Bismack Biyombo

sergiio_88 · Post #21 » by **sergiio_88** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:34 pm

Yes, Biyombo has a clause in his contract, but he has contract with the Fuenlabrada's second team in EBA (Spanish 4th division)
So he can go to the friendly match, but the team can make to play with the second team the rest of the season.

If I were him I would not play that game.

ManualRam · Post #22 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:09 pm

sergiio_88 wrote:Yes, Biyombo has a clause in his contract, but he has contract with the Fuenlabrada's second team in EBA (Spanish 4th division)
So he can go to the friendly match, but the team can make to play with the second team the rest of the season.

If I were him I would not play that game.

if they want to lose his defensive presence for the rest of the season over the hoops summit, then that's their loss.
you cant give a player the option to gain some exposure, then threaten him if he chooses to take that option.

karolis1221 · Post #23 » by **karolis1221** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:59 pm

ManualRam wrote:
sergiio_88 wrote:Yes, Biyombo has a clause in his contract, but he has contract with the Fuenlabrada's second team in EBA (Spanish 4th division)
So he can go to the friendly match, but the team can make to play with the second team the rest of the season.

If I were him I would not play that game.

if they want to lose his defensive presence for the rest of the season over the hoops summit, then that's their loss.
you cant give a player the option to gain some exposure, then threaten him if he chooses to take that option.

So you think he did right move here? :lol:

refusing playing with his real club who needs him and going to play some exibition show game

Im sure Nba GMs will keep that in mind about his personality and profesionalism.

ManualRam · Post #24 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:40 pm

karolis1221 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
sergiio_88 wrote:Yes, Biyombo has a clause in his contract, but he has contract with the Fuenlabrada's second team in EBA (Spanish 4th division)
So he can go to the friendly match, but the team can make to play with the second team the rest of the season.

If I were him I would not play that game.

if they want to lose his defensive presence for the rest of the season over the hoops summit, then that's their loss.
you cant give a player the option to gain some exposure, then threaten him if he chooses to take that option.

So you think he did right move here? refusing playing with his real club who needs him and going to play some exibition show game Im sure Nba GMs will keep that in mind about his personality and profesionalism.

yes, if his ultimate goal is to play in the NBA, i have no problem with biyombo taking advantage of an option that HIS TEAM GRANTED HIM.

BULLROCKA · Post #25 » by **BULLROCKA** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:11 pm

UGA Hayes wrote:The future.

Woo congo love, its nice to see more Congolese players getting nba opportunities.

BossHoggin · Post #26 » by **BossHoggin** » Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:38 pm

MUpacersSIC wrote:
sergiio_88 wrote:In my opinion, He hasn't got level to go to the NBA yet. So I think that he should not play the game because they probably have to play in Europe a few years yet.
And the player has more years of contract with the club and has no professional contract yet, which could send him to play with the Fuenlabrada's second team.

Excuse me for my English

No need to apologize, I think everyone understands your point. I certainly couldn't write a post in another language and have it be even remotely decipherable.

Seriously, no need to apologize. If you are humble towards knowing more than one language then more power to you. You make clear sense just your word choice is bad, which is no big deal.

Grits n Gravy · Post #27 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:26 am

holy crap!!
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/201 ... z1Ic8fSTHy

7'7 wingspan!!!!(never seen that long!!)
6'7.75 wo shoes
6'9 with shoes
243lbs (thats pretty dam bulky for someone that long and short)
9'3 standing reach

wow!!! his standing reach is comparable to dwight howard, darko milicic, greg oden and andrew bogut, wow

ManualRam · Post #28 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:40 am

kiwi_adam wrote:holy crap!!
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/201 ... z1Ic8fSTHy

7'7 wingspan!!!!(never seen that long!!)
6'7.75 wo shoes
6'9 with shoes
243lbs (thats pretty dam bulky for someone that long and short)
9'3 standing reach

wow!!! his standing reach is comparable to dwight howard, darko milicic, greg oden and andrew bogut, wow

contrast that with kevin pangos. 6'1 with a 5'11.5 wing span, 7'7 standing reach. thats kinda sad.
kabongo shouldve been on that team, not pangos.

as for biyombo, that's pretty impressive though. i think thats the highest standing reach i've seen from someone that size.

Devilanche · Post #29 » by **Devilanche** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 11:21 am

karolis1221 wrote:
So you think he did right move here? refusing playing with his real club who needs him and going to play some exibition show game Im sure Nba GMs will keep that in mind about his personality and profesionalism.

Depends on his buyout as well. Though given the number of bonehead still in the league, going against his current team to show his potential isn't a negative of any sort. If he was to declare for this season draft that is. At least might raise his draft position a few spot.

Contractually, he's the right, not like he goes missing and just show up.

sergiio_88 · Post #30 » by **sergiio_88** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:11 pm

BossHoggin wrote:
MUpacersSIC wrote:
sergiio_88 wrote:In my opinion, He hasn't got level to go to the NBA yet. So I think that he should not play the game because they probably have to play in Europe a few years yet.
And the player has more years of contract with the club and has no professional contract yet, which could send him to play with the Fuenlabrada's second team.

Excuse me for my English

No need to apologize, I think everyone understands your point. I certainly couldn't write a post in another language and have it be even remotely decipherable.

Seriously, no need to apologize. If you are humble towards knowing more than one language then more power to you. You make clear sense just your word choice is bad, which is no big deal.

Thank you both.
I hope to speak and write better in English in a couple of years.

droponov · Post #31 » by **droponov** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:06 pm

Absolutely the best decision. Fuenlabrada's threats are hollow. Want him to stay? Renegotiate the contract and pay him the salary of the type of player that you don't allow to travel to exhibition games. Can't have it both ways; they knew the moment they signed the contract that he was accepting a smaller salary because those clauses were there.

ThreeYearPlan · Post #32 » by **ThreeYearPlan** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 5:26 pm

It's easy to see why Fuenlabrada was making those threats though, with Biyombo's young age, season in Spain and now his measurements he's pretty much a lock to go top 25

Draft Master J · Post #33 » by **Draft Master J** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:14 pm

Numbers-wise, he's clearly superior to Ibaka coming into the league.

Post #34 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:25 pm

Wing Span: 7'7"
Standing Reach: 9'3"

Holy ****

. This guy is going to be a blocking monster.

ManualRam · Post #35 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:33 pm

Draft Master J wrote:

Numbers-wise, he's clearly superior to Ibaka coming into the league.

sarcasm?
not really.
could mean that biyombo's more aggressive going for blocks than ibaka was at the same stage.
we're all aware of ibaka's shot blocking capabilities now. i highly doubt that those stats mean that biyombo will come in and get 4 blocks a game in his 2nd year.

Post #36 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:43 pm

Hey, is he right or left handed?

Draft Master J · Post #37 » by **Draft Master J** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 8:09 pm

ManualRam wrote:
Draft Master J wrote:

Numbers-wise, he's clearly superior to Ibaka coming into the league.

sarcasm?

not really.
could mean that biyombo's more aggressive going for blocks than ibaka was at the same stage.
we're all aware of ibaka's shot blocking capabilities now. i highly doubt that those stats mean that biyombo will come in and get 4 blocks a game in his 2nd year.

Why would a blatantly truthful statement be sarcasm? Notice I didn't say Biyombo was a better prospect (although he could be), but that he has better numbers coming into the league (assuming he enters the draft).

droponov · Post #38 » by **droponov** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 8:50 pm

His measurements are reminiscent of Romain Sato. He's like the Sato of the big men.

Biyombo is a very smart kid. Hard working. Good background too. Not your typical young african prospect. Really committed to the game. A gym rat. When he was still an u18 player, he used to attend the practices of the pro team during the day and later in the evening he'd voluntarily join the practices of the u18 team to be with his teammates. I think he'll be ready to enter the NBA as a defensive/rebounding/energy specialist off the bench. He's not as polished as Ibaka, doesn't have the jump-shot. And they play lots of zone with him, I'd expect him to struggle a bit defensively. But he plays so hard... he'll catch up in a hurry.

ManualRam · Post #39 » by **ManualRam** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 9:53 pm

Draft Master J wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
Draft Master J wrote:

Numbers-wise, he's clearly superior to Ibaka coming into the league.

sarcasm?

not really.
could mean that biyombo's more aggressive going for blocks than ibaka was at the same stage.
we're all aware of ibaka's shot blocking capabilities now. i highly doubt that those stats mean that biyombo will come in and get 4 blocks a game in his 2nd year.

Why would a blatantly truthful statement be sarcasm? Notice I didn't say Biyombo was a better prospect (although he could be), but that he has better numbers coming into the league (assuming he enters the draft).

how is that blatantly truthful?
all that comparison shows is that they produced similarly at the same stage, with biyombo blocking more shots....which really means nothing in hindsight, because ibaka's already an elite shotblocker in the league. are you saying that biyombo is gonna be MORE than an elite shotblocker???
the differences in any other statistical category are completely negligible. it does not show one being "clearly superior" than the other at the same stage.

Draft Master J · Post #40 » by **Draft Master J** » Tue Apr 5, 2011 10:33 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:
Wing Span: 7'7"
Standing Reach: 9'3"

Holy **** . This guy is going to be a blocking monster.

Yep. If that 7'7" wingspan is legitimate, then he's a bona fide freak of nature. There are only four players in D.X.'s measurement database with a larger wingspan, and they're all seven-footers (in shoes). Elton Brand's measurements were fairly similar; 6'8.25" (barefoot), 7'5.5" wingspan, 9'2" standing-reach.