Potential sleepers

Swoosh_Stripes · Post #181 » by **Swoosh_Stripes** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:18 pm

Has Zach Leday been mentioned for VTech? He's a Red-shirt Sophmore and plays for a coach, Buzz Williams, that has a good track of developing good/great defensive players. He's listed at 6'7" 235lbs, which makes him a tweener, but with the current success of guys like Draymond Green and Jae Crowder some team will/should give this kid a shot.

Justwar · Post #182 » by **Justwar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:41 pm

EMG518 wrote:
Justwar wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
Nah, they are different athletically. Have you seen Hield on the break, guys is faster and more explosive than Meeks, he is bigger and alot longer as well. Like I said that makes a difference at the next level. Ulis is a bit shorter than Isaiah but that really isnt the point, the point is he is less explosive while being 25lbs lighter. There isnt a guy his size in the league. He would have to be an incredible player with elite athletic ability to make it and he doesnt have that adequate athletic ability at his size in my opinion. Have you seen the guys that size in the league in the past, they are insanely quick or explosive. He isnt.

Meeks and hield are both 6'4 in shoes just like ulis and Thomas are 5"10 in shoes.

1.That is false, one would just need to check measurements to confirm it to be false.
2.Why are you even responding with that, I have no idea. Even if it were true which it isnt, what is the difference. If they were the same height then what, that negates what was said somehow?

When dealing with facts your either wrong or right, check draftexpress.

Justwar · Post #183 » by **Justwar** » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:48 pm

Without shoes ulis is . 75 shorter hes got the same wingspan, better standing vertical, 1 inch less running vertical. He can in fact dunk. And he can play basketball.

Post #184 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:04 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Yeah, Blackmon also has great advanced metrics this year, at least offensively, I'm not sure why there isn't more talk about Blackmon.

The way the scouts talk about him, he's a shooter that can't drive and I don't think they've seen him play PG - with his size, that's probably the position they'd be looking at. But with his wingspan, he might be a decent SG. Worse, they say is mobility is average, so they're not very sure how good his defense will translate into the NBA. Even if all he can do is shoot, he can certainly do that well and I think some team might surprise everyone and take him mid-to-late-first-round.

Dr Positivity · Post #185 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:26 am

Blackmon's stats are really good but he's only played just over 300 minutes so far, so the sample size isn't quite as strong as the other advanced stats performers

babyjax13 · Post #186 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:08 am

I'll throw some LATE 2nd round sleepers out there:

(1) Josh Adams, WY: 24p 6r 4a 44% FG 38% 3PT (undrafted - DX)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLQoyqgISA[/youtube]
Incredible athlete, solid shooter with good mechanics. Struggles with turnovers, not necessarily a "point" guard.

(2) Joel Bolomboy 17p 13r 1a 1s 1b 57% FG 37% 3PT (58 - DX)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oDmLigJi50[/youtube]
Weber fans will be familiar with him. As someone who has seen him play extensively against Idaho State, I can confirm that he is simply the best player in the Big Sky, and has been for a while. Can hit threes, has a nice jumper, and incredibly athletic.

(3) Kay Felder 24p 4r 9a 44% FG 35% 3PT (56 - DX)
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58dbD_p1XKo[/youtube]
Undersized point, but very athletic, good scorer, very good passer.

treefi · Post #187 » by **treefi** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:43 pm

AJ Hammons lookin' more and more like a legitimate starting NBA center.

Negrodamus · Post #188 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:47 pm

Isaiah Briscoe is the best driving guard at UK. Great handles, finishes through contact better than almost anyone in the country, one of the better backcourt defenders in the country, plays with a ridiculously high motor, dishes to the open man frequently when driving in the lane, and is one of UKs best rebounders. He is everything you look for in a point guard prospect...

... except he's all-time terrible at shooting. I don't know if that will be a problem for you guys.

janmagn · Post #189 » by **janmagn** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:23 pm

Tyler Ulis was just named SEC Defensive Player of the Year. With that he rose to late 1st round conversation. Is he a sleeper anymore?

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Johnlac1 · Post #190 » by **Johnlac1** » Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:53 pm

treefi wrote:AJ Hammons lookin' more and more like a legitimate starting NBA center.

Hammons proves that players can still improve every year. He was a decent center last year, but centers like Kaminsky were definitely better. Hammons has actually improved from last year to this year making himself a legitimate NBA prospect.

No-Man · Post #191 » by **No-Man** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:26 pm

Biggest sleeper is still Juancho Hernangómez, he should be a lock to go lotto and he is still unnoticed by most people and rated as a late 1st from the big scouting names/webs, which is just ludicrous.

doordoor123 · Post #192 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:15 pm

Fischella wrote:Biggest sleeper is still Juancho Hernangómez, he should be a lock to go lotto and he is still unnoticed by most people and rated as a late 1st from the big scouting names/webs, which is just ludicrous.

Yeah, he should be a lottery pick, but lacks familiarity. Expect more talk about him around draft time. Could even make a jump in this weak class.

Mylie10 · Post #193 » by **Mylie10** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:06 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Biggest sleeper is still Juancho Hernangómez, he should be a lock to go lotto and he is still unnoticed by most people and rated as a late 1st from the big scouting names/webs, which is just ludicrous.

Yeah, he should be a lottery pick, but lacks familiarity. Expect more talk about him around draft time. Could even make a jump in this weak class.

Can you expand?

Because his shooting numbers aren't great. If he's going to be an sf/pf, he needs to shoot the three better.

doordoor123 · Post #194 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:59 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Biggest sleeper is still Juancho Hernangómez, he should be a lock to go lotto and he is still unnoticed by most people and rated as a late 1st from the big scouting names/webs, which is just ludicrous.

Yeah, he should be a lottery pick, but lacks familiarity. Expect more talk about him around draft time. Could even make a jump in this weak class.

Can you expand?

Because his shooting numbers aren't great. If he's going to be an sf/pf, he needs to shoot the three better.

He shoots spot-up threes fine, it's his threes off the dribble and slow release that are troubling. He just needs to learn to pick his shots better. I actually think the farther 3pt line in the NBA will give him much more time to get his shot off and I think he's going to be making a lot more. And I think he's more of a PF than an SF/PF. He can do a little bit of everything. Good frame, finishes through contact, has a little bit of a post game and spot up game. He even has a nice step back. I see him as a Mirza Teletovic kind of player with better mobility and more bounce to his step. Also a good passer and has a handle.

sweetcity · Post #195 » by **sweetcity** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:54 pm

Hernangomez looks like a mid first rounder to me. If the Raps had a pick around 15 overall I'd be all over him!

janmagn · Post #196 » by **janmagn** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:59 pm

sweetcity wrote:Hernangomez looks like a mid first rounder to me. If the Raps had a pick around 15 overall I'd be all over him!

So you want another guy who is two years away being two years away? [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]

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Coeur · Post #197 » by **Coeur** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:25 pm

Dejounte Murray and Josh Adams.

doordoor123 · Post #198 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:39 pm

Coeur wrote:Dejounte Murray and Josh Adams.

I saw Dejounte Murray live and was not impressed at all. He looked like he wasn't a point guard, but also not a shooting guard. He's just an athlete, but an amazing athelete. Not good at reading plays, not a good passer, not a good handler, but he's 6'7 and is so quick he beats point guards down the floor. He has the tools to be a very good player in time, but I guarantee if he were drafted this year he would be in the D-league for the next two years (at least). If he waits he could be a top 10 pick in a couple of years.

Justwar · Post #199 » by **Justwar** » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:46 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Isaiah Briscoe is the best driving guard at UK. Great handles, finishes through contact better than almost anyone in the country, one of the better backcourt defenders in the country, plays with a ridiculously high motor, dishes to the open man frequently when driving in the lane, and is one of UKs best rebounders. He is everything you look for in a point guard prospect...

... except he's all-time terrible at shooting. I don't know if that will be a problem for you guys.

He's most likely returning but his shooting issues is mostly mental. He was a solid shooter in hs. I expect him to make huge strides next year. And to those talking about Blackmon I have heard he's transferring unless crean is fired. Kentucky could be in play.

Negrodamus · Post #200 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:54 pm

Justwar wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Isaiah Briscoe is the best driving guard at UK. Great handles, finishes through contact better than almost anyone in the country, one of the better backcourt defenders in the country, plays with a ridiculously high motor, dishes to the open man frequently when driving in the lane, and is one of UKs best rebounders. He is everything you look for in a point guard prospect...

... except he's all-time terrible at shooting. I don't know if that will be a problem for you guys.

He's most likely returning but his shooting issues is mostly mental. He was a solid shooter in hs. I expect him to make huge strides next year. And to those talking about Blackmon I have heard he's transferring unless crean is fired. Kentucky could be in play.

He could. I think it depends on how he shows up in the tourney and how far we make it.

If we make it to the Elite Eight and he is a driving force behind that, he's gone. There are plenty of players that could have come back and dominated but didn't because they would get drafted in the first round.