2021 NBA Draft

[EvanZ]

For people who love Davion Mitchell, I highly recommend you switch over to Miles McBride so you're not disappointed.

[clyde21]

For people who love Davion Mitchell, I highly recommend you switch over to Miles McBride so you're not disappointed.

Deuce is underrated af, but I don't like that we are agreeing in this draft more than previous drafts, might have to switch up some of my takes

[EvanZ]

For people who love Davion Mitchell, I highly recommend you switch over to Miles McBride so you're not disappointed.

Deuce is underrated af, but I don't like that we are agreeing in this draft more than previous drafts, might have to switch up some of my takes

2021 is DIFFERENT

[doordoor123]

The fear of Jared Butler is he becomes Ky Bowman, who had an insane handle too/very quick twitchy and had some really big games in college. Problem is he's undersized, isn't too quick and cant get consistent buckets because of his size. Butler is a better passer and a better shooter, but he isn't the most consistent player in general. He's also older without much room for growth as a player.

[916fan]

The DX guys are THE best talent evaluators we've ever seen (better than a lot of NBA teams). They have a consistently good track record. Schmitz seems to firmly believe that Mitchell has true star potential.


then I come on this board to see people argue about how perimeter defense isn't really that important to try to diminish Mitchell's value. Thybulle has been getting nearly 20mpg on a contending team in the East... I'm not sure how that equates to "having trouble finding consistent minutes at the NBA level." Simply not true. He also played about 20mpg his rookie year too. He's getting consistent minutes.

Mitchell has legitimate 2-way potential as a guard. It's been a while since we've seen a smaller guard prospect who can actually play defense.

[No-Man]

The DX guys are THE best talent evaluators we've ever seen (better than a lot of NBA teams). They have a consistently good track record. Schmitz seems to firmly believe that Mitchell has true star potential.

this couldn't be more false

[EvanZ]

The DX guys are THE best talent evaluators we've ever seen (better than a lot of NBA teams). They have a consistently good track record. Schmitz seems to firmly believe that Mitchell has true star potential.


then I come on this board to see people argue about how perimeter defense isn't really that important to try to diminish Mitchell's value. Thybulle has been getting nearly 20mpg on a contending team in the East... I'm not sure how that equates to "having trouble finding consistent minutes at the NBA level." Simply not true. He also played about 20mpg his rookie year too. He's getting consistent minutes.

Mitchell has legitimate 2-way potential as a guard. It's been a while since we've seen a smaller guard prospect who can actually play defense.

Whatever you're smoking, I'd like some.

[CptCrunch]

Davion Mitchell is not a first round pick.

Drafting players based on tourney is literally the worst way to commit suicide.

[youngWizzy]

Ended up adding the 2021 prospect pool to my NBA Draft Tool here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/

Hope this might help in any way

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[SmoothLefty21]

Saw that Jeremiah Robinson-Earl is in, with an agent. I like him later in the 1st round. He's not a great athlete but man his feel for the game is outstanding. He can do a little of everything, a smart player who understands angles. His 3PT% isn't there but he's got a nice stroke, I expect his jumper will come around. He'll be a very nice role player.

[clyde21]

The DX guys are THE best talent evaluators we've ever seen (better than a lot of NBA teams). They have a consistently good track record. Schmitz seems to firmly believe that Mitchell has true star potential.


then I come on this board to see people argue about how perimeter defense isn't really that important to try to diminish Mitchell's value. Thybulle has been getting nearly 20mpg on a contending team in the East... I'm not sure how that equates to "having trouble finding consistent minutes at the NBA level." Simply not true. He also played about 20mpg his rookie year too. He's getting consistent minutes.

Mitchell has legitimate 2-way potential as a guard. It's been a while since we've seen a smaller guard prospect who can actually play defense.

Thybulle is the definition of inconsistent minutes, he plays 36 minutes depending on match up one night and follows it up with playing 10 and 17 minutes the next two games. and if I'm taking a guy 7th overall, especially a 22 year old rookie, I better hope he's playing a more consistent role for me by his second season.

and I'm not "trying to diminish Mitchell's" value, w/e the hell that means, this is just the facts. perimeter defense is lower on the totem pole in terms of importance, it's doesn't mean it's not valuable, but IF you are gonna be picking him in the top10, he better be bringing a lot more at a high level to the table.

and no, it hasn't been a while. we've literally just seen Dort, Jones and Carter, same mold essentially as Mitchell more or less, and I can argue all 3 were even better defenders, and none even sniffed a top10 pick.

[Ruzious]

Davion Mitchell is not a first round pick.

Drafting players based on tourney is literally the worst way to commit suicide.

He had a very good season before the tourney, and a lot of people - including me - had him as a FRP long before the tourney.

[Ruzious]

Ended up adding the 2021 prospect pool to my NBA Draft Tool here: https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/

Hope this might help in any way

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I like it. It's a fun and useful tool.

[CptCrunch]

Davion Mitchell is not a first round pick.

Drafting players based on tourney is literally the worst way to commit suicide.

He had a very good season before the tourney, and a lot of people - including me - had him as a FRP long before the tourney.

Yes, you had a 22 turning 23 year old undersized PG with 14 PPG and 2 ATO in college as your first rounder. Let's not mention the 65% FT shooting consistent over 4 years (which we know the best predictor of shooting success unlike potentially fluke seasons of abnormal 3 point shot)

[Ruzious]

Davion Mitchell is not a first round pick.

Drafting players based on tourney is literally the worst way to commit suicide.

He had a very good season before the tourney, and a lot of people - including me - had him as a FRP long before the tourney.

Yes, you had a 22 turning 23 year old undersized PG with 14 PPG and 2 ATO in college as your first rounder. Let's not mention the 65% FT shooting consistent over 4 years (which we know the best predictor of shooting success unlike potentially fluke seasons of abnormal 3 point shot)

Everyone knows his age and the problems shooting in past years - that's not exactly something new. And he's not under-sized. He's on the short side, but he's very well built for an NBA PG. I responded to the point you actually made... "Drafting players based on tourney is literally the worst way to commit suicide." Let's see where he ends up getting drafted and get back to this.

[fteru6uhre54ew]

I don't know who gonna draft him but Garuba is a monster. Really special prospect. If the team who draft him make him grow more with the ball...

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[DCasey91]

I don't know who gonna draft him but Garuba is a monster. Really special prospect. If the team who draft him make him grow more with the ball...

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I like Garuba up until his hands . If anything It’d have to be basic stuff with him, he’s still so unrefined.

Very strong and bouncy but I can’t go past his hands/touch. Has awareness issues too

Sometimes he plays like a top 5 prospect other times I’m thinking he needs serious refinement.

Could see Eric Paschall or actually I’d like to see him model his game around Jae Crowder (who has good polish to his game).

[fteru6uhre54ew]

I don't know who gonna draft him but Garuba is a monster. Really special prospect. If the team who draft him make him grow more with the ball...

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I like Garuba up until his hands . If anything It’d have to be basic stuff with him, he’s still so unrefined.

Very strong and bouncy but I can’t go past his hands/touch. Has awareness issues too

Sometimes he plays like a top 5 prospect other times I’m thinking he needs serious refinement.

Could see Eric Paschall or actually I’d like to see him model his game around Jae Crowder (who has good polish to his game).

First of all this kid is playing in a team at this level that maybe 5 kids in this draft could be a rotation player on this team. It's not easy at all first he changed his style of play because the power forwards in Madrid the only they do or mostly it's space the floor and play outside and this kid always has been the opposite bully inside and create with his strengh when he was playing in the Under teams maybe that's why he has worst hands now he shoot from outside much more and has gained better shooting touch but has lost some grip he always has had good strong hands but yeah a hard touch. His coach has been putting him in tough positions on both sides to make him a better player and work on his weak points the coaches here are hard as **** with the youngsters and don't trust to much in them I mean at his age in a team like this he is the only one. Well see a kid with 18 years old being an important part in the rotation in one of the best teams in Europe it's an anomally he is much more mature that most kids here. If he do 3 or 4 bad plays he goes to the bench well and Laso is like D'Antoni nobody is going to change his play style lol.

In the last month and half he has been playing much better more confortable more adapted to the level he has improved his body has more confidence and has been growing in the team now is one of the most importants player on the roster and I think he still can be better in those last months. I think the style of the Nba fit much better with him than with the European one and could grow much more as a player. For example if he get better handling the ball or with the ball in his hands more time making more decisions this can take him to another level as a player the kid has a really good IQ understand this game really well and pass the ball really well. On the defense end and working in the tough part of this sport it's amazing for a 19 years old kid I mean Paschall or Crowder as a example (I don't see that comparison at all lol) are half of this kid on defense right now.

[DCasey91]

I meant to say the two comps on the offensive end.

One being inside the other more outside both have strong bodies too. Maybe the role he plays is one or other.

But yes defensively he has the tools. He’s still very much a project in my eyes needs a couple of years of refinement imo. Get great at one thing and there’s a very good player there (too much personally of sorted stuff, centralize it have to keep it simple with him). If he’s not great at one thing on the offensive end it might be pushing uphill to find a solidified role long term.

[Mickey8]

Garuba is undersized C/ PF with the poor offensive game, I know he scored two threes in this game but he's far from being a good shooter or the scorer for that matter , his potential on the offense is very poor on the pro level , especially in the NBA , also he has same physical build , he had two years ago , when he played at U16 FIBA championship , which makes me wonder if he's older than 18 years old Whoever Draft him high , that pick will be wasted.