask me another day and I could have Clarke ahead of Green.

This probably wouldve been a more accurate way of how I see this class.

Tier 1:
Kuminga
Cade

Tier 2:
Green
Clarke
Jalen

Tier 3:
Mobley
Maker
Ziarie
Boston

Any day I may have a different order inside the tiers. But that is probably my way too early view on this class.

Haven't seen enough Kuminga to really throw an opinion out but i'm curious to see because from what i've heard the kid has a lot to work with.

I'm actually pretty high on Green as well, my only issue is I a kid that's playing with easy talent. By that I mean he's good enough to be ridiculously dominant if his motor ran revved at all times and there are spots where he looks too cool for school and VERY aware of how good he is. The things he brings to the table are tremendous though just curious to see how he grows and adapts when the talent and intensity requires him to be switched on always.

Clarke seems to have a good combo of talent and drive, i'd like a little more film to scrutinize his defense a bit more but shifty, good vision, strong handle (could be tighter) good jumper, strong, and while not on Jalen's level more than athletic enough.

Jalen Johnson right now might be my top guy and in the running with Clarke and Scottie Barnes as my favorites in terms of preference. I think Scottie might have a Draymond trajectory once he adds some size.

Mobley i'm just getting intrigued with. I saw signs of a higher IQ than i assumed and he moves extremely well for his size. Clearly needs to add weight but he doesn't play soft at all and I like his energy on defense more than i like Maker's at this point.

Williams and Boston i still need to look into. I'm admittingly late to both parties.


I know you're big on Cade, did you happen to notice his Verde counterpart Moses Moody? if so, thoughts?

Limited on Moody. Two things stuck out from what I've seen, length and shooting. I don't know his wingspan, but it sure seems pretty damn long. Also his shooting, a little slow release, but seems to be a damn good shooter from what I've seen and what I've read. Didn't really get to see much of an off the dribble game from him though. More smooth athletically than explosive from what I've seen.

Definitely someone I need to see a lot more of before making any sweeping projections for. But gun to my head now, don't see a top 20 kind of pick from him.

Josh Hart, Allen Crabbe, Pat McCaw were all guys taken in the 30s. I can see him being that level of prospect maybe. Again this is me taking a shot in the dark though. Very limited on him, basically like him, thought he was solid but didn't stand out as a NBA prospect.

[Marcus]

I've read back thru pages and it's amazing how spot on most of these posts are. Granted, there are a few misses but great thread to read

I say it all the time. We have some great evaluators in here.

[Marcus]

I know you're big on Cade, did you happen to notice his Verde counterpart Moses Moody? if so, thoughts?

Limited on Moody. Two things stuck out from what I've seen, length and shooting. I don't know his wingspan, but it sure seems pretty damn long. Also his shooting, a little slow release, but seems to be a damn good shooter from what I've seen and what I've read. Didn't really get to see much of an off the dribble game from him though. More smooth athletically than explosive from what I've seen.

Definitely someone I need to see a lot more of before making any sweeping projections for. But gun to my head now, don't see a top 20 kind of pick from him.

Josh Hart, Allen Crabbe, Pat McCaw were all guys taken in the 30s. I can see him being that level of prospect maybe. Again this is me taking a shot in the dark though. Very limited on him, basically like him, thought he was solid but didn't stand out as a NBA prospect.

It's early and i think he's flying below the radar. He's not high on a lot of Mocks but i love his translatable skill set. I'm getting heavier into finding role players that do role player things. Tall kid, best shooter in HS, long arms, plays defense, and makes the right play. He's ideal 3&D for modern NBA. keep an eye out.

[Marcus]

You have Cade ahead of Jalen Johnson and Terrence Clarke?

I currently have him #1.

Same here.

Saw a little more Cade (read a Grant Hill comp) and i can see the love with him. Question for those with more knowledge how effective is Cade off ball?

[Marcus]

Watch on YouTube

[Marcus]

Watch on YouTube

impressive skill level for 15 years old
dior johnson on everyone's radar

been watching more Dior and the thing i find most impressive is his natural feel for the game and how he gets where he wants on the floor at any time. Its not like a Kyrie advanced handle type of situation but a D.Wade Ginobili kind of feel where he just sees ways to get to where he wants with baits, speed changes, adjusting his shoulder levels, and varying his strides to eat up the exact amount of space he wants on a given drive or movement to cause separation. His feel and style of play reminds me of that guy at the playground or local gym that never really played organized ball but just naturally gets it, naturally understands spacing, timing, and movement of all bodies on the floor. I'll be interested to see how/if physical gifts grow with his game and feel.

[tundraknight]

Damn this video makes Evan Mobley look like the next Kevin Garnett!

Watch on YouTube

[Marcus]

Damn this video makes Evan Mobley look like the next Kevin Garnett!

Watch on YouTube

I like this kid as a prospect. He uses his length well, active, engaged, and plays a big man's game. I think he's perfectly suited for todays game if he keeps this style and adds the necessary weight. Also shows high IQ in some of the footage I've been able to catch of him. Super interested to see how relevant he can make USC when he gets there. As of now he's the big i'm most interested in next to Ibou Badji (if you haven't seen check him out)


Sidenote: background music is LIT AF

[clyde21]

Mobley's a stud but let's be careful of highlight packages

and I agree with Marcus on the music

[Marcus]

Just gonna leave this right here

Watch on YouTube

Ibou Badji

He's slated for the 2021 draft class (the one with the wings) super raw but the potential is insane 17 years old, 7'1" 230lbs, 7'8" wingspan, 9'10" standing reach.

[Marcus]

Mobley's a stud but let's be careful of highlight packages

and I agree with Marcus on the music

yeah i'm always cautious with highlights packages (especially with bigs, shoutout Cliff Alexander) but in all the games i've seen of kid he's performed and he looks every bit of the part. Just needs to add the muscle cause he's slight AF. If he can get up to 225 by draft night he'll be workable.


Also, still can't find that beat lol