2023 NBA Draft

[WargamesX]

It was an incredibly weak draw tbh.


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Their final 4 opponents were on the weaker side due to earlier upsets, but rounds 2-4 were decent.

Iona -> SMC -> Arkansas -> Gonzaga -> Miami -> SDSU

A very good mid-majorish strength of schedule, just not a lot of future NBA talent outside of the Arkansas kids

I actually think the fact they had Arkansas on the schedule alone makes the run that more impressive. They played a good variety of ok to good teams.

[BostonCouchGM]

I don’t remember it vividly but I’m pretty sure my pre-season mock/Big Board is more different to end of season than any ever before. I don’t think I knew who Miller, Hendricks, Schifino or Hawkins were and had Lively, Ware, Bona and maybe even Bailey in or around the lottery. 1/3 of the way into the season and almost every highly touted one and done was either injured or disappointing. 2/3 in and it was clear the one and dones were overrated and the class strength took a hit but it was somewhat mitigated by returning players stepping up. After the season I’m now at a point where if I’m a team in the lottery and my pick is outside the top 5, I’m trading back or out because the difference between the 6th player and late first is minimal at best. This is definitely the weirdest season of draft prognostication ever. I won’t fault anyone for bad takes as a result

[LofJ]

Is Anthony Black staying in college? It's hard to believe he hasn't declared yet when most of the other guys at Arkansas have already made their decision.

[clyde21]

Is Anthony Black staying in college? It's hard to believe he hasn't declared yet when most of the other guys at Arkansas have already made their decision.

still not word from him or Jordan Walsh

Brazile coming back

Council, Smith, Devo in

[clyde21]

I don’t remember it vividly but I’m pretty sure my pre-season mock/Big Board is more different to end of season than any ever before. I don’t think I knew who Miller, Hendricks, Schifino or Hawkins were and had Lively, Ware, Bona and maybe even Bailey in or around the lottery. 1/3 of the way into the season and almost every highly touted one and done was either injured or disappointing. 2/3 in and it was clear the one and dones were overrated and the class strength took a hit but it was somewhat mitigated by returning players stepping up. After the season I’m now at a point where if I’m a team in the lottery and my pick is outside the top 5, I’m trading back or out because the difference between the 6th player and late first is minimal at best. This is definitely the weirdest season of draft prognostication ever. I won’t fault anyone for bad takes as a result

this was my prelim top 5ish before the season (on page two)

tentative prelim top 5ish

Victor Wembanyama
Scoot Henderson
Dariq Whitehead
Keyontae George
Anthony Black
Brandon Miller
Nick Smith Jr.

really liking the class overall, won't be as good as 21 but clearly ahead of 22 imo.

not sure what you mean by it's completely different...only DWH is no longer in the picture.

the previous year my prelim top 5 was:

Chet Holmgren
Paolo Banchero
Jabari Smith
Kendall Brown
Nikola Jovic

Brown/Jovic were no longer in the pic, others had Yannick Nzosa too up high

[clyde21]

really the two biggest anomalies in this class was Hendricks replacing DWH in the top 7, otherwise it's all familiar names from HS. in 22 no one thought Keegan Murray would go top 5, or even Ivey really tbh

[BostonCouchGM]

I don’t remember it vividly but I’m pretty sure my pre-season mock/Big Board is more different to end of season than any ever before. I don’t think I knew who Miller, Hendricks, Schifino or Hawkins were and had Lively, Ware, Bona and maybe even Bailey in or around the lottery. 1/3 of the way into the season and almost every highly touted one and done was either injured or disappointing. 2/3 in and it was clear the one and dones were overrated and the class strength took a hit but it was somewhat mitigated by returning players stepping up. After the season I’m now at a point where if I’m a team in the lottery and my pick is outside the top 5, I’m trading back or out because the difference between the 6th player and late first is minimal at best. This is definitely the weirdest season of draft prognostication ever. I won’t fault anyone for bad takes as a result

this was my prelim top 5ish before the season (on page two)

tentative prelim top 5ish

Victor Wembanyama
Scoot Henderson
Dariq Whitehead
Keyontae George
Anthony Black
Brandon Miller
Nick Smith Jr.

really liking the class overall, won't be as good as 21 but clearly ahead of 22 imo.

not sure what you mean by it's completely different...only DWH is no longer in the picture.

the previous year my prelim top 5 was:

Chet Holmgren
Paolo Banchero
Jabari Smith
Kendall Brown
Nikola Jovic

Brown/Jovic were no longer in the pic, others had Yannick Nzosa too up high

I didn't even mention you or was necessarily talking about you. But since you volunteered. How about these awful takes?

Mobley over Wembanyama
Whitehead over any 2022 player
2023 being a trash class and 2022 being better

btw, you're way off with those 2022 and 2023 prelims outside of the no-brainers at the top. You're proving my point.

My post was talking about me and MY bad takes. Having Bailey and three centers in the lottery. But I've already said I'm done ranking 4s and 5s highly based on talent and how I would use them since they inevitably don't get utilized correctly if they even see the floor to begin with, so I'm done putting these types high in drafts from now on. See, that's taking an L, learning from mistakes. Not doubling down on bad takes which is embarrassing.

[clyde21]

do you drink a gallon of cocktails every time before you post here?

[EvanZ]

Caleb Love is transferring to Michigan which I imagine give Bufkin a good reason to leave.

[Roger Murdock]

Are there any enticing prospects for the Cavs in R2? We have our own pick + GSWs, so probably picks ~48 and ~54

Needs - 3 point shooting, big men who can replace Lopez.

[Hal14]

Are there any enticing prospects for the Cavs in R2? We have our own pick + GSWs, so probably picks ~48 and ~54

Needs - 3 point shooting, big men who can replace Lopez.

Any big you guys could get in round 2 probably won't be that much better than the big you just drafted in round 2 last year (Isaiah Mobley).

In that range I could see swinging on someone like Leaky Black, Bobi Klintman, Jordan Miller or Keyontae Johnson.

Johnson is pretty similar to the guy you just drafted in the lottery and then had to trade in the Mitchell deal (Agbaji).

[Big J]

do you drink a gallon of cocktails every time before you post here?

This is the kind of thing you say when you get roasted and have no rebuttal.

[Johnny Firpo]

Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?

[clyde21]

Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?

not really, unless maybe you consider Jarace Walker to be that archetype for you eventually, otherwise guys like Lively or Clowney but 10 is way too rich for both at this point

[BostonCouchGM]

Are there any enticing prospects for the Cavs in R2? We have our own pick + GSWs, so probably picks ~48 and ~54

Needs - 3 point shooting, big men who can replace Lopez.

The good thing about needing guys at the peripheral, because you already have studs at most positions, is those types of role players fall to the late 1st and 2nd round every draft.

Some wings you should keep an eye on:

Brandin Podziemsk
Jalen Slawson
Jordan Miller
Jaime Jaquez
Jalen Bridges
Bobi Kintman
Kobe Brown
Terrence Shannon Jr.

Some 4/5

Adama Sanogo
Mouhamed Gueye

[clyde21]

what happened to the prospects links thread?

[WargamesX]

I’m surprised Flipkowski decided to go back to school for another year.

[MAGICian619]

Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?

You literally just described Taylor Hendricks who is being mocked right around #10.

[Johnny Firpo]

Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?

You literally just described Taylor Hendricks who is being mocked right around #10.

I saw his profile, but he is probably picked sooner unfortunately. We'll see if we even keep that pick, let's not get ahead of ourselves. 19% chance to lose it.

[bravor]

Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.