2020 NBA Draft

[No-Man]

Edwards def used his strength on both ends in college, and length, also disagree on Howard's handle

I think Howard more likely than not ends up in Europe, but he can carve a role as a specialist in the league, but he is strictly a shooter

[GameBredAPBT]

What’s the low down on this Wiseman kid? Is he really that much better of a prospect than, say, Wendell Carter? Where does he fit in in the contemporary league? Seems like hasan whiteside 2.0...

[No-Man]

What’s the low down on this Wiseman kid? Is he really that much better of a prospect than, say, Wendell Carter? Where does he fit in in the contemporary league? Seems like hasan whiteside 2.0...

He is pretty much Hassan 2.0, different concerns (not a bad guy but more of a low IQ dude with a meh motor than just annoying and lazy like Whiteside) and more developed physically at the same age, Hassan was wide but a bit skinny and Wiseman is well-built already, but that's kinda who he is

Maybe he could do a bit more on offense in time, but dunno if to the degree that you'd want him doing that in a good team really, and he projects worse on D than peak Whiteside imo, less long, worse timing

[BlazersBroncos]

Tiny sample but 0.3 APG on near 30% usage for Wiseman is pretty scary.

[Marcus]

Tiny sample but 0.3 APG on near 30% usage for Wiseman is pretty scary.

Scary why? I don't know if i'm drafting Wiseman to run offense through and for playmaking.

[EvanZ]

Tiny sample but 0.3 APG on near 30% usage for Wiseman is pretty scary.

Scary why? I don't know if i'm drafting Wiseman to run offense through and for playmaking.

I know you're not lol.

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[No-Man]

Maledon is def good, has real flare, poise, body control and he is big, good shooter, can pass, he is just smoother than athletic and very trash at picking his spots and using his tools on defense at the moment, although I'd argue there is hope there

I think he is a top20 guy, not sure if higher

[realEAST]

Maledon is def good, has real flare, poise, body control and he is big, good shooter, can pass, he is just smoother than athletic and very trash at picking his spots and using his tools on defense at the moment, although I'd argue there is hope there

I think he is a top20 guy, not sure if higher

How would you compare him against J. Ayayi? I know they are playing in two different competitions which makes it a bit harder, but who do you think translates to NBA better? I think they have kind of similar skillsets - not overly athletic, but big and smooth athletes; pretty good playmakers and still streaky shooters; not sure if Ayayi is slightly better defensively, but Maledon seem a bit more dynamic on offense - but play differently.

Anybody else feel free to chip in too
Thx.

[No-Man]

Maledon is def good, has real flare, poise, body control and he is big, good shooter, can pass, he is just smoother than athletic and very trash at picking his spots and using his tools on defense at the moment, although I'd argue there is hope there

I think he is a top20 guy, not sure if higher

How would you compare him against J. Ayayi? I know they are playing in two different competitions which makes it a bit harder, but who do you think translates to NBA better? I think they have kind of similar skillsets - not overly athletic, but big and smooth athletes; pretty good playmakers and still streaky shooters; not sure if Ayayi is slightly better defensively, but Maledon seem a bit more dynamic on offense - but play differently.

Anybody else feel free to chip in too
Thx.

Ayayi is not a PG, he plays with more motor and force, better athlete horizontally, both are meh vertically but Ayayi has a better 1st step, but not even close to the same level of passing, poise and ability to manipulate defenses, Maledon is good at that, plus way younger too

Maledon is the better shooter too, I'd def take Maledon over Ayayi, I don't think their games are all that similar outside of similar size and athleticism, both frenchies

[realEAST]

Maledon is def good, has real flare, poise, body control and he is big, good shooter, can pass, he is just smoother than athletic and very trash at picking his spots and using his tools on defense at the moment, although I'd argue there is hope there

I think he is a top20 guy, not sure if higher

How would you compare him against J. Ayayi? I know they are playing in two different competitions which makes it a bit harder, but who do you think translates to NBA better? I think they have kind of similar skillsets - not overly athletic, but big and smooth athletes; pretty good playmakers and still streaky shooters; not sure if Ayayi is slightly better defensively, but Maledon seem a bit more dynamic on offense - but play differently.

Anybody else feel free to chip in too
Thx.

Ayayi is not a PG, he plays with more motor and force, better athlete horizontally, both are meh vertically but Ayayi has a better 1st step, but not even close to the same level of passing, poise and ability to manipulate defenses, Maledon is good at that, plus way younger too

Maledon is the better shooter too, I'd def take Maledon over Ayayi, I don't think their games are all that similar outside of similar size and athleticism, both frenchies

I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of Maledon, few Euroleague games I tuned into were during his bad stretch, so he didn't play much and it wasn't impressive. I really liked him prior to season though, so I am glad to see him slowly bouncing back.

[bravor]

Ayayi can carry his team (he proved it with our U19 team) as he has already a midrange game and while he is still so so at the 3, he is not a liability. His biggest issue for me being his lack of agressivity on the drive (and his dribble) as he does not get a lot of ft's.
But he plays on both ends unlike Maledon.
He lacks consistency (like many of our prospects) and probably some true pg skills (like controlling the pace, being reliable running the pnr) but he has the mentality to fix part (if not all) of his weaknesses. And he is pretty good rebounder for his size/position.
He proved he could be clutch with our nt (and sometimes with the Zags) so i dont see why it could not translate in the nba.

As for Maledon, for me he will never be a creative pg, more a score first pg (in transition where he is the best, or from the pnr). And what he gives up on the other end is still way too much especially for a prospect who has been probably monitored by his agency/scouts about his weaknesses.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Why is Tillie so low on mocks? You'd think that a stretch-four would be highly coveted in the NBA draft.

[clyde21]

Why is Tillie so low on mocks? You'd think that a stretch-four would be highly coveted in the NBA draft.

i like Tillie but he's old and can barely stay on the court already

[No-Man]

Tillie is awesome but he breaks down all the time and has already lost athleticism and quicks from his frosh year due to that, his family is full of injured people too

[BlazersBroncos]

Despite his injury woes, I think Tillie would be a great pick for a winning team in the late 1st round. He is a worth gamble at that point. Projects really well as a quality role player. Sorta a PF version of Maxi Kleber.

[No-Man]

I think Tillie is worth a pick at some point too, not sure 1st is where it is at though, I'd say mid-2nd he is too risky

[azcatz11]

Man anyone see Stanley's dunk?

[clyde21]

Yves Pons has developed into a legit draftable prospect now