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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#181 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:06 pm

clyde21 wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Scoot is one of clydes more accurate reads here from what I’ve seen. I’m pretty sure he had Scottie Lewis ranked over LaMelo Ball lul


It's not hard finding my 2020 big board so you'd be a liar.

But nothing more hysterical than watching the mouthbreathers of this forum who never post their big boards going around criticizing the ones that do and keep a track record of all their takes.

It's why the trio of you mentally ill indivuals have turned this board into a ghost town at this point and the last few that post here will most likely stop soon including me


Yes, please continue to insult people... just like you always do when they disagree with you. Then when you are wrong you get mad at people for calling you out or ever talking about that prospect again, even though you were a jerk the whole time leading up to it talking down to people.

You want all the smoke until you don't.

Clydes perfect world.
Talk ****, call people dumb, tell them he is right.
Then when he is wrong, nobody should ever bring it up again.
If they do, continue to insult them.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#182 » by clyde21 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:22 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Scoot is one of clydes more accurate reads here from what I’ve seen. I’m pretty sure he had Scottie Lewis ranked over LaMelo Ball lul


It's not hard finding my 2020 big board so you'd be a liar.

But nothing more hysterical than watching the mouthbreathers of this forum who never post their big boards going around criticizing the ones that do and keep a track record of all their takes.

It's why the trio of you mentally ill indivuals have turned this board into a ghost town at this point and the last few that post here will most likely stop soon including me


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1822537&p=80139966&hilit=Scottie+lewis#p80121342

Maybe this was a joke thread and I forget


do you understand that big boards evolve and this big board from December 2019 was not the final 2020 big board, right?

show us your 2020 big board, where is it posted? and any of you weasels calling anyone unhinged is mind numbingly hilarious at this point. you've effectively killed this board anyways.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#183 » by KembaWalker » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:
It's not hard finding my 2020 big board so you'd be a liar.

But nothing more hysterical than watching the mouthbreathers of this forum who never post their big boards going around criticizing the ones that do and keep a track record of all their takes.

It's why the trio of you mentally ill indivuals have turned this board into a ghost town at this point and the last few that post here will most likely stop soon including me


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1822537&p=80139966&hilit=Scottie+lewis#p80121342

Maybe this was a joke thread and I forget


do you understand that big boards evolve and this big board from December 2019 was not the final 2020 big board, right?

show us your 2020 big board, where is it posted? and any of you weasels calling anyone unhinged is mind numbingly hilarious at this point. you've effectively killed this board anyways.


LaMelos NBL season was already well over by December of 2019 so this is probably closer to your actual take than any final list where the consensus media changed your mind. I’m gonna disengage now because you seem unwell and the mouth frothing insults aren’t good for your keyboard. Good luck!
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#184 » by clyde21 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:39 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
clyde21 wrote:


do you understand that big boards evolve and this big board from December 2019 was not the final 2020 big board, right?

show us your 2020 big board, where is it posted? and any of you weasels calling anyone unhinged is mind numbingly hilarious at this point. you've effectively killed this board anyways.


LaMelos NBL season was already well over by December of 2019 so this is probably closer to your actual take than any final list where the consensus media changed your mind. I’m gonna disengage now because you seem unwell and the mouth frothing insults aren’t good for your keyboard. Good luck!


little man comes to take a shot at me and then tells me to calm down :lol:

where is your 2020 big board? oh that's right you don't have one. Sit the **** down.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#185 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:


do you understand that big boards evolve and this big board from December 2019 was not the final 2020 big board, right?

show us your 2020 big board, where is it posted? and any of you weasels calling anyone unhinged is mind numbingly hilarious at this point. you've effectively killed this board anyways.


To be fair this wasn't his final board..

clyde21 wrote:i hate that we've had so much to time to think about this draft, overthinking is probably happening at this point and that's usually when the bigger mistakes happen.

i finalized my bb now by only up to the top 12 players i feel most strongly about, after that it becomes much more about positional/team fit, much closer in value for me.

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1. R.J. HAMPTON
2. ONYEKA OKONGWU

3. DEVIN VASSELL
4. TYRESE HALIBURTON
5. ANTHONY EDWARDS

6. COLE ANTHONY
7. TYRESE MAXEY
8. JOSH GREEN
9. KIRA LEWIS JR.
10. JAMES WISEMAN
11. TYLER BEY
12. ISAAC OKORO


RJ Hampton as the #1 pick prospect isn't really a screaming endorsement that we are all the idiots ruining the board.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#186 » by K_chile22 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:32 pm

Y'all are so weird and petty on this board my goodness
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#187 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:10 pm

1/15 shooting over his last two games.

32% from field, 28% from three, 3.6 ppg.

Maybe the Steph Curry clone comments by many of y'all was a bit off base.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#188 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:55 pm

JMAC3 wrote:1/15 shooting over his last two games.

32% from field, 28% from three, 3.6 ppg.

Maybe the Steph Curry clone comments by many of y'all was a bit off base.


Can you show me some "Steph Curry clone comments"?
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#189 » by HadAnEffectHere » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:03 pm

Yeah, Reed's been horrible, my only real miss so far with this class.

I will say that every player other than Edey and Clingan have been pretty bad who was drafted in the lottery though.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#190 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:42 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:1/15 shooting over his last two games.

32% from field, 28% from three, 3.6 ppg.

Maybe the Steph Curry clone comments by many of y'all was a bit off base.


Can you show me some "Steph Curry clone comments"?


Curry comp is probably talked about for 200+ posts in this thread alone.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2336119&start=740
With posters on both sides, feel free to look through.
Whether it was comparing their size, their shooting, who was better college player, who was better ball handler...etc etc

I am sure if I looked for more than 5 mins I could find 10 more that are even more pro Curry/Reed comps, but as I mentioned its 15+ pages of results comparing the two.

atlantabbq99 wrote:I'm not saying Reed will be the next Curry but i do see him on the same tier or impact player as Booker and Nash.


CptCrunch wrote:I've seen enough Isiah is better than Curry at shooting


Colbinii wrote:This is the player who is the most like Curry we have seen in the NCAA since Curry has come out.


CptCrunch wrote:Reed isn't Curry as he is way better than Curry as a freshman. Reed is really an first team all defense guard with an elite shot.

His archtype is basically non-existant. He is a completely unique player. His best player comp from a couple of days ago is Evan Mobley at PG with an elite shot.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#191 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:58 pm

A "comp to Curry" is not the same as "a Curry clone". Even saying he's "the most like Curry" isn't saying he's Curry.

It's also one thing to say a guy appears to be a better "prospect" than to say he's literally going to develop into a future HOFer that might be a top 5 player of all time. Do you honestly believe anyone here was saying that about Reed?
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#192 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:A "comp to Curry" is not the same as "a Curry clone". Even saying he's "the most like Curry" isn't saying he's Curry.

It's also one thing to say a guy appears to be a better "prospect" than to say he's literally going to develop into a future HOFer that might be a top 5 player of all time. Do you honestly believe anyone here was saying that about Reed?


I honestly don't think the conversation would last 20 pages if people weren't seriously trying to make a hard comparison. So yeah maybe nobody said verbatim "I think he will be better than Steph Curry a top 15 player of all time", but when the conversation goes back and forth that many times surrounding the comparison I don't think you can simply brush it off by saying ohhhh you can mention shades of player x without it being taking seriously.

This wasn't a thing that was mentioned 5 times and I had to comb the thread, it dominated the conversation.

Even the Nash and Booker comps people were handing out look terrible. It is early, but the chances that Sheppard is some All-NBA, MVP contending talent is probably sub 3% at this point.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#193 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:A "comp to Curry" is not the same as "a Curry clone". Even saying he's "the most like Curry" isn't saying he's Curry.

It's also one thing to say a guy appears to be a better "prospect" than to say he's literally going to develop into a future HOFer that might be a top 5 player of all time. Do you honestly believe anyone here was saying that about Reed?


I honestly don't think the conversation would last 20 pages if people weren't seriously trying to make a hard comparison. So yeah maybe nobody said verbatim "I think he will be better than Steph Curry a top 15 player of all time", but when the conversation goes back and forth that many times surrounding the comparison I don't think you can simply brush it off by saying ohhhh you can mention shades of player x without it being taking seriously.

This wasn't a thing that was mentioned 5 times and I had to comb the thread, it dominated the conversation.

Even the Nash and Booker comps people were handing out look terrible. It is early, but the chances that Sheppard is some All-NBA, MVP contending talent is probably sub 3% at this point.


Bro you're so obsessed with validation. It's crazy. People comped him to Steph because they had a lot of stylistic similarities in terms of off ball movement and shooting. You just don't seem to get it. But whatever. I'm done trying to convince you to wait more than two months to proclaim dudes busted already. You have to learn your own lessons.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#194 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:41 pm

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Bro you're so obsessed with validation. It's crazy. People comped him to Steph because they had a lot of stylistic similarities in terms of off ball movement and shooting. You just don't seem to get it. But whatever. I'm done trying to convince you to wait more than two months to proclaim dudes busted already. You have to learn your own lessons.


I never said bust, but yes please put words in my mouth LOL. Heaven forbid I bring up a rookie underwhelming, if it were up to you people wouldn't talk about a rookie performance until they end their first contract.

I have barely mentioned Reed, am I am really not allowed to have an opinion 30 games into his career? That is a much larger sample size then people blowing their loads over him after 3 summer league games, which had people already saying things like "steal of the draft", "I was too low on him" etc etc.. but yes I am obsessed with validation haha
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#195 » by EvanZ » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:08 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
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Bro you're so obsessed with validation. It's crazy. People comped him to Steph because they had a lot of stylistic similarities in terms of off ball movement and shooting. You just don't seem to get it. But whatever. I'm done trying to convince you to wait more than two months to proclaim dudes busted already. You have to learn your own lessons.


I never said bust, but yes please put words in my mouth LOL. Heaven forbid I bring up a rookie underwhelming, if it were up to you people wouldn't talk about a rookie performance until they end their first contract.

I have barely mentioned Reed, am I am really not allowed to have an opinion 30 games into his career? That is a much larger sample size then people blowing their loads over him after 3 summer league games, which had people already saying things like "steal of the draft", "I was too low on him" etc etc.. but yes I am obsessed with validation haha


...and now the usual backpedaling. :lol:
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#196 » by The Moose » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:05 am

I've been disappointed in him offensively, he doesn't look confident or aggressive and is also on a cold stretch shooting. I assume it will balance out eventually, but he hasn't been good thus far.

Defensively, most of his college data seems to be translating. He is near the top of the league in STOCK rates for guards, only behind SGA, Caruso, Cason, Suggs, Ellis and GPII. His defensive contest data seems elite too.

Overall he's been underwhelming to what I expected for sure though
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#197 » by JMAC3 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:10 am

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JMAC3 wrote:
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Bro you're so obsessed with validation. It's crazy. People comped him to Steph because they had a lot of stylistic similarities in terms of off ball movement and shooting. You just don't seem to get it. But whatever. I'm done trying to convince you to wait more than two months to proclaim dudes busted already. You have to learn your own lessons.


I never said bust, but yes please put words in my mouth LOL. Heaven forbid I bring up a rookie underwhelming, if it were up to you people wouldn't talk about a rookie performance until they end their first contract.

I have barely mentioned Reed, am I am really not allowed to have an opinion 30 games into his career? That is a much larger sample size then people blowing their loads over him after 3 summer league games, which had people already saying things like "steal of the draft", "I was too low on him" etc etc.. but yes I am obsessed with validation haha


...and now the usual backpedaling. :lol:


How did I backpedal? By saying you’re putting words in my mouth? I stand by what I said about Reed all along.

It is you who is getting all sensitive because you’re #2 prospect has been underwhelming and you can’t stand anyone pointing it out.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#198 » by EvanZ » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:44 am

JMAC3 wrote:
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JMAC3 wrote:
I never said bust, but yes please put words in my mouth LOL. Heaven forbid I bring up a rookie underwhelming, if it were up to you people wouldn't talk about a rookie performance until they end their first contract.

I have barely mentioned Reed, am I am really not allowed to have an opinion 30 games into his career? That is a much larger sample size then people blowing their loads over him after 3 summer league games, which had people already saying things like "steal of the draft", "I was too low on him" etc etc.. but yes I am obsessed with validation haha


...and now the usual backpedaling. :lol:


How did I backpedal? By saying you’re putting words in my mouth? I stand by what I said about Reed all along.

It is you who is getting all sensitive because you’re #2 prospect has been underwhelming and you can’t stand anyone pointing it out.


No. You think I care if I’m wrong. I literally don’t but I sure as hell won’t admit being wrong or right after less than two goddamn months. LMAO you’re so broken.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#199 » by JMAC3 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:12 am

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No. You think I care if I’m wrong. I literally don’t but I sure as hell won’t admit being wrong or right after less than two goddamn months. LMAO you’re so broken.


I simply pointed out his last 2 games, poor shooting this year and said man the Steph comps looks pretty awful right now..

Which has caused you to spiral out and put a full court attack on me. But yes I’m the broken one.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#200 » by EvanZ » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:34 am

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EvanZ wrote:
No. You think I care if I’m wrong. I literally don’t but I sure as hell won’t admit being wrong or right after less than two goddamn months. LMAO you’re so broken.


I simply pointed out his last 2 games, poor shooting this year and said man the Steph comps looks pretty awful right now..

Which has caused you to spiral out and put a full court attack on me. But yes I’m the broken one.


Nobody is spiraling lol. You can’t seem to make any non-hyperbolic posts. It’s wild.

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