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Watched the final four NCAA today - is there anyone that believes Adama Sanogo is 21 years old? Easy 25. Looks like Thon Maker's older brother.
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Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
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BlazersBroncos wrote:Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
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clyde21 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
He does what he does at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with his style of play even in the NBA. Guys who know how to play and win will find minutes.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:clyde21 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
He does what he does at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with his style of play even in the NBA. Guys who know how to play and win will find minutes.
I agree he finds a role, but I think with a shot he could be a Paul Millsap caliber guy (3PT shooter Millsap, not Utah Millsap). Just not likely that happens and he ends up as a hustle energy big off the bench instead IMO.
Then again Paul had no shot, but trajectories like his and Brook are so hard to predict as they are quite rare.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:clyde21 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
He does what he does at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with his style of play even in the NBA. Guys who know how to play and win will find minutes.
kinda true but still wish over the four years he spent at Indiana he developed even a semi-serviceable 3 ball, he doesn't even attempt them.
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there is absolutely nothing on the basketball court, skill wise, that can't be improved with hard work. If a guy can't shoot it's because he's not putting in the work especially with FTs.
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BlazersBroncos wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:clyde21 wrote:
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
He does what he does at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with his style of play even in the NBA. Guys who know how to play and win will find minutes.
I agree he finds a role, but I think with a shot he could be a Paul Millsap caliber guy (3PT shooter Millsap, not Utah Millsap). Just not likely that happens and he ends up as a hustle energy big off the bench instead IMO.
Then again Paul had no shot, but trajectories like his and Brook are so hard to predict as they are quite rare.
With the way the modern game is, generally, if they can't shoot in college and been there for ages, they probably can't shoot. Sap or Lopez wasn't asked to that in their era and wasn't till they were further in their careers.
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BostonCouchGM wrote:there is absolutely nothing on the basketball court, skill wise, that can't be improved with hard work. If a guy can't shoot it's because he's not putting in the work especially with FTs.
I disagree, there is a skills-cap.
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Only kind of on topic, but what a rampage through the tourney by Uconn.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:clyde21 wrote:BlazersBroncos wrote:Man, its such a disappointment Jackson-Davis didnt even attempt to develop a 3PT shot this year. The kid stuffs the stat sheet across the board outside making 3's, which is coincidentally probably the most important trait in the NBA right now.
Its the difference b/t him being a late lotto pick and a bubble FRP. 4 years and no 3PT development w/ FT consistently in the high 60's is such a bummer for a guy that literally does everything else at a high level.
Should carve a role but he could be a non-replacement level starter if he could shoot IMO.
he's been the same exact player all four years, even his FT% is exactly the same every year. it's so weird.
the only thing that actually improved this year is his assist rate, double the assists he had a jr, which is a decent sign he might be a serviceable passing hub on the interior, but yea, almost zero improvement in any other capacity.
He does what he does at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with his style of play even in the NBA. Guys who know how to play and win will find minutes.
Yeah there's lots of quality bigs in the NBA who don't shoot. Robert williams, steven adams, Zubac, mitchell robinson, hartenstein, capela, claxton, dwight powell, etc.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything 

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eminence wrote:Only kind of on topic, but what a rampage through the tourney by Uconn.
Other than Hawkins, Clingan looks like a first rounder IMO. Just huge with massive defensive potential.
Does Sanogo have a shot? He's undersized for a C but moves well and has a semblance of an outside shot. For some reason blocked almost twice as many shots last year in fewer minutes.
Andre Jackson has some elite role player traits but his shot is too much of a disaster IMO
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eminence wrote:Only kind of on topic, but what a rampage through the tourney by Uconn.
It was an incredibly weak draw tbh.
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EvanZ wrote:eminence wrote:Only kind of on topic, but what a rampage through the tourney by Uconn.
It was an incredibly weak draw tbh.
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Their final 4 opponents were on the weaker side due to earlier upsets, but rounds 2-4 were decent.
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eminence wrote:EvanZ wrote:eminence wrote:Only kind of on topic, but what a rampage through the tourney by Uconn.
It was an incredibly weak draw tbh.
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Their final 4 opponents were on the weaker side due to earlier upsets, but rounds 2-4 were decent.
Iona -> SMC -> Arkansas -> Gonzaga -> Miami -> SDSU
A very good mid-majorish strength of schedule, just not a lot of future NBA talent outside of the Arkansas kids
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Arkansas/Gonzaga/Miami all great teams, and they beat everyone by double digits
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If NSJ and Kobe Bufkin are both available at your teams pick and you have to take one, which one are you taking?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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EvanZ wrote:eminence wrote:EvanZ wrote:It was an incredibly weak draw tbh.
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Their final 4 opponents were on the weaker side due to earlier upsets, but rounds 2-4 were decent.
Iona -> SMC -> Arkansas -> Gonzaga -> Miami -> SDSU
A very good mid-majorish strength of schedule, just not a lot of future NBA talent outside of the Arkansas kids
Looks pretty normal to me I guess.
The other very top teams blew it, but that's 5 straight wins by double digits over top ~20 teams.
Obviously not as impressive as a '21 Baylor run, but it looks tougher than Kansas had last season. Likely a bit easier than '19 Virginia.
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