2018 NBA Draft

[thamadkant]

This might sound crazy, but I think the Bucks would be smart to trade Jabari Parker for a top 5 pick in this draft. If they can get Jackson or Bamba it would really help them. And they could also probably get more out of it. Jabari is really good and can get better, but hes been injured almost every year and he doesn’t fit next to Giannis Antetokounmpo because neither of them can shoot threes and both are ball-dominant. I also think this is the perfect time to trade for him because you don’t really know what you’re going to get. He could play again next year and get injured because it seems to be tradition for him and any Simeon player.

I see no way Jabari is worth a top 5 pick.

Yup.

Heck Wiggins is not worth a top 5 pick these days.


Top 5 = Higher chance to draft a star.



Had Jabari Parker not gotten injured and was a consistent 17ppg-20ppg all round offense machine, with 7-8 rpg and acceptable mid range and 3pt abilities, I can see him being worth getting Pick 4-5

[The-Power]

This might sound crazy, but I think the Bucks would be smart to trade Jabari Parker for a top 5 pick in this draft. If they can get Jackson or Bamba it would really help them. And they could also probably get more out of it. Jabari is really good and can get better, but hes been injured almost every year and he doesn’t fit next to Giannis Antetokounmpo because neither of them can shoot threes and both are ball-dominant. I also think this is the perfect time to trade for him because you don’t really know what you’re going to get. He could play again next year and get injured because it seems to be tradition for him and any Simeon player.

I see no way Jabari is worth a top 5 pick.

Yup.

Heck Wiggins is not worth a top 5 pick these days.


Top 5 = Higher chance to draft a star.



Had Jabari Parker not gotten injured and was a consistent 17ppg-20ppg all round offense machine, with 7-8 rpg and acceptable mid range and 3pt abilities, I can see him being worth getting Pick 4-5

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

[thamadkant]

I see no way Jabari is worth a top 5 pick.

Yup.

Heck Wiggins is not worth a top 5 pick these days.


Top 5 = Higher chance to draft a star.



Had Jabari Parker not gotten injured and was a consistent 17ppg-20ppg all round offense machine, with 7-8 rpg and acceptable mid range and 3pt abilities, I can see him being worth getting Pick 4-5

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

[The-Power]

Yup.

Heck Wiggins is not worth a top 5 pick these days.


Top 5 = Higher chance to draft a star.



Had Jabari Parker not gotten injured and was a consistent 17ppg-20ppg all round offense machine, with 7-8 rpg and acceptable mid range and 3pt abilities, I can see him being worth getting Pick 4-5

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Whether he would be worth the max (important distinction: Wiggins is also maxed but not worth it) or not had he not injured himself is besides the point, though. Current Parker is not close to being worth a top 5 pick in this situation, I think we can all agree on that. Now, if he gets signed at a huge discount this could very well be different.

[GameBredAPBT]

Yup.

Heck Wiggins is not worth a top 5 pick these days.


Top 5 = Higher chance to draft a star.



Had Jabari Parker not gotten injured and was a consistent 17ppg-20ppg all round offense machine, with 7-8 rpg and acceptable mid range and 3pt abilities, I can see him being worth getting Pick 4-5

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

[nolang1]

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

He would've been a poor man's Carmelo and still not worth a top 5 pick in a trade. Healthy or not, he's never shown any indication (even in college) of being anything but a liability on defense and has poor shot selection to boot.

Andre Drummond is just 1.5 years older than Parker and a 2x All-Star with no major injuries, and if Van Gundy could've traded him for a top 5 pick in this draft there's no way Drummond would still be a Piston.

[thamadkant]

In order to be worth a top 5 pick at this point of the career, you would have to believe that the player in question is well-worth being locked up with a max contract. Parker certainly isn't that player.

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

Lol

You're arguing something that is obvious... Potential.

If Wiggins got that contract... Harrison Barnes got his etc. Parker who was putting up nice numbers before he went out on his ACL in his rookie year.

Then came back and was putting up 20ppg 7rpg as a 21 year old before getting injured again.

To come back and score 20ppg post ACL tear is an achievement. As a 22 year old.


And poor Melo comparison is lazy. I think he was better off the ball slightly and had that mean above rim finish.

[nolang1]

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

Lol

You're arguing something that is obvious... Potential.

If Wiggins got that contract... Harrison Barnes got his etc. Parker who was putting up nice numbers before he went out on his ACL in his rookie year.

Wiggins and Barnes on big contracts wouldn't get anything close to a top 5 pick either. At best you could trade them for matching salary that expires sooner.

[GameBredAPBT]

A healthy Parker would be Maxed already... its his 2x ACL tears and wasted development years thats ruined his worth.

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

He would've been a poor man's Carmelo and still not worth a top 5 pick in a trade. Healthy or not, he's never shown any indication (even in college) of being anything but a liability on defense and has poor shot selection to boot.

Andre Drummond is just 1.5 years older than Parker and a 2x All-Star with no major injuries, and if Van Gundy could've traded him for a top 5 pick in this draft there's no way Drummond would still be a Piston.

How do you know what he would've been? He never played

[nolang1]

Lol based upon what exactly? A "healthy parker" lol. There is no healthy parker. The 2 acl tears are the player he is. Who knows how he would have developed otherwise

He would've been a poor man's Carmelo and still not worth a top 5 pick in a trade. Healthy or not, he's never shown any indication (even in college) of being anything but a liability on defense and has poor shot selection to boot.

Andre Drummond is just 1.5 years older than Parker and a 2x All-Star with no major injuries, and if Van Gundy could've traded him for a top 5 pick in this draft there's no way Drummond would still be a Piston.

How do you know what he would've been? He never played

Because I watched him in high school and college and don't just assume that all players will get better at at some magical freakish rate even when they're healthy. Defense is a huge, huge weakness of Parker's that goes beyond athleticism, and he's never even approached not being a liability, much less being competent on that end. By DRPM he's been the 7th-worst PF in the league this year, 3rd-worst last year, 2nd-worst the year before, and 3rd-worst as a rookie.

Anyhow this is a thread about the 2018 NBA draft, not the Jabari Parker stan hour. What's relevant is that the only kinds of players teams would even consider trading top-five pick in this draft for would be established stars on long-term contracts. Kevin Love wouldn't even be close to being worth a top-five pick, and Parker is clearly a long, long way from that.

[Catchall]

I'm still waiting for Issac Bonga to come out of a German forest at 6'10" with a 7'2" wingspan, pulling cross-overs and drilling 3s. Wishful thinking, probably...

[King Ken]

This might sound crazy, but I think the Bucks would be smart to trade Jabari Parker for a top 5 pick in this draft. If they can get Jackson or Bamba it would really help them. And they could also probably get more out of it. Jabari is really good and can get better, but hes been injured almost every year and he doesn’t fit next to Giannis Antetokounmpo because neither of them can shoot threes and both are ball-dominant. I also think this is the perfect time to trade for him because you don’t really know what you’re going to get. He could play again next year and get injured because it seems to be tradition for him and any Simeon player.

They can't trade Jabari for anyone as he's a RFA.

[Catchall]

What's the latest on Billy Preston?

[smokeybandit]

Tony Carr declared for the draft with no intention to return to school

[MachoMan]

As expected, Michigan State's Jaren Jackson Jr. to enter NBA draft.

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[EvanZ]

I created a poll for the 2018 Draft. You have to signup to participate, but there are no ads or anything, and I'm not using your personal data for anything. Just a basketball fan here.

https://catapolt.co/polls/fef3f300-7dfd-4511-86cb-a18430cb952f/rank-the-2018-nba-draft-prospects

[Ruzious]

Can't wait to watch Spellman vs Wagner tonight, because I think it's a great opportunity for both to increase their value. I know - 1 game shouldn't make a difference, but I think the reality is - this game can for him and - to a lesser extent - can help Wagner. I hadn't thought much about Spellman coming out this year, but he's becoming a dynamic player at both ends, and you can see his confidence growing each game. This game will show if he's at the point where the important people say he's ready.

[Ruzious]

As expected, Michigan State's Jaren Jackson Jr. to enter NBA draft.

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This is good news, because I think it would have been crazy for him to go back. There's a small chance he could go #1 in this draft, and I thought coach was a little too tough on him at times - and not helpful to his development.

[EvanZ]

Can't wait to watch Spellman vs Wagner tonight, because I think it's a great opportunity for both to increase their value. I know - 1 game shouldn't make a difference, but I think the reality is - this game can for him and - to a lesser extent - can help Wagner. I hadn't thought much about Spellman coming out this year, but he's becoming a dynamic player at both ends, and you can see his confidence growing each game. This game will show if he's at the point where the important people say he's ready.

Thought the same thing myself. I love Spellman.

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[RaptorsLife]

SGA is just a younger more athletic delon Wright not just he's worth a lotto pick. but floor is very high