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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#181 » by No-Man » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:01 pm

Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...
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Post#182 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:30 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...


Yup any team can use a 6'9 3 that is a sharp shooter and should be a good defender from day 1. Give him a couple years and he will be a lethal scorer off the bounce and inside once he gets some weight on him.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#183 » by Marcus » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:33 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in Minnesota


Thinking they give K-Mart his walking papers and move Wiggins down to the 2 permanently?
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#184 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:38 pm

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Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in Minnesota


Thinking they give K-Mart his walking papers and move Wiggins down to the 2 permanently?


I think Ingram would be better at the 2 than Wiggins
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Post#185 » by LApwnd » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:37 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...

Simmons paired with brow would be crazy nice, also think he'll be perfect for bos, they have bunch of medicore talent all over but simmoms could open the offense for everyone . If bucks had better shooters would be crazy length on that bucks team. As much as sixer fans think they deserve to get simmons, its gona cause lot of fit issue with their big man rotation, if saric comes over they basically have to force noel/saric to the bench and with embiid back, ok4 might also be benched if embiid is really that good, dont see ok4 beimg able to play the 4
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#186 » by Westbreezy » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:22 am

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King Ken wrote:Simmons really isn't that far ahead of Ingram but he is ahead of him. Honestly, Ingram has the most potential in this class.


Agreed. I feel exactly the same, if the draft was today I'm taking Simmons. But with each month I feel like Ingram is slowly catching him. By the time the draft comes around I wont be surprised if Ingram catches him. Elite wing scorers that gave elite height and length are rare


Don't even forget that Ingram is a full year and 2 months younger than Simmons. :crazy:

The only thing I'm worried about is how freakishly lanky and skinny Ingram looks. After doing some research though, Kevin Durant looks almost identical at Texas.

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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#187 » by nurseryc » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:51 pm

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King Ken wrote:Simmons really isn't that far ahead of Ingram but he is ahead of him. Honestly, Ingram has the most potential in this class.


Agreed. I feel exactly the same, if the draft was today I'm taking Simmons. But with each month I feel like Ingram is slowly catching him. By the time the draft comes around I wont be surprised if Ingram catches him. Elite wing scorers that gave elite height and length are rare


Have to respectfully disagree about Ingram slowly catching Simmons. The only knock at all on Simmons game at all to this point was that he didn't have a jump shot. Aside from that Simmons was seen by many as a generational talent who could do it all, with one flaw. If anyone here watched his last game against Alabama, Simmons finally answered his critics and showed that he can hit the jumper and has trust in his outside game!!! On consecutive possessions against Alabama, Simmons took a pass, stepped into the lane from the elbow area and hit jumpers. At the start of the season he would never have done that which is the potential many scouts saw in him, but Simmons is only just realizing. It's amazing to see that Ben has confidence in his jumper and wants this to be a part of his arsenal, which was the only glaring weakness in his game. Ben Simmons with a jump shot really changes everything in terms of anyone challenging him and really blows away Ingram having any shot at the number 1 pick. Great respect to Ingram and he is very talented and coming along nicely however he has only been in number 1 talk to this point due to Simmons jump shot limitations. I expect as the college season continues that Ben will move further ahead with him finally taking and hitting jump shots and this will only be a one man race. In saying that if Simmons from here on in flat out refuses to take and make jump shots this will become a much closer race.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#188 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:32 pm

Marcus wrote:
Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in Minnesota


Thinking they give K-Mart his walking papers and move Wiggins down to the 2 permanently?


Martin already has a foot out the door.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#189 » by rick_21 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:38 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...


I think you're being very unfair to Ben Simmons. You say that in a way that makes it look like no team would be happy drafting Simmons, when actually is quite the opposite. Simmons is the consensus #1 pick for a reason.

It is true that Simmons has an unorthodox game that could need some particularities in the system around him in order to maximize his talent, but he is a truly special talent and his tools meke him a real difference maker. Most teams would be quite happy to land Simmons and tweak a little bit their rosters to make him comfortable.

Brandon Ingram has a completely different skillset, I see elite role player potential in him, and Will be easier to fit him in almost any team, but on the other hand I don't see the go-to guy potential that Simmons has, and that some teams are dying for.

Ingram could be a better fit for teams that already have talented, high-usage players and need shooting and defense more than another ball-handler/shot creator, for example: Minnesota, Milwaukee or Philadelphia. Denver could be as well depending on how much you value Mudiay.

Simmons would be a better choice for those teams that need more star power to build around like Boston, LA Lakers, Phoenix or New Orleans Pelicans. Portland as well is a tremendous fit for Simmons. A long range shooting point guard is just what Ben needs in order to open up space for his playmaking ability, and the Blazers have two dangerous shooters in Lillard and McCollum.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#190 » by Go_Hornets » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:50 pm

Ingram would be a terrible fit in Minnesota imo. They've already got 3 young scorers/ball dominating players on the wing with Wiggins, Lavine, and Shabazz.
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Post#191 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:26 pm

Lavine and Shabazz are not reasons to avoid drafting someone like Ingram. Those guys can stay or go, whatever. Ingram, Wiggins, Rubio and Towns definitely fits together, and that's what matters. I mean, is Simmons a poor fit on the Celtics because they have Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger and Tyler Zeller? And those guys are better than Lavine and Shabazz.
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Post#192 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:01 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:Lavine and Shabazz are not reasons to avoid drafting someone like Ingram. Those guys can stay or go, whatever. Ingram, Wiggins, Rubio and Towns definitely fits together, and that's what matters. I mean, is Simmons a poor fit on the Celtics because they have Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger and Tyler Zeller? And those guys are better than Lavine and Shabazz.


Agreed. Ingram can easily play the 2. So you're talking about 4 young guys that all have two way potential. You take that chance and run. He's a great fit for Minnesota
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#193 » by Dcebucks11 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:32 am

Ingram reminds me of Rashard Lewis, he would be a fine fit in Minnesota, he does not need the ball in his hands
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#194 » by Killboard » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:19 pm

Simmons is a lock at the first pick, the guy is a freak and will be almost impossible to pass for any team. But when all is said and done I think Ingram will be the best player of the two. His game is more team oriented and his lenght will cause so many miss matches that I think his transition will be softer than Simmons.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#195 » by lastmanstanding » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:06 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:
King Ken wrote:Simmons really isn't that far ahead of Ingram but he is ahead of him. Honestly, Ingram has the most potential in this class.


Agreed. I feel exactly the same, if the draft was today I'm taking Simmons. But with each month I feel like Ingram is slowly catching him. By the time the draft comes around I wont be surprised if Ingram catches him. Elite wing scorers that gave elite height and length are rare


Don't even forget that Ingram is a full year and 2 months younger than Simmons. :crazy:

The only thing I'm worried about is how freakishly lanky and skinny Ingram looks. After doing some research though, Kevin Durant looks almost identical at Texas.

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I think Kevin Durant had him by like 30 lbs. Until he gains some significant weight and strength, he will struggle getting to the rim and playing D in the NBA. If he can get that weight he should be pretty damn good.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#196 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:09 pm

We will see at the combine, KD who imo is taller, was at 215 at the same age Ingram will be in May, Ingram was measured at 195-200 prior to this season, I think they would probably measure similarly in that regard, and Durant has an inch on him for sure in height.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#197 » by Renegade_H » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:17 pm

As a Sixers fan, I honestly prefer Ingram. But turning down a superstar like Simmons would make us even more of a laughingstock to the NBA. I feel that we could get future assets from the team at #2 and still get the player we want in Ingram. I actually really really like Dunn for the Sixers. Will JC force Hinkie's hand to select based on fit over BPA? Doubt it.

But I could see us dangling Okafor and LAL pick for Dunn + future. Add Ingram, Dunn, and futures to our team would be a pretty good draft.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#198 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:19 pm

Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...

I'd love for Milwaukee to get Ingram. Perfect fit. With him and Middleton at the wings, they can get by with MCW at the point.
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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#199 » by StaticRoar » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:48 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Fischella wrote:Ingram will fit perfectly in LA, Philly, Boston, Minnesota and Phoenix, or NOLA, Denver, Milwaukee (if they play Giannis at C) and Portland any team with a shot at the top3 is a good option for him.

Simmons on the other hand...

I'd love for Milwaukee to get Ingram. Perfect fit. With him and Middleton at the wings, they can get by with MCW at the point.


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Re: Brandon Ingram 

Post#200 » by TKainZero » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:15 pm

People think ingram is going to be a NBA sg?

how many 6'9 SG are there?
can he chase around small combo guards?
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