clyde21 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:clyde21 wrote:
no **** it's not how it works, that's why it's a hypothetical
if teams were given a chance today to draft anyone from the 2025 draft, how many would go above any player in this class? if your answer is zero that's fine, say zero.
but it's not hypothetical when I asked to rate the 2024 draft class' strength? And I was being facetious. I'm literally using your quote from that thread and you're triggered by it? Can't make this up. You can't have it both ways i.e being unwilling to prognosticate about the strength of the 2024 class because "they haven't dribbled in the NBA yet" yet on the other asking others to prognosticate about whether the 2025 class (that hasn't dribbled in college yet) ranks against the 2024 class. Of course babyjax upvotes this
This is good stuff man. You really outdo yourself sometimes. Glad your fans are tickled by it
Because I, unlike you, am capable of answering questions around here and can prognosticate under any and all circumstances for the fun of it, I'll answer:
The 2025 class looks like an all-timer to me. Flagg, Bailey, Traore, Pate and Harper would all go before Sarr as we sit right now without me needing to see any of play a dribble, as you put it. See how easy that was? Not sure why you're having such a tough time of it in the other thread
no, asking how the 2024 class ranks in terms of strength is not a hypothetical.
do you know what hypothetical means?
Hypothetical - imagined or suggested but not necessarily real or true:
the strength of the 2024 draft class isn't determined yet. It's going to take years before we can intelligently say whether it's strong, average or weak. But that shouldn't stop us from putting our evaluator hats on and having an opinion on it based on our projections for it and its prospects right?
I am asking you to, hypothetically, put yourself into the future 5 years from now when the players have all developed enough to determine this class' strength (like we can with all prior draft classes which I've put into Tiers to make it easier for comparisons sake)
and your response to this request is:
"i mean this is a ridiculous convo, you're ranking this draft before they play a single dribble in the NBA against class post NBA...that's not how any of this works."
this is funny to me because you ranked this draft before anyone of these kids dribbled in college. Has your imagination failed you all of a sudden?
You've been saying all year since before the season began it was a weak class. And you and your ilk have mocked me for defending it. Clearly you have an opinion and are capable of sharing it with everyone. And you project players forward to the time when they're fully developed and opine about the player they'll become right? And you do that for all the players in this class and combined that would give you the overall strength of this class which, again, you've been telling everyone for months you feel it's a weak draft class.
So please just go on the record and try your best to qualify exactly where you fall. If it's Tier 6 (Bad), Tier 7 (Terrible), Tier 8 (Worst Ever) or somewhere in between. Why is this like pulling teeth? I'm trying to give everyone a chance to pit their evaluating skills against each other. I and others have put our reps on the line so have some courage and do it yourself. What's the issue? It's all in good fun. If you can't then I'll just assume you put it in Tier 8 since your past remarks suggest that, until you tell me otherwise.
