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Post#1881 » by CP War Hawks » Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:42 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?


The top two PF prospects likely going top 8, they fit that description. It's a major dropoff on that archetype after Hendrix and Walker. Lively is a pure 5, I'm thinking 7-1 Jarrett Allen but he's a ways off from contributing on consistent level for years.

I'm thinking maybe Kris Murray. A true reach but is ready now and could pan out like Cam Johnson who was initially a reach.

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1882 » by codydaze » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:02 pm

bravor wrote:Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.


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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1883 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:50 am

bravor wrote:Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.


that certainly hurts what was headed towards being an all-time International class next season. Can't wait to get measurements and see him hopefully at the combine. He's a lottery talent. I thought he was going next year so it hurts that class and helps this year's for sure.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1884 » by CP War Hawks » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:05 am

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bravor wrote:Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.


that certainly hurts what was headed towards being an all-time International class next season. Can't wait to get measurements and see him hopefully at the combine. He's a lottery talent. I thought he was going next year so it hurts that class and helps this year's for sure.


I don't think he gets past the Hawks at 15. Hell OKC could take him at 12. I can see small shades of Wade with this dude depending on his motor and mindset. He's going to kill workouts and the combine testing.

From latest ESPN report:

"Coulibaly, whose parents are from Mali, stands 6-foot-8, 194 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. He is the third youngest player in the ESPN 100 at age 18 but is on a different trajectory from most prospects in this draft, being an almost complete unknown even in France a year ago after a late growth spurt that took him from 5-11 as a 16-year-old. With his elite dimensions, Coulibaly's defensive potential is considerable, as he is regularly tasked with slowing down point guards and shows impressive quickness covering ground and contesting shots on the perimeter. Although not a consistent shooter, Coulibaly grew up a guard and retains many of those perimeter skills."
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1885 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:09 am

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BostonCouchGM wrote:
bravor wrote:Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.


that certainly hurts what was headed towards being an all-time International class next season. Can't wait to get measurements and see him hopefully at the combine. He's a lottery talent. I thought he was going next year so it hurts that class and helps this year's for sure.


I don't think he gets past the Hawks at 15. Hell OKC could take him at 12. I can see small shades of Wade with this dude depending on his motor and mindset. He's going to kill workouts and the combine testing.

From latest ESPN report:

"Coulibaly, whose parents are from Mali, stands 6-foot-8, 194 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. He is the third youngest player in the ESPN 100 at age 18 but is on a different trajectory from most prospects in this draft, being an almost complete unknown even in France a year ago after a late growth spurt that took him from 5-11 as a 16-year-old. With his elite dimensions, Coulibaly's defensive potential is considerable, as he is regularly tasked with slowing down point guards and shows impressive quickness covering ground and contesting shots on the perimeter. Although not a consistent shooter, Coulibaly grew up a guard and retains many of those perimeter skills."


i believe he's the fourth youngest actually after GG, DWH and Clowney
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Post#1886 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:10 am

the players that haven't turned 19 yet in this class:

GG Jackson
Dariq Whitehead
Noah Clowney
Bilal Coulibaly
James Nnaji
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Post#1887 » by The-Power » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:45 am

clyde21 wrote:the players that haven't turned 19 yet in this class:

GG Jackson
Dariq Whitehead
Noah Clowney
Bilal Coulibaly
James Nnaji

Cam Whitmore. Also Rayan Rupert.
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Post#1888 » by LofJ » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:30 pm

I didn't know Whitehead was so young. Combine that with having to recover from a fractured foot at the beginning of the season and it's no wonder he had a slow start. If he's fully recovered I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots up draft boards and gets taken in the lottery.
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Post#1889 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:25 pm

All these players have declared:

Player D.O.B.
GG Jackson 12/17/2004
James Nnaji 8/14/2004
Dariq Whitehead 8/1/2004
Bilal Coulibaly 7/26/2004
Noah Clowney 7/14/2004
Cam Whitmore 7/8/2004
Eli N’Diaye 6/26/2004
Rayan Rupert 5/31/2004
Nick Smith Jr 4/18/2004
Sidy Cissoko 4/2/2004
Jordan Walsh 3/3/2004
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Post#1890 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 4:01 pm

LofJ wrote:I didn't know Whitehead was so young. Combine that with having to recover from a fractured foot at the beginning of the season and it's no wonder he had a slow start. If he's fully recovered I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots up draft boards and gets taken in the lottery.

Yup. Health is the key. Clearly he didn't have the mobility or explosiveness at Duke that he had at Montverde. If he can show in workouts that his foot is 100% and he's got the mobility/explosiveness back, he could certainly end up going lottery.
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Post#1891 » by EMG518 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:33 pm

Hal14 wrote:All these players have declared:

Player D.O.B.
GG Jackson 12/17/2004
James Nnaji 8/14/2004
Dariq Whitehead 8/1/2004
Bilal Coulibaly 7/26/2004
Noah Clowney 7/14/2004
Cam Whitmore 7/8/2004
Eli N’Diaye 6/26/2004
Rayan Rupert 5/31/2004
Nick Smith Jr 4/18/2004
Sidy Cissoko 4/2/2004
Jordan Walsh 3/3/2004



Oh nice, Coulibaly declared
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1892 » by Hal14 » Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:35 pm

EMG518 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:All these players have declared:

Player D.O.B.
GG Jackson 12/17/2004
James Nnaji 8/14/2004
Dariq Whitehead 8/1/2004
Bilal Coulibaly 7/26/2004
Noah Clowney 7/14/2004
Cam Whitmore 7/8/2004
Eli N’Diaye 6/26/2004
Rayan Rupert 5/31/2004
Nick Smith Jr 4/18/2004
Sidy Cissoko 4/2/2004
Jordan Walsh 3/3/2004



Oh nice, Coulibaly declared

he did today, yes
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1893 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:54 am

both french wings Rupert and Coulibaly are great physical profile types, I wouldn't be surprised if both go 20 after workouts/measurements.

France is just putting out some crazy talent right now in general -


this class: Vic, Rupert, Coulibaly, Cissoko

next year: Risacher, Sarr, Fibleuil, Dadiet
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Post#1894 » by Hal14 » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:16 am

clyde21 wrote:both french wings Rupert and Coulibaly are great physical profile types, I wouldn't be surprised if both go 20 after workouts/measurements.

France is just putting out some crazy talent right now in general -


this class: Vic, Rupert, Coulibaly, Cissoko

next year: Risacher, Sarr, Fibleuil, Dadiet

Yeah. France has been crushing it these past few years. Got the silver medal at the olympics a couple years ago, giving the US a run for their money.

last year had kamagate, Diabate, besson and Dieng get drafted.

This year will make it 2 years in a row with 4 french guys getting drafted. crazy.

Those kids are getting some good training.
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Post#1895 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:39 am

LofJ wrote:I didn't know Whitehead was so young. Combine that with having to recover from a fractured foot at the beginning of the season and it's no wonder he had a slow start. If he's fully recovered I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots up draft boards and gets taken in the lottery.


lottery is virtually guaranteed in this class. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes before Whitmore, Walker and Hendricks. Not saying he will but it wouldn't surprise me. He should be completely over his injury by now and really ramping things up. If he shows more explosion in workouts he'll be solidly in the top half of the lottery. He may not have deserved the pre-season hype but he's still a prototypical SG in today's game and that's imho the NBA's shallowest position. Everyone needs a guy who can be a 3 and D.
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Post#1896 » by BlazersBroncos » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:24 pm

Whitehead reminds me of a SG version of AJ Griffin. Underperforms as a freshman, NBA ready frame, undeniable if mechanical athleticism. I wasnt buying AJ's shot but it has translated, think Whitehead will be similar.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1897 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:13 pm

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bravor wrote:Well, i was wrong about Coulibaly. He confirmed in an itw with Givony on Espn that he will declare for the 2023 draft. I think it's really early but the financial gap is huge for a prospect in our country or in the big league.
Really curious to see where he will land (from position to franchise). But imo he is a coach dream as role player.


that certainly hurts what was headed towards being an all-time International class next season. Can't wait to get measurements and see him hopefully at the combine. He's a lottery talent. I thought he was going next year so it hurts that class and helps this year's for sure.


I don't think he gets past the Hawks at 15. Hell OKC could take him at 12. I can see small shades of Wade with this dude depending on his motor and mindset. He's going to kill workouts and the combine testing.

From latest ESPN report:

"Coulibaly, whose parents are from Mali, stands 6-foot-8, 194 pounds with a 7-foot-2 wingspan. He is the third youngest player in the ESPN 100 at age 18 but is on a different trajectory from most prospects in this draft, being an almost complete unknown even in France a year ago after a late growth spurt that took him from 5-11 as a 16-year-old. With his elite dimensions, Coulibaly's defensive potential is considerable, as he is regularly tasked with slowing down point guards and shows impressive quickness covering ground and contesting shots on the perimeter. Although not a consistent shooter, Coulibaly grew up a guard and retains many of those perimeter skills."


I think one of OKC or TOR takes him in the lottery --- he's pretty much the prototype for each franchise.
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Post#1898 » by babyjax13 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:44 am

How high could Cason Wallace go? I absolutely love him but it's hard to see a rise past 8 or so.
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Post#1899 » by Hal14 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:14 pm

babyjax13 wrote:How high could Cason Wallace go? I absolutely love him but it's hard to see a rise past 8 or so.

Hard to say. There's certainly some similarities to Jalen Suggs, who went 4th. Most mocks seem to have him in the 7-14 range..
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#1900 » by Jadoogar » Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:19 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Johnny Firpo wrote:Sooo, if the Mavs keep their pick, any defensive PF/C prospect for us around 10? Rangy guy who can switch and cover a lot of ground while also defending the rim? Any of those guys around in that range?


not really, unless maybe you consider Jarace Walker to be that archetype for you eventually, otherwise guys like Lively or Clowney but 10 is way too rich for both at this point

What about Taylor Hendricks? He kind of fits that mold, not necessarily a center but could play small ball 5 in a pinch.

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