Zaccharie Risacher

[FarBeyondDriven]

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He has plenty more those are just the few highlights that popped up. He's had numerous crossovers this season. His handle is much better than you think. To label him just 3&D is disrespectful.

thanks but no offense, this falls way short of the sort of proof I'm looking for that he's some on-ball creator. First example was against Garrison "G-League" Mathews lmao. The second Brooks was too preoccupied with the PnR and was caught off balance. And I find Brooks to be one of the most overrated defenders in the league. I was thinking you were going to be able to provide me dozens of examples since you're so adamant he's this on-ball creator so it shouldn't be too hard to find them. Nothing either of these videos showed is much more impressive than Risacher taking guys off the dribble off closeouts nor anything I can't imagine Risacher doing more of as he develops. Miller is mostly a 3 and D. You seem very vested in him being more and he does have promise of being a more on-ball creator (as does Risacher) but he's not nearly there yet. You're overrating him for obvious reasons. That's fine. We'll have to agree to disagree.

btw - what is your ceiling for him or comp? The way you talk about him it sounds like you think he's got Paul George or Tatum type upside. I see him more like a Mikal Bridges who shines in his more appropriate 3 and D role but got exposed with the Nets when he was forced into being more of an on-ball creator.

His pro comp has been PG/Tatum/Ingram all those wings can create off the dribble.


What if I told you Miller had a better rookie season then all of them. So you told me Risacher will only get better 3 years from now. Who's to say Miller won't do the same?


Miller was 18ppg as a rookie! Cmon man he's got big time scoring ability. A 3&D player don't even put up 18ppg for a career. You might just be down on Miller and I get that. You keep putting him on the same level as Risacher is wild. But hey if he's as great as you think he should win ROTY in a weak draft. We shall see.

that's what I figured, you've lost all semblance of objectivity. It's understandable. It's part of being a fan and I don't hold that against you.

it's not a weak draft. Depending on landing spot and usage there's a handful of guys that will be vying for ROY, Risacher included. None of these 19 y/o guys are as developed as Miller and will they benefit from injuries, suspensions and their teams tanking like Miller did?

[JustBuzzin]

thanks but no offense, this falls way short of the sort of proof I'm looking for that he's some on-ball creator. First example was against Garrison "G-League" Mathews lmao. The second Brooks was too preoccupied with the PnR and was caught off balance. And I find Brooks to be one of the most overrated defenders in the league. I was thinking you were going to be able to provide me dozens of examples since you're so adamant he's this on-ball creator so it shouldn't be too hard to find them. Nothing either of these videos showed is much more impressive than Risacher taking guys off the dribble off closeouts nor anything I can't imagine Risacher doing more of as he develops. Miller is mostly a 3 and D. You seem very vested in him being more and he does have promise of being a more on-ball creator (as does Risacher) but he's not nearly there yet. You're overrating him for obvious reasons. That's fine. We'll have to agree to disagree.

btw - what is your ceiling for him or comp? The way you talk about him it sounds like you think he's got Paul George or Tatum type upside. I see him more like a Mikal Bridges who shines in his more appropriate 3 and D role but got exposed with the Nets when he was forced into being more of an on-ball creator.

His pro comp has been PG/Tatum/Ingram all those wings can create off the dribble.


What if I told you Miller had a better rookie season then all of them. So you told me Risacher will only get better 3 years from now. Who's to say Miller won't do the same?


Miller was 18ppg as a rookie! Cmon man he's got big time scoring ability. A 3&D player don't even put up 18ppg for a career. You might just be down on Miller and I get that. You keep putting him on the same level as Risacher is wild. But hey if he's as great as you think he should win ROTY in a weak draft. We shall see.

that's what I figured, you've lost all semblance of objectivity. It's understandable. It's part of being a fan and I don't hold that against you.

it's not a weak draft. Depending on landing spot and usage there's a handful of guys that will be vying for ROY, Risacher included. None of these 19 y/o guys are as developed as Miller and will they benefit from injuries, suspensions and their teams tanking like Miller did?

All I know is Miller was a 18ppg scorer as a rookie. If we are projecting into the future I like his chances of improving as a scorer. He's already middle of the pack in the league in terms of scoring. He's not even the #1 option. Just think when he gets stronger and has a bigger role. You looking at a top 10 scorer my man.

Get on the Miller bandwagon before it's too late.

[FarBeyondDriven]

His pro comp has been PG/Tatum/Ingram all those wings can create off the dribble.


What if I told you Miller had a better rookie season then all of them. So you told me Risacher will only get better 3 years from now. Who's to say Miller won't do the same?


Miller was 18ppg as a rookie! Cmon man he's got big time scoring ability. A 3&D player don't even put up 18ppg for a career. You might just be down on Miller and I get that. You keep putting him on the same level as Risacher is wild. But hey if he's as great as you think he should win ROTY in a weak draft. We shall see.

that's what I figured, you've lost all semblance of objectivity. It's understandable. It's part of being a fan and I don't hold that against you.

it's not a weak draft. Depending on landing spot and usage there's a handful of guys that will be vying for ROY, Risacher included. None of these 19 y/o guys are as developed as Miller and will they benefit from injuries, suspensions and their teams tanking like Miller did?

All I know is Miller was a 18ppg scorer as a rookie. If we are projecting into the future I like his chances of improving as a scorer. He's already middle of the pack in the league in terms of scoring. He's not even the #1 option. Just think when he gets stronger and has a bigger role. You looking at a top 10 scorer my man.

Get on the Miller bandwagon before it's too late.

I love the passion. I'm a Miller fan. Not sure I see top 10 scorer though. Maybe top 20-25. You really gotta be high usage and with Ball and Bridges (or Holland if he's replacing him) taking so many shots it's hard to get. If CHA was to draft Castle and let Bridges go then that would certainly help.

[JustBuzzin]

that's what I figured, you've lost all semblance of objectivity. It's understandable. It's part of being a fan and I don't hold that against you.

it's not a weak draft. Depending on landing spot and usage there's a handful of guys that will be vying for ROY, Risacher included. None of these 19 y/o guys are as developed as Miller and will they benefit from injuries, suspensions and their teams tanking like Miller did?

All I know is Miller was a 18ppg scorer as a rookie. If we are projecting into the future I like his chances of improving as a scorer. He's already middle of the pack in the league in terms of scoring. He's not even the #1 option. Just think when he gets stronger and has a bigger role. You looking at a top 10 scorer my man.

Get on the Miller bandwagon before it's too late.

I love the passion. I'm a Miller fan. Not sure I see top 10 scorer though. Maybe top 20-25. You really gotta be high usage and with Ball and Bridges (or Holland if he's replacing him) taking so many shots it's hard to get. If CHA was to draft Castle and let Bridges go then that would certainly help.

Well as a rookie he was ranked #55 in the league in scoring. That seems like a low bar considering he's a rookie. 4 more points per game and he's already in that 20-25 range in scoring.

Cmon man you have to give my man some more credit. You are downplaying his scoring ability. His 3 ball makes him different. He's shown his handles are improving. Only a matter of time before he has the full package like Tatum/PG. Top 10 scorer is definitely in his future imo.

[FarBeyondDriven]

All I know is Miller was a 18ppg scorer as a rookie. If we are projecting into the future I like his chances of improving as a scorer. He's already middle of the pack in the league in terms of scoring. He's not even the #1 option. Just think when he gets stronger and has a bigger role. You looking at a top 10 scorer my man.

Get on the Miller bandwagon before it's too late.

I love the passion. I'm a Miller fan. Not sure I see top 10 scorer though. Maybe top 20-25. You really gotta be high usage and with Ball and Bridges (or Holland if he's replacing him) taking so many shots it's hard to get. If CHA was to draft Castle and let Bridges go then that would certainly help.

Well as a rookie he was ranked #55 in the league in scoring. That seems like a low bar considering he's a rookie. 4 more points per game and he's already in that 20-25 range in scoring.

Cmon man you have to give my man some more credit. You are downplaying his scoring ability. His 3 ball makes him different. He's shown his handles are improving. Only a matter of time before he has the full package like Tatum/PG. Top 10 scorer is definitely in his future imo.

he was on a tanking team without their their helio-centric PG in Ball and injuries/suspensions/trades which increased his usage. He was hovering around the 15 ppg mark even after Ball went down until the trade deadline. Then when Rozier was moved he suddenly got more usage and his ppg went up. All I'm saying is, there's a real chance his usage stays the same or even goes down compared to the 2nd half of last season. If that happens he won't be able to increase his scoring enough to crack the top 25 let alone get into the top 10.

[JustBuzzin]

I love the passion. I'm a Miller fan. Not sure I see top 10 scorer though. Maybe top 20-25. You really gotta be high usage and with Ball and Bridges (or Holland if he's replacing him) taking so many shots it's hard to get. If CHA was to draft Castle and let Bridges go then that would certainly help.

Well as a rookie he was ranked #55 in the league in scoring. That seems like a low bar considering he's a rookie. 4 more points per game and he's already in that 20-25 range in scoring.

Cmon man you have to give my man some more credit. You are downplaying his scoring ability. His 3 ball makes him different. He's shown his handles are improving. Only a matter of time before he has the full package like Tatum/PG. Top 10 scorer is definitely in his future imo.

he was on a tanking team without their their helio-centric PG in Ball and injuries/suspensions/trades which increased his usage. He was hovering around the 15 ppg mark even after Ball went down until the trade deadline. Then when Rozier was moved he suddenly got more usage and his ppg went up. All I'm saying is, there's a real chance his usage stays the same or even goes down compared to the 2nd half of last season. If that happens he won't be able to increase his scoring enough to crack the top 25 let alone get into the top 10.

So you must think he's close to his peak already then huh?

You just acting like this dude is some mid player with a low ceiling. They were literally giving this dude double teams throughout the season. What rookie is getting denied the ball as soon as he steps past half court?

When Melo gets back that will just open up the court even more for Miller because he now has a teammate who can also demand a double team. His scoring will come so much easier with Melo on the court.


Be afraid be very afraid.

[JustBuzzin]

I apologize to the people reading this thread we got off topic, back to Risacher.


He's going to be a good 3&D wing from day 1. He can fit in any system and will be a plug n play guy. I ultimately see him being a 3rd option on a contender at his peak. A lot of that will depend on how much he improves as a ball handler.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I apologize to the people reading this thread we got off topic, back to Risacher.


He's going to be a good 3&D wing from day 1. He can fit in any system and will be a plug n play guy. I ultimately see him being a 3rd option on a contender at his peak. A lot of that will depend on how much he improves as a ball handler.

let me guess, you think Miller could be a #1

[JustBuzzin]

I apologize to the people reading this thread we got off topic, back to Risacher.


He's going to be a good 3&D wing from day 1. He can fit in any system and will be a plug n play guy. I ultimately see him being a 3rd option on a contender at his peak. A lot of that will depend on how much he improves as a ball handler.

let me guess, you think Miller could be a #1

No, but he can be top 10 for sure.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I apologize to the people reading this thread we got off topic, back to Risacher.


He's going to be a good 3&D wing from day 1. He can fit in any system and will be a plug n play guy. I ultimately see him being a 3rd option on a contender at his peak. A lot of that will depend on how much he improves as a ball handler.

let me guess, you think Miller could be a #1

No, but he can be top 10 for sure.

Every team technically has a #1 player. You not only think he can be a team's #1 player but he's going to be a top 10 player overall?

[JustBuzzin]

let me guess, you think Miller could be a #1

No, but he can be top 10 for sure.

Every team technically has a #1 player. You not only think he can be a team's #1 player but he's going to be a top 10 player overall?

How did you go from him being a top 10 scorer to the #1 player?

[remi_222]

Can you guys pls stop with Miller ?? or create a thread Risacher vs Miller bc it starts to become irrelevant here

[sip]

I don't think either of you are going to win an argument about Miller vs Risacher right now.

What I would say is that most people expect Miller to improve. Same with Jalen Johnson and Trey Murphy... all those guys are 21 or 22 and we are hoping they continue to get better and do things we haven't seen.

Yet for some reason Risacher who was 18 yrs old a month ago is done developing and he is caged into a 3D box and won't improve. It makes no sense. Especially when with his size and shooting he is going to get plenty of mins to develop.

No one is saying Risacher won't improve. But, it is unlikely something that has looked like a deficiency in his game will suddenly become a strength at this point. There are certain skills that are easier to add than others, but if you aren't a shot creator at 18, you aren't likely to be one at 25. That doesn't mean he won't still be a really good player though.

This is a pretty bad take. The kid is playing in a competitive league against grown men so he has a more defined role. Put him in highschool or college and he is doing way more shot creation.

[prime1time]

People saying Risacher has no on ball creation just doesn't ring true for me. If I'm an opposing coach, I'm putting a smaller/quicker defender on Risacher since he lacks core strength. The counter to this wouldn't be to take them off the dribble. It would be to take them into the post. This is what makes guys like KD and Tatum so lethal. Adding that Dirk one-leg fadeway to score over smaller defenders. I'd also point out that in Euro ball, there is way less spacing. So, when you add it all up, attacking off the dribble simply doesn't make sense for Risacher right now. Lastly, we should point out that Risacher is on a developmental team. He's playing big time minutes for a team that is trying to win right now. They aren't going to let him just do whatever he wants.

Imo, Risacher is one of those weird prospects that slips into a collective blindspot due to a lack of valid player comps. How many players of Risacher's archtype do we get from Europe? If Risacher was born in America, he would probably be another athletic wing that needs to work on his jumper. This is who the NBA is really good at projecting. Not just from a draft perspective but from a player development perspective. In America basketball, shooters are shooters and rarely do they crossover.

But Risacher is doesn't fit neatly into either category. Are there aspects of his game that he has that he has been restricted from showing. Who does Risacher pattern his game after? What aspects of Risacher's game is he trying to work on? Usually for wings it's simple. "I'm trying to improve my shooting." Many posters are basically implying that Risacher as a prospect is done improving. He might be, but at the same time he's only just turned 19.

A lot of posters are pushing their own assumptions about Risacher and using that to determine the player he'll become. I think my Wizards will draft him at 2. As he puts on wait and develops his game, it will be very interesting to see his growth/development.

[prime1time]

It's hard to imagine Risacher settling for being just a shooter. Imo, the more likely scenario is that the context of the game just prevent him doing it. Like I said in the previous post - smaller quicker defenders, team wants to win now, lack of core strength, lack of floor spacing.

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The beginning of this clip shows way more on ball creation than we've seen from him in the league. If we are really being honest, if you put the other wings in the same situation that Risacher was in, in France, they would also not be able to create. But what's fascinating about Risacher is that people are taking his success at playing a role and now using it to define his entire career. He's simply not in a situation that will let him just do what he wants regardless of the consequences. But the flashes are certainly there to give a team hope for what the future might hold.

[coutournant]

Risacher ended the season with 8 points against Monaco, but his playoffs were really good. He averaged 15 points 7.5 rebounds, being the best scorer of the 4th best team in France.
While he improved a lot in agressivity at the end of the season, he looked strong during the playoffs and it reflects in his rebounding averages. It's a good sign for a player who was labelled soft since last year, due to a bad tournament during the U19 world championship.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think the playoff play makes the top-2 a bit more set in stone personally.

1) Sarr

2) Risacher

Then a gap and everyone else IMO.

[Chi town]

I think he ends up going 1 to the Hawks.

[The Moose]

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[vincecarter4pres]

I think he ends up going 1 to the Hawks.

Think so too. And I think Castle goes 2.