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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#181 » by remi_222 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:54 am

bravor wrote:Na he is right. Sengun was killing in the Euroleague before geting drafted. Wait. he was not... And there are numerous examples (incl. top picks who went from Europe to ncaa or nbl).
EL used to be a decent way to monitor best prospects development, but not anymore. Too many teams relying on experienced players and we are far from the Fortitudo playing both Mancinelli/Belinelli at around 18 yers old (or Batum with Le Mans at 17/18 and Gallinari at the same age) with quite a decent amount of minutes. I am not gonna pretend tracking all euro prospects, but for me it stoped being a league where best euro youngsters were playing relevant time in the beginning of the 2010 (up to mid 10ies).
Last exemple was Advija who did not play a lot of mn in the El with the MTA.

Mirotic* is acting like there are Doncic everywhere. Well not. He is a once in a blue moon exception, and its geting worst year after year.

The good plan for young players is to develop and improve their game. Not to be relevant at all cost in a league that will encourage the HC to bench him everytime he does a rookie mistake.
And so far, it does work for most of them. If working means geting a guaranteed nba contract, with the development behind.

Eurocup level is better than what you say. Otherwise the winners of the EC would not perform so well in the all mighty Euroleague.

Anyway Victor won't play in any european cup so far. He apprently chose the project of Boulogne-Levallois and that team (which finished 3st of the regular season) is not qualified for either the EC or the BCL.
Unlike the 15th of our league and the 11th. Go figure, but ECA is amazing i know.


ps : And i forgot to add that Eurocup used to be a good place to see young prospects develop. Best examples are teams like Hemofarm Vrsac who had their fantastic trio of Markovic-Macvan-Marjanovic back in the end of the 2000.
Anyway, even if i am disappointed by Victor's choice (he should have chosen a project with either EC or the BCL), that wont prevent him from working on his body/game to get ready for the next big step for him.

Anyway, we will see. European cups are a mess right now (talking about the choices from the organizations which are far from stemming from results merit, as if in the nba a spot in post season was always granted to the Lakers even when they s* just because they are the Lakers).

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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#182 » by zimpy27 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:51 pm

It's not a big advantage to be a lot taller in the NBA without the mass in the lower body

The taller you are the further the ball needs to travel from your hand to the floor and the higher your center of gravity. These are things that make it hard to use your height in the key on offense in the NBA.

Wemby will be a perimeter player in the NBA and a defensive anchor. KP is the guy you should be looking at. If he can be a more health-resilient form of that then he will certainly have the chance to be a star.

My main issue with Wemby is that he hasn't shown much passing and vision, that's an important tool for bigs in the modern NBA and pretty essential for a superstar perimeter player. Maybe he has it but it hasn't been shown off yet.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#183 » by remi_222 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:59 am

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Interview during the Bronny James game in Paris (lost vs french prospects 8-) ) his english is even impressive than his bball level !!!
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#184 » by remi_222 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:52 am

1st game of the season yesterday, here are the highlights !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=117&v=sMoY28c1JK0&feature=emb_title
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#185 » by a-French-Fan » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:53 am

remi_222 wrote:1st game of the season yesterday, here are the highlights !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=117&v=sMoY28c1JK0&feature=emb_title


And it was even not a good game with 23 pts and 10 rbd
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#186 » by peZt » Sun Sep 25, 2022 10:48 am

Ucanuwill in shambles right now after trying to convince everyone he was the worst offensive player of all time (based on his first 10 games as a 17 year old pro)
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#187 » by remi_222 » Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:42 pm

a-French-Fan wrote:
remi_222 wrote:1st game of the season yesterday, here are the highlights !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=117&v=sMoY28c1JK0&feature=emb_title


And it was even not a good game with 23 pts and 10 rbd


Absolutely ! Bad choices at the end of the game, even if he put the 3 that bring them back at -9, lack of energy in screens set, but the rythm will come along the season.
As he said, he chose to sign with Levallois bc the whole project will be around him, and he never had that, he always have been playing with 2-3 yrs in advance with players older than him so never was the center point of the project. Now with this new team, new coach he will be the face of the team and his goal is very simple : be able to be the man of a team, and make sure he's the number one pick in the NBA by showing that he can carry a team that can win games.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#188 » by remi_222 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:31 am



10 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 blocks : a win but his first real bad game, frustrated for him. But you can see amazing flashes in some moves, im actually happy he struggles in the beginning of the yr so we can see how he adjusts. Also not having vets around him makes him be more a focus point. he's gotta adjust and learn ! all great news
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#189 » by remi_222 » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:49 am



Game 3 : way more polished ! his ability to run the floor is absolutely amazing ! his awareness defensively is on point ! Same way Gobert does !! Still many mistakes but soooo promising
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#190 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:40 pm

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Game 3 : way more polished ! his ability to run the floor is absolutely amazing ! his awareness defensively is on point ! Same way Gobert does !! Still many mistakes but soooo promising


He looks a lot faster than the last time I watched him play. I like how he uses his reach to make passing in his area hard, and he pokes at the ball well. Him closing out and blocking 3's is encouraging, shows a movement level other 7'3+ guys don't have.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#191 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 1, 2022 7:25 pm

its absurd that legit 7 footers look small next to this guy
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#192 » by shotsquatch » Mon Oct 3, 2022 1:16 am

clyde21 wrote:its absurd that legit 7 footers look small next to this guy

For sure, although it's a little hard to tell since I don't recognize any of his opponents. Victor makes every center look 6'10".

I think his length will be even more apparent on an NBA court, when we see him next to familiar players like Gobert and Giannis.

I remember seeing Embiid in his first game and thinking woah, this guy is freaky huge. I'm guessing Victor will elicit a similar reaction.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#193 » by UcanUwill » Mon Oct 3, 2022 12:20 pm

shotsquatch wrote:
clyde21 wrote:its absurd that legit 7 footers look small next to this guy

For sure, although it's a little hard to tell since I don't recognize any of his opponents. Victor makes every center look 6'10".

I think his length will be even more apparent on an NBA court, when we see him next to familiar players like Gobert and Giannis.

I remember seeing Embiid in his first game and thinking woah, this guy is freaky huge. I'm guessing Victor will elicit a similar reaction.


I remember not knowing how tall he really was, I imagined skightly over 7 feet, when they were saying that Canadian Eddy kid is 7'4, I thought it was pure BS, cause VW was taller than him. But after seeing him in Euroleague against guys I know... Holly crap this guy is tall, he makes talest Euroleague players look shorter, he seriously is about 7'5 no question. I remember watching one game, got kind of zoned out for a minute, came back and saw a shot of VW in a foreground and I see opponent guy checking in and passing VW by. My mind was instantly - Oh, Lukas Lekavicius is checking in. Lukas Lekavicius is 5'9, he is probably the shortest player in Euroleague. Then few seconds passed by, and I was like - wait a a minute, thats not Lukas, that is freaking Tyler Cavanough. Tyler Cavanough is 6'9, but VW just standing in front made me confuse Cacanough for a guy who is freaking under 6 feet.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#194 » by Johnny Firpo » Wed Oct 5, 2022 2:37 pm



Wow. Just wow.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#195 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Oct 5, 2022 2:50 pm

Is Wembanyama looking that comfortable shooting the ball a relatively new development?

That looks much cleaner than I remember.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#196 » by clyde21 » Wed Oct 5, 2022 3:33 pm

hes pretty good
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#197 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Oct 5, 2022 4:38 pm

i was one that wasn't convinced he should go #1 simply due to concerns about injury - after seeing him last night, that is a risk you absolutely have to take. he's THAT good already with THAT much potential to be a once in a lifetime player.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#198 » by Marcus » Wed Oct 5, 2022 5:44 pm

clyde21 wrote:hes pretty good


all of that was absolutely silly to watch. that's a few years in the weight room away from being in "top big in the league" convos.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#199 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Oct 5, 2022 8:01 pm

His shooting mechanics are absurd for someone his size. IDK how consistent he gets, but for someone that lanky with hands I can only assume are giagantic to have a stroke like that, its just insane.

Kid is a total, absolute freak. And he seems hungry, like his confidence in a good way is growing with his hype. All the talent in the world doesnt mean anything if you dont want it, seems like he does.

Probably the best mover over 7'1/7'2 since college era Ralph Sampson.
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Re: 16 year old prospect: Victor Wembanyama 

Post#200 » by DaddyCool19 » Wed Oct 5, 2022 8:39 pm

I wonder if it would be better for him, if he was a bit shorter. There are not that many +7'4 guys, who had a long and healthy career. I mean he would still be considered a unicorn at 7'1 without shoes. That would make him around Gobert and Porzingis size.

I would still draft him with the first pick, but would have less worries if he was bit shorter.

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