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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#181 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:30 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:Knicks should trade RJ, filler and #11 to move up with OKC to get him. I think Sharpe is the #1 franchise defining talent they desperately need. RJ is a #3 at best. Sharpe seems like the type who will force his way to a big market like Kobe, just going by the way he manipulated the system at Kentucky. Knicks have some intriguing pieces OKC might like and OKC could still get their rim running big at #11 (Duren or Williams) while getting a scorer in RJ to pair with their playmakers SGA and Giddey. I just can't see a guy like Sharpe happy going to IND, OKC, SAC or POR. Sharpe really could go as #2. I can't see HOU taking him with Green in the fold. They're way too similar though I think Sharpe is more gifted/talented.


Gotta need to find another trade partner. OKC has #12 from the Clippers and have no reason to move down with his own draft pick.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#182 » by tmorgan » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:51 pm

I just have this feeling that once teams see Chet cannot gain weight, Paolo can’t move laterally, and Jabari can’t create off the dribble…. Sharpe and all his mystery ends up going first.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#183 » by SNPA » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:06 am

tmorgan wrote:I just have this feeling that once teams see Chet cannot gain weight, Paolo can’t move laterally, and Jabari can’t create off the dribble…. Sharpe and all his mystery ends up going first.

Legit possible IMO. Not high odds, but chance exists.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#184 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:58 pm

tmorgan wrote:I just have this feeling that once teams see Chet cannot gain weight, Paolo can’t move laterally, and Jabari can’t create off the dribble…. Sharpe and all his mystery ends up going first.

what about Ivey?

And he's only 19 yrs old, so if anyone ever does come to the conclusion that "chet can't gain weight" it won't be for at least 3 years from now so not something that would affect where chet gets drafted. Most players look very different body-wise at age 22/23 than they do at age 19..

Lots of risk with that 1st pick if you get it wrong. Picking a guy who we aren't really sure how well he can shoot, pass or defend vs elite competition 1st overall is a huge risk. I say shooting because sharpe coming out of HS is known to be a good but not great shooter. Jaden Hardy was known as a great shooter coming out of HS but then once he faced real competition in the g-league he couldn't even hit 30% of his 3's. and even at the HS level, we haven't really seen anything elite in terms of passing or defense.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#185 » by tmorgan » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:29 pm

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tmorgan wrote:I just have this feeling that once teams see Chet cannot gain weight, Paolo can’t move laterally, and Jabari can’t create off the dribble…. Sharpe and all his mystery ends up going first.

what about Ivey?

And he's only 19 yrs old, so if anyone ever does come to the conclusion that "chet can't gain weight" it won't be for at least 3 years from now so not something that would affect where chet gets drafted. Most players look very different body-wise at age 22/23 than they do at age 19..

Lots of risk with that 1st pick if you get it wrong. Picking a guy who we aren't really sure how well he can shoot, pass or defend vs elite competition 1st overall is a huge risk. I say shooting because sharpe coming out of HS is known to be a good but not great shooter. Jaden Hardy was known as a great shooter coming out of HS but then once he faced real competition in the g-league he couldn't even hit 30% of his 3's. and even at the HS level, we haven't really seen anything elite in terms of passing or defense.


Typically, you’d be right about the weight thing, but Chet is different. Just look at him. The only guy that looks anything like him in the league is Poku, and he’s having the same difficulties.

I love Chet. I wouldn’t mind if the Pistons drafted him. But that issue is real and Isn’t going away.

As for Ivey, he has his own warts, just like everyone in this draft. Fugly looking jumper, questionable passing skills. Amazing slasher and athlete in general, of course. I do think the five guys we’re discussing here are the top five picks, but I personally have Ivey 5th.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#186 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 29, 2022 10:35 pm

It's impossible to be only 6'6" and get drafted #1 overall out of high school. There has never been a player that height or shorter great enough as a high school prospect. He would have to be in the same conversation of Lebron as a prospect.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#187 » by Hal14 » Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:44 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:It's impossible to be only 6'6" and get drafted #1 overall out of high school. There has never been a player that height or shorter great enough as a high school prospect. He would have to be in the same conversation of Lebron as a prospect.

lebron is 6'9" so by your logic sharpe would have to be even more skilled than lebron, since he's 6'6".

there was of course one player who was 6'6" who went from HS to the pros who was worthy of going number 1. Kobe bryant, a once in a generation talent. Obviously Sharpe isn't in kobe's class..
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#188 » by tmorgan » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:43 am

Lolz. Where someone gets drafted depends on who is picking and who else is available. It’s also a function of current league dynamics, and right now guys with range than can get their own shot are in high demand.

If you take Sharpe #1, who are you passing on? This draft looks reasonably deep, but the top end talent seems a lot sketchier than usual. I’d definitely take Sharpe over Ivey or any other guard. I have Daniels third in that group.

So it comes down to the best wings and bigs. There aren’t any true centers worthy of a super high pick. It all comes down to Chet, Jabari and Paolo. And all three of those guys have concerning flaws, just like Sharpe’s lack of experience.

It could happen.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#189 » by The Moose » Mon May 2, 2022 1:47 am

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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#190 » by CptCrunch » Mon May 2, 2022 2:37 am

Lol, no way he recorded 49 in. Inflated vertical basically means artificially deflated/fudged height/wingspan numbers. Sharpe is gonna skip combines.

All Sharpe's camp does is lie. I have very bad feelings about his handlers.

Regardless, the kid is athletic in terms of hops.
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Post#191 » by MemphisX » Mon May 2, 2022 5:11 am

CptCrunch wrote:Lol, no way he recorded 49 in. Inflated vertical basically means artificially deflated/fudged height/wingspan numbers. Sharpe is gonna skip combines.

All Sharpe's camp does is lie. I have very bad feelings about his handlers.

Regardless, the kid is athletic in terms of hops.



What have they lied about? Don't give me "reports" either. Show something they have lied about on the record.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#192 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon May 2, 2022 5:18 am

CptCrunch wrote:Lol, no way he recorded 49 in. Inflated vertical basically means artificially deflated/fudged height/wingspan numbers. Sharpe is gonna skip combines.

All Sharpe's camp does is lie. I have very bad feelings about his handlers.

Regardless, the kid is athletic in terms of hops.


This is like when Va Tech would have a guy run a 4.1 at their pro day like every year, and show up at the combine and it be like a 4.38 lol.

He probably had a really impressive vertical, that they'll hype as 49 inches, and whoever drafts him will hype it all summer to their fans, along with the 3 inches he grows and 25 pounds of pure muscle he added.

Private workouts nobody can watch always just happen to have the longest wingspan, biggest height, and super verticals of all time.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#193 » by The Moose » Mon May 2, 2022 5:22 am

Its probably a similar situation to last year with Keon Johnson who seemed to fudge his standing reach and recorded a 48 inch vert as a result
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#194 » by Dame Lizard » Mon May 2, 2022 6:39 am

The Moose wrote:Its probably a similar situation to last year with Keon Johnson who seemed to fudge his standing reach and recorded a 48 inch vert as a result
Pat Connaughton too. Pat is uber athletic, but he had something like a 48" vertical and 44" standing very. With super low standing reach.

Clearly some artificially overly low reach + overly high numbers happening there.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#195 » by K_chile22 » Mon May 2, 2022 2:39 pm

I don't feel comfortable putting Sharpe on my board at all just because so much of his stock is going to come from teams bringing him in for workouts and their own measurements, as I'm assuming he won't go to the combine, and we just have 0 insight into what goes on there
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#196 » by DrCoach » Mon May 2, 2022 3:32 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:It's impossible to be only 6'6" and get drafted #1 overall out of high school. There has never been a player that height or shorter great enough as a high school prospect. He would have to be in the same conversation of Lebron as a prospect.


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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#197 » by Big J » Mon May 2, 2022 4:40 pm

Kids handlers are shady AF. Very OJ Mayoey.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#198 » by Duke4life831 » Mon May 2, 2022 4:51 pm

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CptCrunch wrote:Lol, no way he recorded 49 in. Inflated vertical basically means artificially deflated/fudged height/wingspan numbers. Sharpe is gonna skip combines.

All Sharpe's camp does is lie. I have very bad feelings about his handlers.

Regardless, the kid is athletic in terms of hops.



What have they lied about? Don't give me "reports" either. Show something they have lied about on the record.

His camp did repeat multiple times to the Athletic that Sharpe was going to return to UK next year.

Don't get me wrong I don't think that's a big deal (I think his handler has much bigger red flags than this), but ya I mean his mom says multiple times he's returning to UK. That was all a charade.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#199 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon May 2, 2022 5:16 pm

Hal14 wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:It's impossible to be only 6'6" and get drafted #1 overall out of high school. There has never been a player that height or shorter great enough as a high school prospect. He would have to be in the same conversation of Lebron as a prospect.

lebron is 6'9" so by your logic sharpe would have to be even more skilled than lebron, since he's 6'6".

there was of course one player who was 6'6" who went from HS to the pros who was worthy of going number 1. Kobe bryant, a once in a generation talent. Obviously Sharpe isn't in kobe's class..


kobe was always listed at 6'7" - and maybe it's because he was thinner, but kobe just looked longer than sharpe.
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Re: Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky 

Post#200 » by K_chile22 » Mon May 2, 2022 7:04 pm

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Hal14 wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:It's impossible to be only 6'6" and get drafted #1 overall out of high school. There has never been a player that height or shorter great enough as a high school prospect. He would have to be in the same conversation of Lebron as a prospect.

lebron is 6'9" so by your logic sharpe would have to be even more skilled than lebron, since he's 6'6".

there was of course one player who was 6'6" who went from HS to the pros who was worthy of going number 1. Kobe bryant, a once in a generation talent. Obviously Sharpe isn't in kobe's class..


kobe was always listed at 6'7" - and maybe it's because he was thinner, but kobe just looked longer than sharpe.
I don't think I've ever seen Kobe listed at 6'7 and if he was that's a load of BS. Teams who were drafting definitely knew he was at best 6'5 without shoes

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