Luka Doncic

[a3r0d]

Doncic vs Brose basket in Euroleague with just 16 points on 6/11 shooting,3/5 on threes, 6 rebounds 5 assists and 3 steals in 19 minutes for 25 of valorization. Okish.

[kennydorglas]

This guy is ridiculous

[Kentavicius]

Watch on YouTube

[Kentavicius]

He's **** amazing.

Watch on YouTube

[BoardCrusher]

great game against Efes today.

his stepback three point shot seems to be unstopable

[kayath]

It is just hard to understand how good he already is. He is always looking for that extra pass which would lead to an easy basket.

[guille_4]

He's averaging 15 points, 7 assists and 6 rebounds and 1.6 steals per 36 whilst shooting .55 2PT%, .41 3PT% and .88 FT%.

In Real Madrid.

As a 17 year old.

Whilst coming up big time in the clutch.

[XTraderXL]

I was sure he will get the ball in the last Reals possession but Laso gave it to Carroll who had a terrible game both offensively and defensively and is playing bad the whole season. Doncic already showed he is clutch both from 3 and from FT line so I dont understand why Carroll got the ball. If Real lost the game, it would be on Laso.
To me its pretty amazing how Doncic always seem to play better in the second half. Looks like he adapts his game to the opposing team and comes out more aggressive and overall more effective. He does this almost every game this season which shows that he is both very coachable and has extremely high BBIQ. I really hope he goes to the NBA as soon as possible and that he will not stay in Europe after 2018.

[BillyKingGM]

He's averaging 15 points, 7 assists and 6 rebounds and 1.6 steals per 36 whilst shooting .55 2PT%, .41 3PT% and .88 FT%.

In Real Madrid.

As a 17 year old.

Whilst coming up big time in the clutch.

Yeah, but is he 6'7 or 6'9?!

[kayath]

He's averaging 15 points, 7 assists and 6 rebounds and 1.6 steals per 36 whilst shooting .55 2PT%, .41 3PT% and .88 FT%.

In Real Madrid.

As a 17 year old.

Whilst coming up big time in the clutch.

Yeah, but is he 6'7 or 6'9?!

The most important things here are his balls and they are big. Confirmed by mirotic12.

[GimmeDat]

Is he a PG or SG in the NBA?

[a3r0d]

By the time he gets to the nba he will probably be able to play comfortably SF with point guard duties.

[Johnny Firpo]

Is he a PG or SG in the NBA?

Right now he could play both, but who knows if he'll grow some more. He looks like rookie Tyreke out there, with an elite jumpshot.

[Johnny Firpo]

I really don't like stereotypical comparisons, but by the time of the 2018 draft I think he's going to be seen as a shorter Larry Bird and that his lack of elite athleticism is going to be put to the side. His actual game is going to be undeniable ...

I'm so glad someone else said this, but this is who he reminded me of while watching him play. I did not want to get ridiculed, but yeah. Obviously, there are no guarantees, but I'm pretty sure he is one of the best, and most skilled 17 year olds, ever. It's like he figured out the game already, it's quite amazing.

[jrob23]

My preliminary research into the 2018 draft has it being an outstanding draft with some special players in the lottery. I just don't see how he can be taken before these kids. Especially the top 8 or so players. If he's truly 6'7" with shoes on he'll have a tough time playing in the NBA. He doesn't have the fast twitch that Manu had at that size and he's definitely not the defender Manu was. He won't be able to play either guard position nor SF. His only hope is to grow 3 inches and keep his athleticism. That might give him a chance at being a Toni Kukoc type player. I'm sure some dumb G.M. (please don't let it be you Danny!) will take him at the end of the lottery though. They can't help themselves. They want to be the smartest guy in the room and ignore athleticism. Whatever his agent does, he needs to keep him away from combines or anywhere they will take measurements and times. Some poor fan base will see him be drafted by their team and for years they'll be calling for him to start or get major minutes and questioning the wisdom of the coach/G.M. for not doing so. Years later, he'll get some play as a savvy role player off the bench who might play point forward and that might be his niche. Can you imagine him going up against starting SF in the NBA. I'm a Celtic fan, so let's use Jaylen Brown. If Jaylen guarded him he wouldn't be able to put the ball on the floor. He wouldn't be able to get his shot off either. And Jaylen doesn't even start in this league.

Sorry to burst your bubble Euro guys...that league is trash. You could take the best starting five and they might not win a single game all year long in the NBA. Now, I'm not saying they aren't better than college. You'd have size and experience differences that would be hard to overcome. You'd have a hard time beating the top teams though. Doncic will be just like all the other overrated European guys. There's dozens of these good to great players that excel at a certain level but once you try to translate that to the NBA you can't.

Now, if some team wants to draft him and let him develop physically, get him in the weight room, work on his explosion..then in a few years there's a possibility he could start and be a decent but not great player. But he has to work his butt off and not mind being on the bench. Something tells me he'd opt to star in Europe over riding a bench in the NBA.

[SportsGuy8]

Sorry to burst your bubble Euro guys...that league is trash. You could take the best starting five and they might not win a single game all year long in the NBA.

2010 Los Angeles Lakers 88–92 Regal FC Barcelona
2010 Cleveland Cavaliers 87–90 CSKA Moscow
2012 Boston Celtics 91–97 Fenerbahçe Ülker
2012 Dallas Mavericks 85–99 FC Barcelona Regal
2013 Minnesota Timberwolves 106–108 CSKA Moscow
2014 San Antonio Spurs 93–94 Alba Berlin
2015 Brooklyn Nets 96–101 Fenerbahçe
2016 Oklahoma City Thunder 137–142 Real Madrid

My preliminary research into the 2018 draft ...

We now have to assume you always do a similar kind of "research", so we can safely disregard all your other opinions also.

[SportsGuy8]

I really don't like stereotypical comparisons, but by the time of the 2018 draft I think he's going to be seen as a shorter Larry Bird and that his lack of elite athleticism is going to be put to the side. His actual game is going to be undeniable ...

I'm so glad someone else said this, but this is who he reminded me of while watching him play. I did not want to get ridiculed, but yeah. Obviously, there are no guarantees, but I'm pretty sure he is one of the best, and most skilled 17 year olds, ever. It's like he figured out the game already, it's quite amazing.

Ha ha, yeah, I was actually also expecting someone to jump on me for writing that. He's obviously not going to be as good as Bird (we shouldn't forget just how sickly good he was), but they truly have so many similarities.

I do worry about one thing, though. As you said, it truly seems like he already figured out the game, and when you combine that with the fact that his body also seems extremely mature for his age, we have to wonder how much room for improvement he still has? Probably not that much, especially compared to basically everyone else his age. In this way he's like Rubio, for example, basically already being the player he's always going to be, with some small expected improvements.

With that said, even with just tiny improvements, he can end up being an All-Star or even All-NBA. But that's where his ceiling probably is.

[jolbin]

My preliminary research into the 2018 draft has it being an outstanding draft with some special players in the lottery. I just don't see how he can be taken before these kids. Especially the top 8 or so players. If he's truly 6'7" with shoes on he'll have a tough time playing in the NBA. He doesn't have the fast twitch that Manu had at that size and he's definitely not the defender Manu was. He won't be able to play either guard position nor SF. His only hope is to grow 3 inches and keep his athleticism. That might give him a chance at being a Toni Kukoc type player. I'm sure some dumb G.M. (please don't let it be you Danny!) will take him at the end of the lottery though. They can't help themselves. They want to be the smartest guy in the room and ignore athleticism. Whatever his agent does, he needs to keep him away from combines or anywhere they will take measurements and times. Some poor fan base will see him be drafted by their team and for years they'll be calling for him to start or get major minutes and questioning the wisdom of the coach/G.M. for not doing so. Years later, he'll get some play as a savvy role player off the bench who might play point forward and that might be his niche. Can you imagine him going up against starting SF in the NBA. I'm a Celtic fan, so let's use Jaylen Brown. If Jaylen guarded him he wouldn't be able to put the ball on the floor. He wouldn't be able to get his shot off either. And Jaylen doesn't even start in this league.

Sorry to burst your bubble Euro guys...that league is trash. You could take the best starting five and they might not win a single game all year long in the NBA. Now, I'm not saying they aren't better than college. You'd have size and experience differences that would be hard to overcome. You'd have a hard time beating the top teams though. Doncic will be just like all the other overrated European guys. There's dozens of these good to great players that excel at a certain level but once you try to translate that to the NBA you can't.

Now, if some team wants to draft him and let him develop physically, get him in the weight room, work on his explosion..then in a few years there's a possibility he could start and be a decent but not great player. But he has to work his butt off and not mind being on the bench. Something tells me he'd opt to star in Europe over riding a bench in the NBA.

Lol. Yeah, European teams suck.
Thats why Porzignis had better averages in NBA than in Europe.
Thats why Brandon Jennings couldnt play 5min in Europe and 1 year later scored 50 points in NBA.
From your expert analysis i can see that you only look for elite athleticism in a prospect. So yea, have your James Whites, Andre Drummonds and other guys who cant play a lick of basketball and contribute 0 to winning.

[jolbin]

I really don't like stereotypical comparisons, but by the time of the 2018 draft I think he's going to be seen as a shorter Larry Bird and that his lack of elite athleticism is going to be put to the side. His actual game is going to be undeniable ...

I'm so glad someone else said this, but this is who he reminded me of while watching him play. I did not want to get ridiculed, but yeah. Obviously, there are no guarantees, but I'm pretty sure he is one of the best, and most skilled 17 year olds, ever. It's like he figured out the game already, it's quite amazing.

Ha ha, yeah, I was actually also expecting someone to jump on me for writing that. He's obviously not going to be as good as Bird (we shouldn't forget just how sickly good he was), but they truly have so many similarities.

I do worry about one thing, though. As you said, it truly seems like he already figured out the game, and when you combine that with the fact that his body also seems extremely mature for his age, we have to wonder how much room for improvement he still has? Probably not that much, especially compared to basically everyone else his age. In this way he's like Rubio, for example, basically already being the player he's always going to be, with some small expected improvements.

With that said, even with just tiny improvements, he can end up being an All-Star or even All-NBA. But that's where his ceiling probably is.

Im also pretty sure his potential from this point on is not sky high anymore. But even if he stays at this level and doesnt improve one bit (unlikely knowing how he works hard and pays attention to details, and how he is THE project of both Real Madrid and Slovenian basketball federation) he can still be one very servicable player

[reanimator]

Looks like a high end utility player at the SF spot at this stage of development. Will be interesting to see where his physical and athletic development ends up. Already incredibly complete offensively at 17 and a surprisingly solid defender.