2021 NBA Draft

[bondom34]

Wanted to post this too, someone posted to reddit and SB nation already but a google doc for shooting stats:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSOr7lHOzgtTQ9ggHLb9NSeJJkWSH49K4H9Hc7NWcV-7USziTUVN9VUPtDy9zG_YwU2hz62b6_Q5nLk/pubhtml

And to be clear earlier was saying where I've seen Boston on boards and around where I'd maybe feel OK taking him (for another high potential guy w/ bad numbers I was low on McDaniels last year too). Just don't see guys turn it around that hard, not trying to trash the guy (or any of these players) but wouldn't feel great with him any higher I don't think.

[DCasey91]

Presti has a good eye for talent (Theo at 34 and Hayes at 7 should have been switched around). By all reports coming he was the best euro pg prospect for quite sometime (I mean he was kept hidden away at times and groomed by Tony Parker).

Absolute bargain and a half

There’s always going to be one every year, I wonder who it’s going to be this year? (Tre Mann possibly?).

No disrespect to a player like Kispert but that’s the problem with scouts not being able to identify true prospect value.

Say for example Filip goes like 38ish watch him have a top 15ish player career in this draft.

[EvanZ]

There’s always going to be one every year, I wonder who it’s going to be this year? (Tre Mann possibly?).

Mathurin if he comes out. Josh Cristopher ranked too low.

[Sea2003]

Presti has a good eye for talent (Theo at 34 and Hayes at 7 should have been switched around). By all reports coming he was the best euro pg prospect for quite sometime (I mean he was kept hidden away at times and groomed by Tony Parker).

Absolute bargain and a half

There’s always going to be one every year, I wonder who it’s going to be this year? (Tre Mann possibly?).

No disrespect to a player like Kispert but that’s the problem with scouts not being able to identify true prospect value.

Say for example Filip goes like 38ish watch him have a top 15ish player career in this draft.

Boston or Mathurin would be my guess.

[Mickey8]

been looking more and more into Koprivica, honestly surprised he hasn't gotten any draft talk to this point, seems like he's more draftable than some of the other bigs being talked about, dude's mobile, good athlete, decent rim protector, knows how to set screens and roll, good at a lot of the nuances in terms of being a modern big...i'd take a hard look him late in the 2nd if I am team looking for a 7 footer that get set screens and roll while providing some rim protection.

He should have gone to Europe year before like Petrusev did to work on his offensive game, the kid has the skills but he might go un drafted , he is unpolished player , should have waited one more year working on his game .

Watch on YouTube

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The fast break on 4:51 is very impressive for 7"1 center, the ball handling and good speed with the ball in his hands.

[clyde21]

yea, he's really light footed for his size, surprisingly mobile and bouncy, i was impressed with how he defended in space too, not elite, but I don't think he's a huge liability there either in comparison to the average 7 footer, love how willing he is as a screener/roler.

but yea, very unpolished skill wise, offensively kind of just a dunk/put-back guy at this point with no real repertoire...but I am intrigued by overall package. i think there is something worth developing there.

[karkinos]

with the draft this deep i think bj will have to really impress scouts at workouts and show that he has made progress to correct his flaws in his first year to convince someone to take him in the lottery imo. love his hs game but he never really meshed in cal's system, and to be fair, not everyone is a match for cal's style either. cal actually runs a very conservative style of basketball (ex: watch tapes of herro/washington/johnson) that doesn't match well with the modern game. people were confused on the polarizing takes on herro but it's easy to see how that system masked some of the skills herro honed in high school.

bj boston's draft stock will slip but i have confidence he will do well enough in the workouts to keep him in the first round.

[MiranyChauhan]

Strong draft for Guards/Wings, I'd rate Jalen Suggs to go #1 overall , Green, and Mobley. Anyone hear a sleeper from the Israeli league SF Mayank Mistry, trying to find videos of him.

[Catchall]

Presti has a good eye for talent (Theo at 34 and Hayes at 7 should have been switched around). By all reports coming he was the best euro pg prospect for quite sometime (I mean he was kept hidden away at times and groomed by Tony Parker).

Absolute bargain and a half

There’s always going to be one every year, I wonder who it’s going to be this year? (Tre Mann possibly?).

No disrespect to a player like Kispert but that’s the problem with scouts not being able to identify true prospect value.

Say for example Filip goes like 38ish watch him have a top 15ish player career in this draft.

BJ Boston is pretty polarizing, but is really intriguing if he's really over 6'6". He just needs to add strength, mature in general and focus on playing a complementary role.
If Petrusev hits, he could be something like a rangier Sabonis.
Marvin Bagley has the tools to be a 2-way rotational wing.
If Mathurin can develop a more off-the-dribble, in-between game, he's really interesting.
I'm intrigued by Isaiah Todd as something of a lesser version of MPJ. If he gains strength and confidence defensively, there's a lot to work with.

There are a ton of guards in this draft, so some have to drop--Dosunmu, Christopher, Mann, Hyland, etc.

[DCasey91]

Presti has a good eye for talent (Theo at 34 and Hayes at 7 should have been switched around). By all reports coming he was the best euro pg prospect for quite sometime (I mean he was kept hidden away at times and groomed by Tony Parker).

Absolute bargain and a half

There’s always going to be one every year, I wonder who it’s going to be this year? (Tre Mann possibly?).

No disrespect to a player like Kispert but that’s the problem with scouts not being able to identify true prospect value.

Say for example Filip goes like 38ish watch him have a top 15ish player career in this draft.

BJ Boston is pretty polarizing, but is really intriguing if he's really over 6'6". He just needs to add strength, mature in general and focus on playing a complementary role.
If Petrusev hits, he could be something like a rangier Sabonis.
Marvin Bagley has the tools to be a 2-way rotational wing.
If Mathurin can develop a more off-the-dribble, in-between game, he's really interesting.
I'm intrigued by Isaiah Todd as something of a lesser version of MPJ. If he gains strength and confidence defensively, there's a lot to work with.

There are a ton of guards in this draft, so some have to drop--Dosunmu, Christopher, Mann, Hyland, etc.

Yeah Todd at ESPN mock at 50 is surely a typo, height with a pretty looking shooting jumpshot shouldn’t go that low. I’m already sold on FIlip at any position outside the top 20 (I reckon he’ll have a top 15 player value all up) he’s just way too solid fundamentally with range now. Pre all star Vucevic sort of deal. He’s that player that looks like having a long career in the NBA.

I like Mann the most outside of the top 10 for guards. Once again he’s very polished from the year before so it means for me he’s highly coachable and learns and applies as to what he has to improve on, very good base to work from.

I am on the other side of fence with BJ, players that are wet between the ears the improvement essentially always comes from the individual anyway, has the tools though.

There’s always value in the draft with players getting picked too high/too low.

I’m watching OKC, Raptors, and the Lakers from late first onwards (Nuggets as well). They seem to make the logical choices in the draft when a player should have gone higher/get a player that sticks. Head and shoulders above for me at talent evaluation.

[MotownMadness]

BJ will probably drop to the McDaniels tier of the draft in the end of the 1st. You can see the potential in theory but they struggle to do it on the court.

[NYG]

Just something I found interesting... 7th and 8th worst records seems to be a sweet spot for the new draft lottery format.

In both of the previous times since they started the new format, the team with the highest odds of going first overall ended up top four both times, but so did 7th and 8th highest odds of going first overall.

So both in 2019 and 2020, 3 of the 4 teams in the lottery winners (Top 4) were the worst team in the league, the 7th worst team in the league and the 8th worst team in the league.

It'll be interesting if this year the 1st, 7th and 8th all get in again.

[MotownMadness]

Just something I found interesting... 7th and 8th worst records seems to be a sweet spot for the new draft lottery format.

In both of the previous times since they started the new format, the team with the highest odds of going first overall ended up top four both times, but so did 7th and 8th highest odds of going first overall.

So both in 2019 and 2020, 3 of the 4 teams in the lottery winners (Top 4) were the worst team in the league, the 7th worst team in the league and the 8th worst team in the league.

It'll be interesting if this year the 1st, 7th and 8th all get in again.

Yeah it's a hot spot, we have pretty much averaged that 7th or 8th in the draft and always get jumped pushing us back a spot.

Last year we finished 5th and got pushed right back to 7

[SNPA]

Just something I found interesting... 7th and 8th worst records seems to be a sweet spot for the new draft lottery format.

In both of the previous times since they started the new format, the team with the highest odds of going first overall ended up top four both times, but so did 7th and 8th highest odds of going first overall.

So both in 2019 and 2020, 3 of the 4 teams in the lottery winners (Top 4) were the worst team in the league, the 7th worst team in the league and the 8th worst team in the league.

It'll be interesting if this year the 1st, 7th and 8th all get in again.

This.

- Kings fans

[Sea2003]

In almost every draft, there's usually 1-3 players in the top 5 who end up disappointing. In your opinion. which of the top 5 are most likely to end up disappointing?

[pad300]

In almost every draft, there's usually 1-3 players in the top 5 who end up disappointing. In your opinion. which of the top 5 are most likely to end up disappointing?

I'd say Kuminga - I think of all of them, he needs the most skill developement, and if it doesn't happen for whatever reason... He could just be a roleplayer.

After that, it really depends on what you consider a disappointment in this top 5? Would a Jrue Holiday level player be a disappointment, when you think you're getting a franchise #1? I might say Suggs at that point...That's not his ceiling, but IMO, it's the lower end of his expected range.

[CoreyVillains]

Just dropped my Davion Mitchell scouting video. The more I watched of that dude the more I bought into him as a legit top 7 guy in this draft. Regardless of his age, he has such a tailor made NBA game with IMO room to grow and that 6-10 range has a lot of not so sure thing prospects.

Watch on YouTube

[clyde21]

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[EMG518]

Davion Mitchell will be one of the guys that rises in the draft and is a pick that is regretted later.

[EMG518]

I was just watching some highlights. Why is there no love for Isaiah Jackson or Scottie Pippen Jr?

Also this looks like a year where there are alot of guys that bust relative to expectations.