Zach Edey, 7-4

[MemphisX]

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[ItsDanger]

Big J must have retired his account in total shame.

[JRoy]

Good to see the young man killing it.

We’ve all made bad calls.

I don’t like Dukies and may have to eat my words on KK.

[The Moose]

Maybe his second-best game tonight. 21 points, 16 rebounds (9 offensive), 2 assists, and 2 blocks. 9-15 FG, 1-5 3PT, 2-5 FT. All in 27 minutes and a team-high +29.

That's now 14 positive +/- games in a row. Memphis has gone 9-5 in those games, so they haven't won them all. Memphis is +215 over these 14 games, including +160 during Edey's 329 minutes and just +55 in 344 minutes without him. He's been a +/- outlier even in the games they've lost.

He gives you about 20-25 minutes a game of Boban-esque scoring, Steven Adams-esque offensive rebounding, and positive defense.

The best part is there's so much room for improvement. His post-up game has been rough. But he's so big he's just a monster in the dunker's spot finishing plays and crashing the offensive boards.

I don't want to get ahead of myself but I think he's got borderline All-Star potential/ceiling with continued development and the right team/role circumstance. Assuming no serious injuries, he looks like an Adams/Zubac/Valancuinas, 10+ year NBA center. A valuable starter/backup/rotation guy for a long time.

Will be 15+ VORP for his career like I said predraft

He’s only been playing organized basketball for 6 years so the attempts to try to place him on the development arc of a typical 22 year old draft pick are off base IMO.
I expect improvement across all facets of his game

Now his 7th year of organised ball and he has been a dominant force this season, only getting started.
I feel pretty good so far having Edey, Sheppard and Clingan as the top 3 career VORP in this class.
I suspect those 3 + Ware, Sarr & Castle will have some distance on the rest of the class by the end of the season

[76ciology]

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Don’t brag about you’re right yet. You need to wait for 3 more years.

[76ciology]

Grizz should trade Morant for talent to build around Edey.

[peZt]

What exactly suggests that Edey wont be able to stay on the floor in the playoffs? Have you guys actually seen him play or are you just basing your opinion on your subjective prejudice that a 7'4 big guy can not be good on defense? Just comparing him to a 6'9 Kanter who was half a foot smaller and still slower, with the worst defensive instincts of all time disqualifies you from any sort of serious discussion. How many more times do you want to embarrass yourself?

Somebody please go through this thread and expose all the self proclaimed draft experts. The most obvious thing in the world happened: A skilled 7'4 guy who dominated college for 4 years is good at Basketball. Who would have thought. Not the experts apparently

You know people are getting desperate when they post a 3 second Twitter video of a missed dunk, when he had a great game otherwise.

Edey is gonna expose a lot of wannabe scouts and experts in here

Called it lmao. Was so obvious. I mean, who could've thought the skilled 7'4 guy who dominated College for 4 years would turn out good?

I didnt realize this thread had 96 pages People are really dedicated to hating on teenagers

[ReggiesKnicks]

JMac3, I'll copy-paste your Reed post here since it applies as well.

I will bet he doesn't continue shooting this well, I don't really care about his TS at Kentucky Purdue when evaluating him as a pro.
His true shooting last year was 46.5% 62.4%, are we going to ignore that exists and base it all on a 16 8 game sample this year?

[JMAC3]

JMac3, I'll copy-paste your Reed post here since it applies as well.

I will bet he doesn't continue shooting this well, I don't really care about his TS at Kentucky Purdue when evaluating him as a pro.
His true shooting last year was 46.5% 62.4%, are we going to ignore that exists and base it all on a 16 8 game sample this year?

The same does apply, Edey off a career game has a bunch of people running to thread trying to victory lap lol.

Let's ignore he scored 2pts and 5pts in 2 of his last 4 games.

I would say we need more time on Edey, 8 games this year is going to massively affected by a few game here and there. He was solid as a rookie with averages of 9 ppg and 8 rpg. Those numbers at age 22 don't blow the lid of bottle for me.

[ReggiesKnicks]

JMac3, I'll copy-paste your Reed post here since it applies as well.

I will bet he doesn't continue shooting this well, I don't really care about his TS at Kentucky Purdue when evaluating him as a pro.
His true shooting last year was 46.5% 62.4%, are we going to ignore that exists and base it all on a 16 8 game sample this year?

The same does apply, Edey off a career game has a bunch of people running to thread trying to victory lap lol.

Let's ignore he scored 2pts and 5pts in 2 of his last 4 games.

I would say we need more time on Edey, 8 games this year is going to massively affected by a few game here and there. He was solid as a rookie with averages of 9 ppg and 8 rpg. Those numbers at age 22 don't blow the lid of bottle for me.

How many rebounds, blocks and assists did Edey have in those games?

[The Moose]

JMac3, I'll copy-paste your Reed post here since it applies as well.

The same does apply, Edey off a career game has a bunch of people running to thread trying to victory lap lol.

Let's ignore he scored 2pts and 5pts in 2 of his last 4 games.

I would say we need more time on Edey, 8 games this year is going to massively affected by a few game here and there. He was solid as a rookie with averages of 9 ppg and 8 rpg. Those numbers at age 22 don't blow the lid of bottle for me.

How many rebounds, blocks and assists did Edey have in those games?

He left the game after 5 minutes when he had 2 points

Regardless, assessing Edey off his PPG is just entirely the wrong way to go about evaluating his impact (goes for pretty much every player actually, thought we were past that in 2025 tbh). It's how you end up saying Bub Carrington had past Edey last season because he averaged more PPG after the all star break.

I wouldn't expect him to be scoring 30 a night, nor does he need to provide immense value to the grizzlies.
I think ironically the funniest thing about Edey's play this season is that he has the best rim protecting numbers in the entire NBA + 100th percentile DEF on/off swing.

[JMAC3]

The same does apply, Edey off a career game has a bunch of people running to thread trying to victory lap lol.

Let's ignore he scored 2pts and 5pts in 2 of his last 4 games.

I would say we need more time on Edey, 8 games this year is going to massively affected by a few game here and there. He was solid as a rookie with averages of 9 ppg and 8 rpg. Those numbers at age 22 don't blow the lid of bottle for me.

How many rebounds, blocks and assists did Edey have in those games?

He left the game after 5 minutes when he had 2 points

Regardless, assessing Edey off his PPG is just entirely the wrong way to go about evaluating his impact (goes for pretty much every player actually, thought we were past that in 2025 tbh). It's how you end up saying Bub Carrington had past Edey last season because he averaged more PPG after the all star break.

I wouldn't expect him to be scoring 30 a night, nor does he need to provide immense value to the grizzlies.
I think ironically the funniest thing about Edey's play this season is that he has the best rim protecting numbers in the entire NBA + 100th percentile DEF on/off swing.

You are right, let's toss that game out where he played 5 mins. So that gives us a whooping 7 games to evaluate this year. Do people actually want to live/die on this sample size? I would prefer not to.

I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about that. He had two games where his +/- was +39 and +25. Of course the advanced stats are going to love him when 2 games can skew a 7 game sample.

Last year numbers are much more reliable to me at this point, which again is fine as a borderline starting center.

[The Moose]

How many rebounds, blocks and assists did Edey have in those games?

He left the game after 5 minutes when he had 2 points

Regardless, assessing Edey off his PPG is just entirely the wrong way to go about evaluating his impact (goes for pretty much every player actually, thought we were past that in 2025 tbh). It's how you end up saying Bub Carrington had past Edey last season because he averaged more PPG after the all star break.

I wouldn't expect him to be scoring 30 a night, nor does he need to provide immense value to the grizzlies.
I think ironically the funniest thing about Edey's play this season is that he has the best rim protecting numbers in the entire NBA + 100th percentile DEF on/off swing.

You are right, let's toss that game out where he played 5 mins. So that gives us a whooping 7 games to evaluate this year. Do people actually want to live/die on this sample size? I would prefer not to.

I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about that. He had two games where his +/- was +39 and +25. Of course the advanced stats are going to love him when 2 games can skew a 7 game sample.

Last year numbers are much more reliable to me at this point, which again is fine as a borderline starting center.

Just to clarify, do you think he's been an elite impact player this season but the sample size is too small to draw firm conclusions, or that he hasn't been that good at all this year - and he's just had 2 good games that skewed a small sample to look elite?
I think the former is definitely understandable, the latter just isn't correct.

Also just for future reference, when does the sample size of this season start to matter? If he's still in the 90th+ percentile for impact metrics say, 25 game in, does that matter at all?

[JMAC3]

He left the game after 5 minutes when he had 2 points

Regardless, assessing Edey off his PPG is just entirely the wrong way to go about evaluating his impact (goes for pretty much every player actually, thought we were past that in 2025 tbh). It's how you end up saying Bub Carrington had past Edey last season because he averaged more PPG after the all star break.

I wouldn't expect him to be scoring 30 a night, nor does he need to provide immense value to the grizzlies.
I think ironically the funniest thing about Edey's play this season is that he has the best rim protecting numbers in the entire NBA + 100th percentile DEF on/off swing.

You are right, let's toss that game out where he played 5 mins. So that gives us a whooping 7 games to evaluate this year. Do people actually want to live/die on this sample size? I would prefer not to.

I don't understand what is so difficult to understand about that. He had two games where his +/- was +39 and +25. Of course the advanced stats are going to love him when 2 games can skew a 7 game sample.

Last year numbers are much more reliable to me at this point, which again is fine as a borderline starting center.

Just to clarify, do you think he's been an elite impact player this season but the sample size is too small to draw firm conclusions, or that he hasn't been that good at all this year - and he's just had 2 good games that skewed a small sample to look elite?
I think the former is definitely understandable, the latter just isn't correct.

Also just for future reference, when does the sample size of this season start to matter? If he's still in the 90th+ percentile for impact metrics say, 25 game in, does that matter at all?

Yeah believe it or not but I think the data is more reliable if it occurs over 25 game instead of 7 games. Didn't realize that was some hot take but guess it is.